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Old 04-21-2014, 08:01 PM
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Art, you can actually use the top of your ply piece to also be the anchor point for the bungee cord for your tail skid too.

I found this on AbuFletchers SE-5 alignment thread by you: I learned to fly on a Falcon 56 & OS40 with a 10x6 prop.
​I too learned on that combo. Great times. My first Falcon 56 actually had an O.S 35. It took two laps around to get it up to 500 feet as we flew at ~ 4600 ft in Pueblo Colorado.
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I cane see why what you are doing wouldnt work. It looks good and should be strong enough. Is the wood that supports the dowles ply? Prolly needs to be and I suppose it is but I dont remember if you mentioned and the pix dont let me tell.
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Doc, yes plywood to support the dowels.

But here is my problem. - when ever I snug the hinge unit up against the tail end of the fuselage, the rudder post binds just a little bit in the hinges. I think the brass tube is not up to the job........it just has too little wall thickness .......It must be deforming slightly causing the binding.............and it will only be exacerbated when the whole of the rudder is built onto the rudder post.

I am not prepared to try thicker material or change to steel.........so, on to Plan B. Robart hinge points.
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FireBee - that's what I learned to fly with - Falcon 56 and OS 40, but I had to switch to a 10x3 (Topflite nylon prop) I couldn't learn to land with a 10x6, it flew too fast and by the time is slowed down I was way past the runway and over the tall grass.

About 7 years into the hobby I finally learned how to land properly - its not that I am a slow learner but nobody ever showed me.
(that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)
Old 04-22-2014, 01:53 PM
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Art, that sounds real familiar about the landing thing. Takes most of us a while.

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Old 04-27-2014, 07:49 AM
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Lack of Progress Report:
(this is worse than a Turtle Report)

I have been cycling batteries and getting ready for the flying season. The Eindecker is cycled and charged, just waiting to be flown again. I have made no improvements since I last flew it at the MAD Patrol in Virginia Beach last October.

I also have been checking over my new BUSA Tri-plane. It was built by my Missouri buddy, Brian Hole. Of course I had to put my own spin on a perfectly fine airframe and I made some changes (required after I tripped and kicked the stab and elevators, breaking both). I built a new stab and elevators and painted the model - I wish now I had let Brian do the painting - the other two tripes that he built look much better than mine. But never the less, it is now ready to go........about time, since I have had it since last July!

As soon as the wind and rain cooperate, I will give it a maiden. It is 1/3 scale, powered by a GT-80 and just fitted with a pilot yesterday - LOOK OUT JIM! I'm flying the next sortie at the ODP looking for your DH-






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Old 04-27-2014, 07:55 AM
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I love that engine. GT80.
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Blowing 16 to 20 here today and for the last few days, all charged up and no wind (or lack thereof) to fly in. We have had some nice flying weather though so I cant complain too loudly.
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OK, back to work on the Nieuport.

I have decided to not give up on my hinging system. I have drilled a piece of hardwood, cut it in half, then shaped it to fit in between the brass straps.

I then cut a notch into the tail end of the fuselage to receive each hardwood block.........this aligns the rudder post and also keeps the hinges from getting out of round when pressure is applied, thus eliminating my earlier binding problem - I hope. It also provides clearance between the rudder and fuselage. I knew this had to be done, I don't know why I tried to skip this step .

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Old 04-28-2014, 07:55 AM
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I glued the blocks into the rear end of the fuse CRAP binding again I must be doing something wrong. So I had to cut the blocks out




Back to square one - except I have to repair the fuse (fill in where the blocks were supposed to be).

Then on to plan B. I am tired of messing with this and if I don't move on this plane will never fly this year (if at all!)

Robart hinge points, here we come!
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Old 04-28-2014, 08:10 AM
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You tried it, it don't work, move on to what does work, like you said. Nobody will see the rudder hinges as it's flying around. ( key words= flying around!!).
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Art, how about a full length piece of bass or spruce routed out half round to support the tube, and dont pull it real hard up against with the straps, just snug oughta do it.
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:22 PM
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Doc, that wouldn't work because the rudder post between the hinges is part of the rudder which would move when the rudder was deflected and it is also the same diameter as the hinge; therefore, it couldn't nestle up against the full length routed out piece of wood.....it would cause even more binding.

I'm just going to move on and use conventional type hinges. The the only reason I was trying to make it removable was to insure that I could transport it - I have double checked and there is enough room in the van for the fuse w/rudder attached.
Old 04-28-2014, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by R/C Art
- LOOK OUT JIM! I'm flying the next sortie at the ODP looking for your DH-

That's not fair...the DH-2 is so slow...How about the Nieuport 28?
Old 04-28-2014, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tmoth4
That's not fair...the DH-2 is so slow...How about the Nieuport 28?
That's fine with me - bring it on!
Old 04-29-2014, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by R/C Art
I have double checked and there is enough room in the van for the fuse w/rudder attached.
With or without the wheels?
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Art, Not to beat a dead horse (but I will anyway). Back to the rudder hinges. What about a wooden dowl or smaller dia. CF rod in the in the hinge area of the rudder post (inserted into the larger dia CF rod). You would use some larger diameter "slices" of the CF rod spaced to act as bushings, but not near the area where the hinge straps are. That way (perhaps) the area where it's binding (near the straps?) has more room. Does that make any sense?
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Originally Posted by Lucky Dog
With or without the wheels?
Lengthwise it will fit. It was never gonna be short enough to fit with the wheels on it. As a matter of fact, either the whole landing gear, wheels and all, has to be removed - or the cabanes have to be removed. Still working on that one.......

As for your other comment, no, I don't know what you are suggesting......but I have buried that horse!

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Old 04-30-2014, 04:27 AM
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I have seen the Robart/style hinge made of metal (aluminum I think) and wonder if you will be using them? I'll try to see if I can source them.
Doc
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Originally Posted by R/C Art
Lengthwise it will fit. It was never gonna be short enough to fit with the wheels on it. As a matter of fact, either the whole landing gear, wheels and all, has to be removed - or the cabanes have to be removed. Still working on that one.......

As for your other comment, no, I don't know what you are suggesting......but I have buried that horse!
Sorry Mike this is the way he looks when he gets frustrated and looks at the rest of the project............as YOU can see ......HE can not possibly see you or anyone else anymore...............................LOL!



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The old saying about "The pioneers take the arrows" is still true !" hahahahaha

I wish I was gonna see this bird in person this year, heck I am gonna miss all you guys just chewing the fat under the trees or was that make your own taco's?

I have been telling my friends with WW1 birds about your event over there.. and that SUPER nice field.. What we need is a school bus and trailer loaded to the gills..I keep hinting someone in my cirlce of friends needs to buy an old school bus so we can all roll into some events ...share the gas and driving.. it would be fun.
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I got nothing to say
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Originally Posted by geezeraviation
I have seen the Robart/style hinge made of metal (aluminum I think) and wonder if you will be using them? I'll try to see if I can source them.
Doc
I haven't seen what you are talking about, but I will be using the large Robart hinge points.......its a done deal.
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Originally Posted by R/C Art
I haven't seen what you are talking about, but I will be using the large Robart hinge points.......its a done deal.
See post #320

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Paul, I considered citing that but decided to let a blind horse wander.
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