New Project = Bud Nosen "MR MULLIGAN"
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Claudbosc, Prop Nut,
I have a Q52 in mine. There have been two others in my club over the past few years and they've both flown well. I haven't flown it yet but it should fly very similar to my old A&A Citabria. It needs rudder coupled with ailerons to keep it from yawling in the turns but takes off and lands great.
-Stuart
I have a Q52 in mine. There have been two others in my club over the past few years and they've both flown well. I haven't flown it yet but it should fly very similar to my old A&A Citabria. It needs rudder coupled with ailerons to keep it from yawling in the turns but takes off and lands great.
-Stuart
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Claudbosc, Prop Nut,
I have a Q52 in mine. There have been two others in my club over the past few years and they've both flown well. I haven't flown it yet but it should fly very similar to my old A&A Citabria. It needs rudder coupled with ailerons to keep it from yawling in the turns but takes off and lands great.
-Stuart
Claudbosc, Prop Nut,
I have a Q52 in mine. There have been two others in my club over the past few years and they've both flown well. I haven't flown it yet but it should fly very similar to my old A&A Citabria. It needs rudder coupled with ailerons to keep it from yawling in the turns but takes off and lands great.
-Stuart
Wow...they are fantastic.You have other photos?More detailed....
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Let me know what areas you have questions about and I'll try to answer.
Let me know what areas you have questions about and I'll try to answer.
The inside of the fuselage, as the undercarriage to the fuselage is joined, like they are installs the servos to you on the tail, and one seen they give over, where the wings are connected....I hope is written all correcting.My “Mr Mulligan†nearly is ended, but to me they serve details.I will try to insert a some photo
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Claudbosc,
I'll take closeups this weekend of the plane
- landing gear where it attaches to the fuselage - including struts
- Wing mounting design
- The servos mounting design
-Stuart
I'll take closeups this weekend of the plane
- landing gear where it attaches to the fuselage - including struts
- Wing mounting design
- The servos mounting design
-Stuart
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I will try to insert a some photo
ORIGINAL: Flyright
Let me know what areas you have questions about and I'll try to answer.
Let me know what areas you have questions about and I'll try to answer.
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Here are the pictures of my plane. Steel rods are fastened to the cabin and insert into brass tubing in the wings. I added bolts to the 1st rib to insure strong fastening to the cabin. It may be "overkill" but it is strong.
The landing gear is held to the fuse by nylon screws. I added functional struts o the landing gear to better support it. It is very weak without the additional support.
Lastly, the servos are fastened to plywood strips I glued in the tail. Not real scale-like but they are very easy to install
The landing gear is held to the fuse by nylon screws. I added functional struts o the landing gear to better support it. It is very weak without the additional support.
Lastly, the servos are fastened to plywood strips I glued in the tail. Not real scale-like but they are very easy to install
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Claudbosc, Prop Nut,
I have a Q52 in mine. There have been two others in my club over the past few years and they've both flown well. I haven't flown it yet but it should fly very similar to my old A&A Citabria. It needs rudder coupled with ailerons to keep it from yawling in the turns but takes off and lands great.
-Stuart
Claudbosc, Prop Nut,
I have a Q52 in mine. There have been two others in my club over the past few years and they've both flown well. I haven't flown it yet but it should fly very similar to my old A&A Citabria. It needs rudder coupled with ailerons to keep it from yawling in the turns but takes off and lands great.
-Stuart
Have they got any differential aileron on their models? Would that avoid the necessity for using CAR?
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John,
I don't think Differential aileons are needed. My plane is not setup that way nor did I set my Nosen Citabria that way. The Citabria flew great!
By the way, what is CAR?
-Stuart
I don't think Differential aileons are needed. My plane is not setup that way nor did I set my Nosen Citabria that way. The Citabria flew great!
By the way, what is CAR?
-Stuart
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John,
I don't think Differential aileons are needed. My plane is not setup that way nor did I set my Nosen Citabria that way. The Citabria flew great!
By the way, what is CAR?
-Stuart
John,
I don't think Differential aileons are needed. My plane is not setup that way nor did I set my Nosen Citabria that way. The Citabria flew great!
By the way, what is CAR?
-Stuart
Sorry about the acronym, I assumed it was common. Viewing this thread it became obvious that I was among experts. CAR is Coupled Aileron and Rudder, used in British mag's, probably another case of two nations separated by a common language. (I probably got that quotation wrong too).
I apologise again for my mistake, I have frequently had to ask for clarification of a term etc, should have thought ahead. I am back to modelling from a looong time ago. My most recent gear was Futaba Digimac 5 (27Meg) with no computer aid such as end point, rate etc. I have been trying to asimilate so many advances.
On another thread I saw a different use of differential. The tailwheel was steered through a greater angle than the rudder by deliberate use of more mechanical advantage on the tailwheel horn.
To clarify, the ridder horn and the tailwheel horm had the same length but the rudder was operated from the inner hole on the servo and the tailwheel from the outer holes. The builder said it allowed him to turn within the runway width without upsetting his flying settings for the rudder.
By the way, thanks for the very informative words and pictures etc. I have enjoyed them, especially the rather artistic rear view of the fuselage stringers. I did a "double take" as I looked at a clear photo and didn't immediately understand what I was looking at.
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John,
These planes do require CAR in turns. If you use ailerons only, it will yawl with the nose up. They do require right rudder coupled with aileron for best results.
My tailwheel has a mechanical attachment via springs to the rudder. This prevents any shock to the servo gears on rough surfaces. Usually on take off, the tail wheel isn't on the ground long and has no adverse effect on the rudder.
I think the stringer photo you are looking at is actually Claudboscs'. My photos are of the covered ( finished ) plane.
Take care,
Stuart
These planes do require CAR in turns. If you use ailerons only, it will yawl with the nose up. They do require right rudder coupled with aileron for best results.
My tailwheel has a mechanical attachment via springs to the rudder. This prevents any shock to the servo gears on rough surfaces. Usually on take off, the tail wheel isn't on the ground long and has no adverse effect on the rudder.
I think the stringer photo you are looking at is actually Claudboscs'. My photos are of the covered ( finished ) plane.
Take care,
Stuart
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One thing I finally figurred out about this kit, It never looked "right" to me you guys nailed it
THe Pics of the real one look at the lower aft fuselage. It is "swoopy"
it swoops up and back from the cabin like the DGA's do. and the shape of the Rudder isn't quite right.
anyway great work on your builds, and thanks for clarifying that for me.
Mike
THe Pics of the real one look at the lower aft fuselage. It is "swoopy"
it swoops up and back from the cabin like the DGA's do. and the shape of the Rudder isn't quite right.
anyway great work on your builds, and thanks for clarifying that for me.
Mike
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Mike,
The Nosen Mulligan's are more of a sport scale plane rather than an exact scale. The rudder on the full scale plane is actually more like a 3/4 rudder since the bottom section is really part of the fuse. The tailwheel is mounted inside this section . From what I can tell, the IKON NW kits are closer to a scale Mulligan. Either way, the plane gets a lot of lookers at the field.
The Nosen Mulligan's are more of a sport scale plane rather than an exact scale. The rudder on the full scale plane is actually more like a 3/4 rudder since the bottom section is really part of the fuse. The tailwheel is mounted inside this section . From what I can tell, the IKON NW kits are closer to a scale Mulligan. Either way, the plane gets a lot of lookers at the field.
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I found a Williams 1/4 scale Wasp engine on eBay. in fact there were three but I bought one.
Input the number below.
Item number: 260103212419
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RE: New Project = Bud Nosen
hi there i have the ikon mr mulligan, and well i need some information, is a 64cc 5 cylinder radial going to be enough, and what is the C of G? anybody?
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I don't remember the specs on the IKON version, but most of Emil's designs would fly on a 1.20 four stroke. I'm sure that your radial will be more than adequate.
If you find no info for the CG, balance your model, initially, on the spar. That should be adequate until you get in a few test flights. You can make adjustments from there.
If you find no info for the CG, balance your model, initially, on the spar. That should be adequate until you get in a few test flights. You can make adjustments from there.
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it is a heavy thing and cals for a fairly big motor from back in the day of the st3000 to a g38-62
however i have substituted some soft wood for stronger stuff and detailing etc and there is no main spar its 2 stabs in each wing that plug into the fuzz
and if i had the cg then i could go and fit the radial tonight
however i have substituted some soft wood for stronger stuff and detailing etc and there is no main spar its 2 stabs in each wing that plug into the fuzz
and if i had the cg then i could go and fit the radial tonight