Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
02-28-2007, 01:14 PM
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Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
Hi all,
I am in the process of giving a complete makeover of the Great Planes Electrtifly Fokker DVII (36 "WS). I am looking for a scheme that does not have the lozenge covering. So far, I can only locate two which are pretty boring. One is all white HG and the other is all black Joseph Jacob . Can you all help? DP
I am in the process of giving a complete makeover of the Great Planes Electrtifly Fokker DVII (36 "WS). I am looking for a scheme that does not have the lozenge covering. So far, I can only locate two which are pretty boring. One is all white HG and the other is all black Joseph Jacob . Can you all help? DP
02-28-2007, 05:43 PM
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
Hi all,
Thank you so much for the info. The red and white I saw a picture of it at the Royal Airforce Museum but it does not show the underside. Sometimes I wonder if I carry it too far with these stand off scale park flyers? DP
Thank you so much for the info. The red and white I saw a picture of it at the Royal Airforce Museum but it does not show the underside. Sometimes I wonder if I carry it too far with these stand off scale park flyers? DP
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
Hey Dai,I believe there is a blue and red fuselage one, with no lozenge, the wings are blue and white as well, If your intterested I'll try and find a shot somehwere.
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03-01-2007, 09:52 AM
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
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[8D] Think this is it.
[8D] Think this is it.
03-01-2007, 10:08 AM
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Dai Phan, if I were you I'd go with the Karl Bolle color scheme if only becasue it would be a more interesting painting challenge. And if it has lozenge on the underside, who cares? You could either make that a "learning experience" and make up some frisket masks to spray on the lozenge colors or just do the underside of the wings in a light blue and live with the scale inaccuracy. The red and blue and red and white DVIIs have been done to death.
It would be fun to get to do the "Fokker streaking" and then cover than with those nice stripes.
Just my 2 cents of course.
It would be fun to get to do the "Fokker streaking" and then cover than with those nice stripes.
Just my 2 cents of course.
03-01-2007, 10:28 AM
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
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Dai Phan, if I were you I'd go with the Karl Bolle color scheme if only becasue it would be a more interesting painting challenge. And if it has lozenge on the underside, who cares? You could either make that a "learning experience" and make up some frisket masks to spray on the lozenge colors or just do the underside of the wings in a light blue and live with the scale inaccuracy. The red and blue and red and white DVIIs have been done to death.
It would be fun to get to do the "Fokker streaking" and then cover than with those nice stripes.
Just my 2 cents of course.
Dai Phan, if I were you I'd go with the Karl Bolle color scheme if only becasue it would be a more interesting painting challenge. And if it has lozenge on the underside, who cares? You could either make that a "learning experience" and make up some frisket masks to spray on the lozenge colors or just do the underside of the wings in a light blue and live with the scale inaccuracy. The red and blue and red and white DVIIs have been done to death.
It would be fun to get to do the "Fokker streaking" and then cover than with those nice stripes.
Just my 2 cents of course.
03-01-2007, 11:36 AM
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
How about this one?
Bertholds "Sword With Wings" not only had lozenge on the bottom of the wing, but it had the primer streaking from approx. the leading edge of the lower wing back to the center of the cockpit. It was the only Bluebird know to have blue on the top of the wings, except of course Marconnay's 4D which was believed to be Berthold's plane after he left Jasta 15 in August of 1918, the same month Marconnay joined the squadron.
Bertholds "Sword With Wings" not only had lozenge on the bottom of the wing, but it had the primer streaking from approx. the leading edge of the lower wing back to the center of the cockpit. It was the only Bluebird know to have blue on the top of the wings, except of course Marconnay's 4D which was believed to be Berthold's plane after he left Jasta 15 in August of 1918, the same month Marconnay joined the squadron.
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
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How about this one?
Bertholds "Sword With Wings" not only had lozenge on the bottom of the wing, but it had the primer streaking from approx. the leading edge of the lower wing back to the center of the cockpit. It was the only Bluebird know to have blue on the top of the wings, except of course Marconnay's 4D which was believed to be Berthold's plane after he left Jasta 15 in August of 1918, the same month Marconnay joined the squadron.
How about this one?
Bertholds "Sword With Wings" not only had lozenge on the bottom of the wing, but it had the primer streaking from approx. the leading edge of the lower wing back to the center of the cockpit. It was the only Bluebird know to have blue on the top of the wings, except of course Marconnay's 4D which was believed to be Berthold's plane after he left Jasta 15 in August of 1918, the same month Marconnay joined the squadron.
03-01-2007, 01:35 PM
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Dai Phan,
You could always go with Ltn Hans Kirschstein’s Jasta 6 Fokker D.VII, which looks to be entirely in black and white stripes:
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/...r1.stripey.jpg
A natural evolution of his previous Fokker Dr.1 which had the striped top wing and fuselage, and referred to as “die optische Taeuschung†– the Optical Illusion. I know that models of his Triplanes done in this scheme are very striking – an all striped Fokker D.VII would be spectacular.
And not a bit of lozenge to mess with.
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Lee McDuffee
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You could always go with Ltn Hans Kirschstein’s Jasta 6 Fokker D.VII, which looks to be entirely in black and white stripes:
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/...r1.stripey.jpg
A natural evolution of his previous Fokker Dr.1 which had the striped top wing and fuselage, and referred to as “die optische Taeuschung†– the Optical Illusion. I know that models of his Triplanes done in this scheme are very striking – an all striped Fokker D.VII would be spectacular.
And not a bit of lozenge to mess with.
Best regards,
Lee McDuffee
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03-01-2007, 04:51 PM
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
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About the only one I've sen without lozenge fabric on it that I'd want to model is this one. It's Obit Karl Bolle, Jasta 2, who had 36 victories:
About the only one I've sen without lozenge fabric on it that I'd want to model is this one. It's Obit Karl Bolle, Jasta 2, who had 36 victories:
03-01-2007, 04:53 PM
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
Well I think that I need to paint the lozenge or live with inaccuracy. I think I will settle with the final two candidates since both have the bright colors I need. What do you think? DP
03-01-2007, 05:48 PM
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
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They look fine but both are SOOOOOO overdone! Seems like 90% of the DVIIs out there use one of these two schemes.
They look fine but both are SOOOOOO overdone! Seems like 90% of the DVIIs out there use one of these two schemes.
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
Two that haven't been mentioned so far are somewhat conjectural, but would look good. One is Frommherz's (sp?) black/yellow/red DVII machine and the other would be Emil Thuy's early DVII with yellow wings and a green streaked fuselage(the streaked fuselage being similar to the DRI). There are no known photos of the Frommherz DVII and the Thuy wings may have been lozenge,there isn't a consensus amongst the experts on it. I think they may have been yellow.
I am currently finishing up a 1/4 scale DVII in the Jasta 7 all black scheme of Lnt. Nebgen's DVII.
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I am currently finishing up a 1/4 scale DVII in the Jasta 7 all black scheme of Lnt. Nebgen's DVII.
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03-01-2007, 08:25 PM
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
Here's a few you may not be familiar with, as they are all post-war schemes. It's kind of bland, but looks cool because of the red stars, is the Russian D-VII. The cream one is Lithuanian.
My favorite is the Finnish one, very striking. The Finns acquired about 20 D-VII's illegally and used them from about 1919 until the mid '20s. And they were also operated with wheels.
And not a lozenge on any of them
My favorite is the Finnish one, very striking. The Finns acquired about 20 D-VII's illegally and used them from about 1919 until the mid '20s. And they were also operated with wheels.
And not a lozenge on any of them
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RE: Non-Lozenge Scheme for Fokker DVII
But the thing is that I would like to model the German side though... I know that I will most likely end up painting the lozenge on the bottom so I will try to avoid top sided lozenge scheme. DP
