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Old 02-06-2013, 04:36 PM
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Thanks Larry! I was hoping you chime in.......

Well Doc, there's the answer.
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Art,

Did you do that little trick we talked about when adding the top cross piece where the angle starts
to tamper to the rear?

Your fuselage looks like it has less bow in the top longeron than mine did.

Larry

Nope......I thought about it, but I wanted to use all the pieces that were in the kit along with the jigs without any modifications. I think it went together very well. I must have used staighter wood or sumpin'
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Doc,

The way I did the jigs was since I did this all in 3d I was able put a cutting
plane at each upright and then did an intersect with model to get the outside shape of the
fuselage at that point.
Then all I had to do was delete the shape made by the intersect and it left the hole in the cutting plane.

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Hello Larry,

I jumped in late to see what Art's was building this year and did not realize until this evening that the design is your handy work. Very nice, I must say. I look forward to seeing it during the 2013 contest season.

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Old 02-06-2013, 07:48 PM
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Larry and Art,

I am following your build with great anticipation. I was looking into the SR version, but wanted to go as big as possible. Being from the Frozen Tundra (Wisconsin) I am already palnning to build your plane (hopefully) next winter.

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P.S. I know Norman Kaz well, he has been to many of your Dawn Patrols.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:51 PM
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Hey Bob,

I plan on flying this in Fun Scale at the Mint Julip and the NATS.

Will you have your T-34 to enter or will you be judging?

I have been working on this and some other designs all with 3d cad software and laser cutting my own kits.
Really starting to get into this Dawn Patrol flying thing.

I have been collecting lots of documentation on the Nieuport 17 and may do it at half scale for the 2014 Dayton Dawn Patrol.

I have been working with Art some on his half scale Nieuport 11.
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Hi Chris,

I have been very pleased with the response so far about this design and my engineering methods.
This has given me the confidence to proceed with other projects that I have wanted to do for a long time, all "scale" and 1/3 scale or larger.

I can't wait to get one into the air.
The accountant (wife) wants to see kit orders.

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Hi Larry



You can Write me on the list, the build looks pretty good so far.





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Larry, well whatever your story is the jigs for the fuse rear are brilliant, what a great way to assure true building of an area that can be a struggle at times, dont ask if I've ever built a bananna!lol Anyway you make it sound like nothing to it but you thought of it and I've never seen anything like it before.
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Larry and Art,

I am following your build with great anticipation. I was looking into the SR version, but wanted to go as big as possible. Being from the Frozen Tundra (Wisconsin) I am already palnning to build your plane (hopefully) next winter.

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Hey Chris

Any friend of Norm is a friend of mine - I always enjoy visiting with him at the various Dawn Patrol events. Looking forward to meeing you and flying with you sometime. This plane will provide a good mount for any pilot wanting the adventure that a good Dawn Patrol event can provide! You are indeed making a good choice.

Tell Norm and Gloria hi for me!

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Larry and Art,

I am following your build with great anticipation. I was looking into the SR version, but wanted to go as big as possible. Being from the Frozen Tundra (Wisconsin) I am already palnning to build your plane (hopefully) next winter.

Chris923

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Meno. Falls Wis.

P.S. I know Norman Kaz well, he has been to many of your Dawn Patrols.
Hey Chris

Any friend of Norm is a friend of mine - I always enjoy visiting with him at the various Dawn Patrol events. Looking forward to meeing you and flying with you sometime. This plane will provide a good mount for any pilot wanting the adventure that a good Dawn Patrol event can provide! You are indeed making a good choice.

Tell Norm and Gloria hi for me!

Cheers,
Art


Will do Art!
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Working on the hatch........

I threw that last shot in there just for fun
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Wow, that's a beautiful kit.... Awesome looking parts.... Wish I could build that good, I just like to build.....
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She really is lookkong nice Art, I think you have risen to the top.
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Hello Art,

The Eindecker is massive and I am marvelling at the engineering thought that Larry put into his kit. Watching you breath life into this subject is down right fascinating.

Larry, The T-34 is flight ready and about 98% complete. I am thinking of showing it at Toledo and soon after, it will have it's maiden flight. If I don't roll it into a ball then I am planing on competing with it at the Mint Julep and maybe the NATs after that but my bride thinks that I may have a conflict with the family vacation. Unfortunately, my plane is going to end very close to 20 lbs so the whole roll-up-into-a-ball thing is a possibility. In that case it's back to the judges box for me.


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Bob,

Looks like I need a replacement for the Super Cub to compete against your T-34.

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Thank you Larry.

Art, back to you.

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Bob
That was a nice interlude.......your T-34 looks great! You need to stay in the pilot's box for a while with this one........looks like it should static very well.
And flying is why we build 'em, right?
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She really is lookkong nice Art, I think you have risen to the top.
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It's all in the engineering, Doc, that's where the magic is in this project ....... my mojo comes out when we get out to the flying field! That's what it's all about for me!

Striving to get to the top is a good place to be ...........but if you're already there then the only direction is down [X(].
So, if you don't mind .....let's leave me somewhere on the uphill quest [8D]
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Wow, that's a beautiful kit.... Awesome looking parts.... Wish I could build that good, I just like to build.....


one step at a time, coach - mix in a little perseverance [>:] some patience and throw in some glue .......... you're on your way.

if you hit a rough spot [:@] look at your options [:-] and go at it again until you're happy with it

Life is about participation - so get to it!

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Speaking of participation................

Here are a couple of pics with wheels ....leading edge formed (nice forming tool Larry)....the cut outs in fire wall to cool the DA and a final mock up of the dummy cowl and the prop...

Art or larry did you guys decide whats going on in the "tail skid" area?

The plane was mocked up with everything EXCEPT the servos and covering and she came in at 31# .......and she was real nose heavy........yes the tail was way up in the air!

We wont get tooo excited until we have all the componets installed....but I think we can keep the weight under 34 lbs.....a 132 inch 1/3 scale plane!!! Hats off to Larry,,,and you too ART! LOL!


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Paul

She looks good up on her feet! That's a good range for the weight, too - I think your cowl helped with the CG.

My old 1/3 scale EI that I flew in competition for several years weighed in at about 42 lbs and it was a very good flyer and appeared light on the wing. That plane had a shorter wing span and narrower chord than Larry's versiion of the EIII.

Quick, get her covered tonight.....Saturday is supposed to be sunny and in the 40s. We can give her a test hop!

Cheers,,
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Wow Paul very impressed.

Finally seeing it on wheels really gets me going.
I am geared up to build both wing panels on my new one this weekend and then I will have all of the major parts framed up.

Two weeks and a couple of days isn't to bad.
Ordered covering and wire from Balsa USA this week, I have wire coming to make up a prototype gear and I have been working on getting a fiberglass cowl made.


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Here are a couple of pics with wheels ....leading edge formed (nice forming tool Larry)....the cut outs in fire wall to cool the DA and a final mock up of the dummy cowl and the prop...


HPA

Hey HPA,

What kind of dummy engine is that?

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I think it's a Ziroli, but Paul will know for sure.
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