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Old 01-24-2013, 06:34 PM
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This was taken two yrs ago.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:24 AM
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looks like a model to me...
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:23 AM
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Where did you get that pointed spinner?
it's a non-flying display spinner that I created. Molded the Topflight spinner, resin cast, then grind that casting to shape, then final finish. In the attached image, the Spinner and prop are a single slide on unit.
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Love that spinner and prop. It makes the plane when static and this is one of the most realistic static shots in my opinion. Good job. I would only suggest to photoshop out the linkage and it's perfect in my eyes.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:25 AM
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Playing around in photoshop - Model photo taken in 2012 then combined with WWII background.

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Old 01-25-2013, 10:31 AM
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Where did you get that pointed spinner?
it's a non-flying display spinner that I created. Molded the Topflight spinner, resin cast, then grind that casting to shape, then final finish. In the attached image, the Spinner and prop are a single slide on unit.
Crash,

Love that spinner and prop. It makes the plane when static and this is one of the most realistic static shots in my opinion. Good job. I would only suggest to photoshop out the linkage and it's perfect in my eyes.
Thanks Mark. Photo wasn't worked for this thread. Just grabbed and posted for the spinner view.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:45 PM
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:07 PM
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Nice, but it's unfortunate the way that digital servos allow the ailerons on both sides to hang down. The only explanation for this on a full-scale aircraft would have to be that the cable system had failed.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:12 AM
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Looks great to me, but I'm not a "pine swinger" expert. Like the misty fog action at the tree line.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:24 AM
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Great picture David.
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:56 AM
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Thing is, the only thing needed to "fix" this problem is to switch on the radio for the photo. Along the same lines, almost every period photo of a Pup sitting on the ground (without a pilot) shows the elevator drooped down.
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:11 AM
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Thanks guys. I'm not a big WWI buff and I even asked one of the guys if the ailerons hung down on the full scale, and the answer was, I don't know. Oh well. Here is the original with color, which I think I like better because the fog stands out a little more.


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Old 01-29-2013, 05:25 AM
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I prefer the color version too; it shows off both the mist and the frost on the grass, not to mention the wonderful subtle colors. It's really a very nice photo. And obviously a great (and large) model. But, because of the ailerons, it's immediately apparent that it's a model. Digital servos in particular cause this. You never see this with normal servos. Remember that on the full-size the control surfaces are connected directly to the joystick in a closed loop. It's just not possible for both ailerons to droop down.

I might also go with a tighter crop.
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Thanks, but I didn't want to crop it tighter because I think that takes away from the background and fog affect.
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:51 AM
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Thanks, but I didn't want to crop it tighter because I think that takes away from the background and fog affect.
Yes and no. You do see a wider swath of the mist in the uncropped photo. But you get to see the mist "closer up" with the cropped version. Also the tighter cropping eliminates some of the (slightly) non-scale looking grass in the foreground. Anyway, these are just my own personal subjective opinions.

BTW, photo editors at magazines MUCH prefer uncropped photos to work with. They want the freedom to crop as the layout demands and also think about things like where to overlay text. So the wise (commercial) photographer keeps that in mind and shoots a range of cropping options from tight horizontals to loose verticals.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:28 AM
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Yes, I've done enough work with the magazines to know they want a wider crop to work with.  Thanks for the constructive criticism.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:37 AM
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Thought I would share a link a buddy sent me today. I know your plane and photo fans and this has to be one of the greatest collection of WWII
[link]http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=14428&finish=15&start=0[/link]
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Maybe that's part of why I stopped trying to do photography professionally. I wanted them to be MY photographs, not the photo editor's photographs.

Back to the topic of drooping flight surfaces, in some photos you can see a strap in the cockpit that keeps the stick in place while on the ground. The elevator would always droop down on the ground, from gravity, unless something (or someone) were holding it level.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:27 AM
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Thought I would share a link a buddy sent me today. I know your plane and photo fans and this has to be one of the greatest collection of WWII
[link]http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=14428&finish=15&start=0[/link]

On page four of that link, the top picture is a P-47 "Tar Heel Hal" and the fourth picture down is a P-47 "Eileen"....looks just a like a model to me! I was just thinkling...what makes these full scale pictures so distinctly different than model pictures...screws, wire gear, mufflers etc. I then realized the picture I was looking at had just that! Big screws holding the cowl on and spindly wire on the tailwheel. LMAO. But...it did fool whoever was posting pictures on that thread.

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David Hart, take a bow!
That is exactly what this thread is all about... And im refering to the original colour shot!
Forget this super high res action model show snaps. Forget the top gun scale masters model. Forget photoshop.
Just get a scale model, scout a location, pick you timing then get down in the dirt and do your job a the thread starter called for.
Its that simple... And the effect is brilliant.
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On page four of that link, the top picture is a P-47 ''Tar Heel Hal'' and the fourth picture down is a P-47 ''Eileen''....looks just a like a model to me! I was just thinkling...what makes these full scale pictures so distinctly different than model pictures...screws, wire gear, mufflers etc. I then realized the picture I was looking at had just that! Big screws holding the cowl on and spindly wire on the tailwheel. LMAO. But...it did fool whoever was posting pictures on that thread.

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Absolutely hilarious. That photo would have taken a beating in this thread.
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Thanks David! We got lucky with the fog and I purposely got there early to do this.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:44 PM
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Excellent shot David. I like the color version better as well. The lens perspective helps this shot by making the grass and trees look more realistic to scale. I know it's a big plane, but the lens is helping add to the realism because the wide angle optics exponentially shrink the elements within the image as the distance increases.

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Thanks Mark!
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David,

Next time the owner should turn on the Transmitter and Reciever for the photo Hold Down Elevator and then the perfectionist will be held to finding something like the fog was too thin or the field wasn't round.....to find wrong. But all in all that was a great shot. I wish i had been able to get there much earlier to get in on that dawn patrol, and early morning fog backround....photo shoot.

Hope to see what you have shot at the Blue Max on your site.

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Hey Roger. It was good meeting you and bs'ing at the event. This was Scott's plane. So he was busy doing other things getting ready for the day. I hope to have photos up soon.
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