The FAA wants to outlaw building!
04-21-2016, 07:58 AM
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The AMA is failing us here in the USA boys!! Here is the latest from their own website...AMA is disappointed with several of the provisions that passed the Senate, which could undermine our community’s model aircraft activity and detract from the creativity, innovation and enjoyment of the hobby.One of the provisions would require all UAS, including model aircraft, to meet new FAA design and production standards and impose unnecessary regulation on hobbyists who often build their own models at home. This legislation also puts new requirements on model aircraft operations within 5 miles of airports, potentially jeopardizing hundreds of existing flying sites that have operated safely and harmoniously within our communities for decades. And finally, the bill creates an unnecessary and unsubstantiated requirement for AMA members ages 13 and above to take an online FAA safety test and carry proof of passing the test when flying.
The AMA is NOT getting the job done! They are utterly incompetent. Call/Write your Senators and Congressmen, lets prevent this from being the last scale RC flying season in the USA!
The AMA is NOT getting the job done! They are utterly incompetent. Call/Write your Senators and Congressmen, lets prevent this from being the last scale RC flying season in the USA!
04-21-2016, 08:12 AM
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We could potentially be required to carry 4 cards in order to fly at an AMA sanctioned club field, if we are able to fly at all: AMA card, club membership card, FAA registration card, and card proving passing a test. There is also the possibility that aircraft we now own would become illegal to fly since they may not meet whatever certification requirements the FAA comes up with. Imagine: a 9 ounce foamy, fixed wing aircraft would need to have an airworthiness cert. from the FAA!
Asinine beyond comprehension.
Asinine beyond comprehension.
04-21-2016, 08:42 AM
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Club membership card??? You mean that bit of paper usually printed out on someone's home inkjet? As far as the "airworthiness certificate," that would be virtually unenforceable. Would the FAA be stationing an army of "RC Air Marshals" at every flying field around the nation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ
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04-21-2016, 10:02 AM
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"I'm sure that anyone who passed the written test at the DMV (so they can legally drive to the flying field) can, without problem, pass an online "flight safety" quiz for the FAA"
Let's just give 'em this, let's just give 'em that. Soon we've got nothing.
"As far as the "airworthiness certificate," that would be virtually unenforceable. Would the FAA be stationing an army of "RC Air Marshals" at every flying field around the nation?"
All they need to do is pick some poor sap and make an example of him by publicizing it. The fine for flying anything radio controlled over 8 ounces, unregistered with the FAA is up to $27.500. How many are willing to risk that to fly?
I hope the JCAB is more sane than the FAA.
Let's just give 'em this, let's just give 'em that. Soon we've got nothing.
"As far as the "airworthiness certificate," that would be virtually unenforceable. Would the FAA be stationing an army of "RC Air Marshals" at every flying field around the nation?"
All they need to do is pick some poor sap and make an example of him by publicizing it. The fine for flying anything radio controlled over 8 ounces, unregistered with the FAA is up to $27.500. How many are willing to risk that to fly?
I hope the JCAB is more sane than the FAA.
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04-21-2016, 04:46 PM
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It sure will be interesting if rules for airworthiness pass for model unmanned aircraft. It may even include TSO’s; Technical Standard Order, PMA; Parts Manufacturer Approval, STC; Supplemental Type Certificates and then the traceability of parts installed on a model.
Yes it can or will get really intesting. Read this spoof on the FAA TSO’d Pencil
Yes it can or will get really intesting. Read this spoof on the FAA TSO’d Pencil
04-27-2016, 02:38 PM
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I've often thought that if I couldn't continue with RC scale, for example, for financial reasons or if I could no longer support a "shop," then I could happily join the free-flight scale community which does some truly amazing small scale modeling.
I'd actually rather do this than switch to electric RC (which I view as a greater threat to my own person enjoyment of WWI RC modeling than the FAA).
I'd actually rather do this than switch to electric RC (which I view as a greater threat to my own person enjoyment of WWI RC modeling than the FAA).
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04-27-2016, 07:45 PM
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My first love was rubber powered free flight scale and I could return to it very easily. I would prefer it to be by choice however! I will continue to build scale models one way or another, that I do know for certain.
04-28-2016, 03:06 AM
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I think I'd rather switch to control line scale than free flight. I have a lot of respect for those who fly scale free flight, but I don't think I could put that much work into a plane and fly it with no control. Indoor free flight might be another option since there is less risk of significant damage with a crash.
To satisfy my urge to build, and not wanting to invest time in planes I might not be able to fly, I've been making wooden toys for my grandson and whirligigs for friends!
To satisfy my urge to build, and not wanting to invest time in planes I might not be able to fly, I've been making wooden toys for my grandson and whirligigs for friends!
04-28-2016, 07:52 AM
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Back when I was a kid, I would build the Guillow's WWI planes....(all balsa, tissue, and dope) then pack them with matches, set them on fire and send them to their doom. It became even more dramatic once I learned to make hydrogen-filled balloons with zinc and hydrochloric acid (which at that time you could buy in hobby shops). So free-flight sounds fine to me. 
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04-30-2016, 10:55 PM
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I am fine with a online test because it make it more difficult for someone to say they didn't know what they were doing was wrong. As for the building certification I think that is just plane stupid .
