Eindecker EIII
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I'm sorry Teus...I can't let this go....[&:][&:]
''joy to watch Art''............Can I get a WTH!?
I'm trying to figure out your other hobbies.....Going to the zoo and watching sloths, maybe the fishing channel, ''box turtle'' racing......
As Art once said.............you are truely too kind............
HPA
ORIGINAL: Teus
Still a joy to watch Art [8D]
Your plates leave with tomorrows mail.
Still a joy to watch Art [8D]
Your plates leave with tomorrows mail.
I'm sorry Teus...I can't let this go....[&:][&:]
''joy to watch Art''............Can I get a WTH!?
I'm trying to figure out your other hobbies.....Going to the zoo and watching sloths, maybe the fishing channel, ''box turtle'' racing......
As Art once said.............you are truely too kind............
HPA
.....and by the way, these are for you (whether you deserve them or not)........compliments of Teus . I was going to surprise you the next time out at the field........now I just hope it makes you feel bad for trashing me
Your Friend,
Art [8D]
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RE: Eindecker EIII
ORIGINAL: Horsepoweraviation
Thanks Teus!
Thanks Teus!
Your welcome Paul,
Ehhhhhhh, and don't forget to use BIG nails and Gorilla glue to attach these plates to your cowl after you changed th engine to the DA-150, otherwise you might loose the plates when howling through the air
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Under flight loads the elevator was not very responsive...
Under flight loads the elevator was not very responsive...
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Hey Art and Paul,
Great looking airplanes, When do I get to build one of these.
Wild Bill
Hey Art and Paul,
Great looking airplanes, When do I get to build one of these.
Wild Bill
By the way, my BUSA DR1 will be ready for action this season - looking forward to flying some sorties together!
Cheers,
Art
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Stab Update
Finished sheeting the stab that I already had framed up.
Put lightning holes in center section and sheeted with 3/32" balsa.
Hinged with large Robart point hinges.
This is much stiffer and resists twisting.
Now back to finishing hinging the ailerons and finishing up with the wings.
Wild Bill,
I will be releasing it sometime later this spring. Want to get good flight videos and have all of the bugs worked out first.
I am working hard to have the one that I am working on now finished for a large indoor show and swap shop that we have here in Columbus on March 16th.
Kind of a coming out party.
Larry
Finished sheeting the stab that I already had framed up.
Put lightning holes in center section and sheeted with 3/32" balsa.
Hinged with large Robart point hinges.
This is much stiffer and resists twisting.
Now back to finishing hinging the ailerons and finishing up with the wings.
Wild Bill,
I will be releasing it sometime later this spring. Want to get good flight videos and have all of the bugs worked out first.
I am working hard to have the one that I am working on now finished for a large indoor show and swap shop that we have here in Columbus on March 16th.
Kind of a coming out party.
Larry
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RE: Eindecker EIII
Larry, while that looks like a great "fix" it just doesn't seem like satisfying design solution for a WWI model. Fully sheeted tail surfaces? That's just so...well...WW2. Particularly, for a (light) fabric covered model where all the other structure is readily visible in flight. No PC10 or lozenge to hide such tricks on an EIII. Could you perhaps use CF rod (or tube) for both the stab LE and TE and or cross-bracing between the ribs as seen on the Mick Reeves wing designs?
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RE: Eindecker EIII
Abufletcher,
I know what your saying, but this is made to be a fun scale plane and I may yet still add some cap strips to simulate ribs with the Solartex fabric covering.
The next two projects are going to be competition planes with little or no compromises.
These will be my new "Top Gun" quality models to replace the Super Cub that I have been flying in that event and others.
40% Ryan STA from factory plans. ( Done as YPT-16A at the Air Force Museum)
Half scale Nieuport 17 from the Rosenthal and Hardesty drawings.
Come summer I want to be flying the Eindecker at events, selling Eindecker kits and finishing up the drawings for these two new projects.
Larry
I know what your saying, but this is made to be a fun scale plane and I may yet still add some cap strips to simulate ribs with the Solartex fabric covering.
The next two projects are going to be competition planes with little or no compromises.
These will be my new "Top Gun" quality models to replace the Super Cub that I have been flying in that event and others.
40% Ryan STA from factory plans. ( Done as YPT-16A at the Air Force Museum)
Half scale Nieuport 17 from the Rosenthal and Hardesty drawings.
Come summer I want to be flying the Eindecker at events, selling Eindecker kits and finishing up the drawings for these two new projects.
Larry
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Art and Larry,
I can guarauntee that I will build one of these when it becomes available, I have always loved the Eindecker. Yes me too Art, am looking forward to flying sorties too. I flew last weekend, 1/4 scale Pup with skis on. It was like 12 degrees, wind blowin like 10 mph, windchill like -10 but still fun.
Wild Bill
I can guarauntee that I will build one of these when it becomes available, I have always loved the Eindecker. Yes me too Art, am looking forward to flying sorties too. I flew last weekend, 1/4 scale Pup with skis on. It was like 12 degrees, wind blowin like 10 mph, windchill like -10 but still fun.
Wild Bill
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Bear in mind that if you have used a scale sized stab/elevator (which I believe was the plan) then the elevator response is simply not going to be like what you'd get on a BUSA-style model with its greatly enlarged stab/elevator. Also the elevator response will be even weaker since you don't have a leading edge dipping down as you would on a full-flying elevator........
ORIGINAL: CubCrafter
Under flight loads the elevator was not very responsive...
Under flight loads the elevator was not very responsive...
Elevator response is related to how much of the stab is allocated to the elevator. Yes, a full flying stab is more effective than a conventional elevator, but a coventional stab/elevator will still control pitch - even if the overall size of the stab/elevator is too small.
my two cents worth......
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I will modify my airframe slightly to allow functional wing wires to be attached.
I will also modify my stab to Larry's recommendations or build a new one with these design perameters included reducing the overall weight of the current stab.
This is the fun part of designing/building and then test flying and then ''tweaking'' to get the best overall flight out of the model.
I am looking forward to getting mine airborn!
I will modify my airframe slightly to allow functional wing wires to be attached.
I will also modify my stab to Larry's recommendations or build a new one with these design perameters included reducing the overall weight of the current stab.
This is the fun part of designing/building and then test flying and then ''tweaking'' to get the best overall flight out of the model.
I am looking forward to getting mine airborn!
OK, the mods are underway!
I removed the laminate which was orignally glued to the spars (front & back) in the bays where the wing wires would be attached and in their place epoxied 3/32" aircraft plywood sheer webs. As I stated earlier in the thread, anytime I drill into or through the spars to attach anything, this is the process that I use.
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Spent the weekend working on the right wing panel.
Some small design changes to the aileron and now it is all hinged.
I can remove the screws from the top of the aileron and it is removable.
Used large dubro hinges and they are screwed into the top of the spar with a cap strip over top.
The control horn rib can be glued in place when it is time to cover,
Larry
Some small design changes to the aileron and now it is all hinged.
I can remove the screws from the top of the aileron and it is removable.
Used large dubro hinges and they are screwed into the top of the spar with a cap strip over top.
The control horn rib can be glued in place when it is time to cover,
Larry
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I look forward to this being available as a kit, if it is true to scale outlines, I'd be interested in a plan for full flying surfaces, would be a really neat plane.
I look forward to this being available as a kit, if it is true to scale outlines, I'd be interested in a plan for full flying surfaces, would be a really neat plane.
Whit
You are right! It would be a very interesting plane with wing warping and a full flying stab and rudder.
Here's a shot of my third scale EI from a couple of years ago.....it had wing warping and a full flying tail.
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Here's a shot of my third scale EI from a couple of years ago.....it had wing warping and a full flying tail.
Here's a shot of my third scale EI from a couple of years ago.....it had wing warping and a full flying tail.
Martin
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What's that coming out of the cockpit? Is he going fishing!!!???
Martin
What's that coming out of the cockpit? Is he going fishing!!!???
Martin
Here you go, Art...sans fishing pole, thanks to Photoshop!
Jim
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Art and Larry,
I can guarauntee that I will build one of these when it becomes available, I have always loved the Eindecker. Yes me too Art, am looking forward to flying sorties too. I flew last weekend, 1/4 scale Pup with skis on. It was like 12 degrees, wind blowin like 10 mph, windchill like -10 but still fun.
Wild Bill
Art and Larry,
I can guarauntee that I will build one of these when it becomes available, I have always loved the Eindecker. Yes me too Art, am looking forward to flying sorties too. I flew last weekend, 1/4 scale Pup with skis on. It was like 12 degrees, wind blowin like 10 mph, windchill like -10 but still fun.
Wild Bill
Hey WildBill
All I can think is that you must be a lot younger.........all that cold takes the fun out of it for me.
Art
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I had a couplle of days to fix the suggested adjustments and now that they are done I am anble to do some paint and bling....
HPA
Next test flight this weekend! I will have a Go PRO mounted because we are going to put the Eiii thru its paces!
HPA
Next test flight this weekend! I will have a Go PRO mounted because we are going to put the Eiii thru its paces!