Vintage wheels: Flair vs. Williams Bros.
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RE: Vintage wheels: Flair vs. Williams Bros.
About the plastic material the old WB wheels were made of.
I have an old (20+ years) plane with the Vintage wheels just over 4". This plane has had at least three engines worn out on it and the wheels have worn and had brass tubing used as bushings on the axles. The wheels, of course, keep wearing, and this means larger and larger tubing to make up the difference. These were the original wheels, or so I'm told.
For a weight and power reference point; The plane is now at, or slightly over, eight pounds, and powered by a 2 stroke .60.
The wheels are now getting to the point that any larger tubing will slip over the wheel collar. I suppose a washer could be used next time, but it would be nice to be able to just order a new set from Tower and retire these. They have served this plane well all this time, and longer than, how ever many engines did, that were on it.
I suppose that a nylon wheel might not wear like this plastic, but these aren't bad. Not bad at all! [sm=wink_smile.gif]
Of course no wear-out would be even better, if that's possible. [sm=lol.gif]
I have an old (20+ years) plane with the Vintage wheels just over 4". This plane has had at least three engines worn out on it and the wheels have worn and had brass tubing used as bushings on the axles. The wheels, of course, keep wearing, and this means larger and larger tubing to make up the difference. These were the original wheels, or so I'm told.
For a weight and power reference point; The plane is now at, or slightly over, eight pounds, and powered by a 2 stroke .60.
The wheels are now getting to the point that any larger tubing will slip over the wheel collar. I suppose a washer could be used next time, but it would be nice to be able to just order a new set from Tower and retire these. They have served this plane well all this time, and longer than, how ever many engines did, that were on it.
I suppose that a nylon wheel might not wear like this plastic, but these aren't bad. Not bad at all! [sm=wink_smile.gif]
Of course no wear-out would be even better, if that's possible. [sm=lol.gif]
#27
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RE: Vintage wheels: Flair vs. Williams Bros.
20 years without a blowout is a record for any tire! If you need a new set just give Daniel a call and he'll have a set out to you within a couple of days! And he's a great guy to deal with!
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RE: Vintage wheels: Flair vs. Williams Bros.
I may be able to shed some light on the number of spokes per side on the Williams Bros wheels. Here is a picture of a wheel, without the covering. It has 32 spokes per side, but half of them are laced to the opposit side of the rim. So only 16 spokes would touch the covering.
#31
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RE: Vintage wheels: Flair vs. Williams Bros.
Steve, can you give any information on the provenance of this rim? I assume it's of modern production. The Palmer Cord Aero Tyres used on WWI British aircraft definitely had 64 spokes radiating out from the hub. But it may be that some American company used the 32 spoke pattern.
#33
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RE: Vintage wheels: Flair vs. Williams Bros.
OK. I get what you're saying. There are 32 spokes per side but 16 would be "below" the others so wouldn't make an impression on the covering.
#34
RE: Vintage wheels: Flair vs. Williams Bros.
That's how it looks to me, anyway. Assuming the French did as good a job with their Full Scale Model as Bob did with his.
Steve
Steve
#36
RE: Vintage wheels: Flair vs. Williams Bros.
I ordered Flair wheels from RadicalRC awhile ago when Wms Bros was down. Took awhile, but they got them to me. The differences explained are all on target.
Great to see the Williams line not only back, but improved!!
Jim
Great to see the Williams line not only back, but improved!!
Jim