allanflowers

These pix are of the Royal Australian Air Force's Sopwith Pup replica, which I am modeling. It is not a typical Pup instrument panel, as you can see.
I am trying to duplicate this panel but am having difficulty determining what the various instruments are.
Any help would be appreciated, especially if you happened to have a detailed idea or picture to refer to on any of the dials. I will fake it if I have too but it would be nice to do it right.
Thanks

gary9648

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Looks like typical flight instruments of the day. Small photo hard to tell. The bananna shaped tube with the ball is the turn back cordinator, the middle gage at the bottom row is the altemeter, the top gage on the left looks like an amp or volt meter. you then have to have an airspeed meter. The small gages on right are probably engine gages, i.e. temp. oil pressure. The one gage on the bottom left, not sure.
Gary

abufletcher

Allan, I though this enlargement might help people identify some of the dials. Even though you can't make out the numbers, the layouts seem pretty distinctive.

V2PLUS10

Hi Allan,

Upper left is either an Exhaust Gas Temp (EGT) or cylinder head temp. Compass of course (!) in the center. Bottom row, left to right, RPM, Airspeed, Altimeter and engine oil press/ temp gauges and probably head temp if the other is an EGT. One of the gauges in the cluster gauge appears to have black tape over it... the Red knob on the right is probably a primer and the switch above probably magnetos....The tube with the ball and fluid in it is the turn coordinator..no bank info though.

This has a radial instead of a rotary, is that right?

Randy

V2PLUS10

Hi Allan,

I found a better picture....upper left is a cylinder head temp gauge.

http://www.pbase.com/melbob/image/48459120

Now you can make the little brass placards too!! VNE 108 KtS !!!

Randy

allanflowers

Gentlemen THANKS. What a response!
Randy, that photo solves all my problems (except actually building the thing). Wow!

Maybe I will come up with a list of other burning questions for Randy... like - is there life after death? - would Marylou go to the prom if I ask her? - any pictures of a Siemens Schuckert D.III instrument panel?
Actually it's a little late for Marylou.
Again, thanks.

abufletcher

The answer is there wasn't one. The instruments were scattered around the cockpit. There's an issue of Flying Scale Models (May 06) with an article on a stunning little FF scale version, a history of type with quite a few photos, two pages of color profiles, and a three-view showing the DIII and DIV.

So what's the ETA on the Siemens-Schuckert? And will you have it in the air before I get the CI into the sky?

allanflowers

Don, thanks for the photos. Chris also sent me scans of the Profile Publication with those in it. I have heard those are the only two photos available. However, maybe Randy will find some more??
Since I am working on the Pup and have a lot yet to do, it will be awhile before I get going full steam on the D.III. However, in the evening when I can't work in my unheated garage shop anyway, I have been doing some preliminary work - including a lot of sketching on build details.
I want to complete the Pup before committing to anything so I am more familiar with its construction style. The SS D.III will be an interesting project because the airplane is so different.

V2PLUS10

How did we ever get by before Google and RCU????

Randy

camdyson

Allan,

If you need any more help, let me know. I just got off the phone from one of the techs at the museum, and he is happy to take the required photos and email them to you.

Cheers,

Cam

allanflowers

What a great offer.
I would love a STRAIGHT ON photo of the instrument panel so I can make the instrument faces, with flash or good lighting so there are no shadows on them. Otherwise I will have to "undistort" (in Photoshop) the image that Randy put me on to, and work with the contrast, etc. to make them printable. In a few cases, with what I have so far, I would have to recreate the instrument face (probably in Adobe Illustrator) - a time consuming process.
In return, I will promise to make some nice pix of my completed model and send it to them, if they want to display them next to the real thing (crazy nut in California makes RC version of our RAAF Pup replica).
Thanks!
I have already started to Photoshop the overall layout, reduce it to the size and start to determine if I have Forstner bits to drill the main holes.

camdyson

No sweat - I'll see what we can do for you.

Cam

abufletcher

BTW, I found that using an image of actual wood worked well as the background for my dash. This was selectively darked in spots (with the burn tool) to create an uneven/worn look. If you're going the printing photo route that's definitely better than an illlustrator drawing for the grain.

allanflowers

I would use Illustrator for the dials but, if I do the photo grain thing, Photoshop would be better.
However, I hope to use actual wood, if the Forstner bit sizes work out. It will still be a simplified IP but, at 1/6th scale, good enough for now.