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Old 10-09-2012, 02:09 PM
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What a beautiful Baron you have too! How did you make your seat belts and nose gear light? On my Baron Doors I used two robart nose gear hinges and the rear doors I used Brass hinges from a doll house store since I was unable to get the rear doors to work with the same range as the real airplane.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:31 PM
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Great job Alpha! Speaking of the Benedini sound system, I too was thinking the same thing. I actually found a set of sound files for the Baron, while searching the net one time. We could give them to Benedini to make an audio file for the Baron!

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Old 10-09-2012, 02:52 PM
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Hey James,
nice to see you again! It' s really not nessesary to ask Thomas Benedini for a Baron-soundfile, because it's done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9n5_R7oGUI
The prototype for the Baron...
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:15 PM
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What a beautiful Baron you have too! How did you make your seat belts and nose gear light? On my Baron Doors I used two robart nose gear hinges and the rear doors I used Brass hinges from a doll house store since I was unable to get the rear doors to work with the same range as the real airplane.
THX!
For the seat belts I've choosed some gift tapes (? google-translater...) and the taxi-light is simply glued on the oleo strut for cooling (!) instead of a cooling body, which comes together with the landing light, cause it's going to be very hot !
For lighting please google "emcotec" -> "lighting" -> "landing lights" -> "12 mm Landing light" (direct-link doesn't work) , unbeleavible extreme bright SMD emitters.
Additional landing lights will going into the wings, like older Baron-styles - looks much more interesting on final aproach, I think...
The Brass hinges are the way to go - looks very "aviation-like" !!

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Old 10-09-2012, 04:34 PM
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Ah, yes I think I remember now. You know what, I think I did already send the files to Thomas some time ago, but I had forgotten!! Silly me!
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Old 10-10-2012, 01:12 AM
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Hm.. and now he earns tons of money...
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:00 AM
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Yeah, but I think he gives away the sound files for free. Anyway, just glad to help, and it will benefit me in the end anyway!
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:31 AM
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In fact the Baron-sound file is one of the very best on the benedini hp !
Sounds like a beast within a lot of "bass-loading" !
The only thing I miss is the "prop-wash"-sound, as you can hear on the yt-vid below :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-5ln_m5BVE
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:37 PM
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Paul what was the outcome of the baron kit....sold?......looking for one
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:39 PM
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Paul if you still have it ....Email at argon622@comcast.net
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Late to the party but I finally have this kit, still gathering the necessary pieces. Went through this long thread and collected a lot of valuable information, thanks guys! I plan to build the plane as light as possible, trying to see if Power 32 size motors will be enough. There is a low kv version over at HobbyKing which I'll experiment with 6s lipo. I have some other 40 size planes and several larger planes all running 6s, so it will keep my battery inventory consistent.

I've seen the weird up/down cycle issue of E-Flite retracts in person and on Youtube. Has anybody experienced that with the scale struts?

Ordered some 1 watt LED emitters which I had success with before. These are the only ones that are visible during day light.
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Old 01-04-2014, 09:02 AM
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No issues with my eflite retracts and I have posted the retraction test here:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=moVIypEonIY
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:49 AM
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Hi folks,
Are those guys still in the business? Nobody answer my emails!
Someone can tell me the box size due to oversees shipment?
thank you!

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Old 12-26-2014, 04:04 PM
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Hi there,
today I took her to the place for some adjustments,but I think, she is really heavy..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIc15pCQm2E
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Hey guys,

finally I would like to share some pics from the last flights of this wonderful aircraft .
She is pretty on the heavy side, but landing is a breeze with extended flap range and added Vortex-Generators..!
I'm very happy with the result, tanks to all of you, who helped me to finishing this beauty !
Tank you Cliff for create this wonderful airplane !

cheers

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Beautiful!
Well Done
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:55 AM
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You did a great detailing this plane!! I really enjoyed mine prior to selling it last year. Wishing you many successful flights!
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Old 07-07-2015, 06:52 AM
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Cool Thx !

Thank you very much, guys !
Ron, I'm sad to hear of the sale !
It is one of the most impressive trim scheme in this thread !
Some of your Ideas will ride on in my Baron, the front geardoors ,for example , are made exactly in the same manner !
I've tried to make the Cabindoors interieur like yours, but I must admit, that it didn't work as well as yours..!
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Thanks!! for those kind thoughts. There are not many twins that are scaled out as well as this kit
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Old 10-25-2015, 10:13 PM
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Hello, is anyone still building their Baron? I've had mine for two years and just now started building. I'm surprised about how well it's gone together. For those that have built and flown your plane; how did you mount the motors? Did you use set offs, or a mount like the great planes adjustable mount? I have the new electric retracts and boy are they nice. I also picked up the King Air prototype model but wanted to build the Baron first so I can see the similarities on the King Air without a manual.
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Old 10-26-2015, 12:35 AM
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jvance,
Although I no longer build the Baron, but I am prepared to the King Air to start to build,..!
My Baron is now in the winter storage, no flying weather here anymore..!
I have used a CNC engeneered Motormount, but the Great Planes adjustable mount also should work pretty well
Pay attention to the downthrust, 1-2 is not to bad !!!
The nacelles will give you an idea, if you look closer !
Sidethrust doesn't seem to be necessary..
The lighter you build, the better to land !!
(Micro Servos HV,f.e.)

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share some pics
WOW, very beautiful model!
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Thank you, mike !
I wonder that it was so heavy ...
When I looked closer, I discovered that the rudder and the dorsalfin completely filled with epoxy in the field of their leading edge.
I removed these lead-heavy parts and replaced them with balsa !
savings: 116 grams !!!
All 6 30 gr. Servos were replaced with 20 gr servos
The torsion bars for the ailerons were removed, instead linkage in the wing panels


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Weight is the most important in aircraft. Many ARFs have a problem of excess weight unfortunately.
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