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Old 07-23-2003, 05:53 AM
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Hi,
I'm trying to find out the exact colors of the Fokker DR.1 - does anybody know?

thanx!
Old 07-23-2003, 08:02 AM
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They came in many colors to suit the pilots taste. Should be a site on the web some where that will help . My son may have a Squadron book , but he is bigger than me & gets irate if I wake him up at 04:00 AM. I will keep an eye on here & see if you get more help. MAX H.
Old 07-23-2003, 12:14 PM
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Check Fiddler Greens Paper airplanes for a lot of color schemes. Fun site too.
http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraf...r1/fok-dr1.htm
Old 07-23-2003, 04:17 PM
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Thanx to both big max 1935 and TLH101

I was actually thinking of the famous red one(s) used by The Red Baron.
Old 07-23-2003, 08:26 PM
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You mean like this one?
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My fav scheme has always been that of LoLa from the movie the great waldo pepper black with yellow checkerboard

http://www.us-aircraft.com/FokkerDr%20I55V23.htm heres a pic of it. It used to be in a museum in arizona but i think the museum closed.

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Red Fokkers & yellow Cubs , every one's got one . I am getting some pictures of a full size replica I saw today , will be interesting! MAX H.
Old 07-24-2003, 12:13 PM
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exactly, R101, that's the one I mean .
I'm thinking the red could be RLM23 but it's just a guess.
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Default Color of the Fokker DR.1

Sorry I can't really help with a definite colour reference. I just used the documentation I had, and mixed up some red to suit.

The artwork showed the red having green streaks showing through.

You could ask at some specialist forums like
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...c.models.scale
Old 07-25-2003, 10:10 AM
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Check the one in my avitar. It is modeled after a full sized replica. A little different than the millions of red ones you see everywhere.

This is a BUSA 1/4 scale kit.
Old 07-25-2003, 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by tulip
I was actually thinking of the famous red one(s) used by The Red Baron. [/B]
I modelled mine after a replica built for the movie the Blue Max. There were two built, one the movie company used and the other (the one I documented, likely the better of the two ), the builder (Javiar Arango) kept for himself.
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Old 07-25-2003, 12:04 PM
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One thing i have never figured out is how to paint that green with streaking effect you see on many DR I's anyone know how?

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Default Color of the Fokker DR.1

THere was a good thread along a similar topic (fading/weathering etc.).. let's see... ok;

here it is.]
Old 07-25-2003, 12:23 PM
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Yea Jim I saw that good thread. But the streaks on the green wasnt weathered it was created that way as camo. I tried painting the green once and drybrushing some streaks on it but never got an acceptable look to it.

thanks anyways
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Agreed, I just thought the techniques might be useful in re-creating this effect.

I was looking at a replica that's hangered nearby. The pictures of it looked authentic, but, when I saw it up close, it looked ruddy awful.... like they'd added, but not mixed, some brown to the paint, hung the plane from it's nose and let the paint drizzle I wonder if this is true of the real ones???

I've got some pictures here somewhere, I'll see if I can find them...
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All of you folks need to come and join us over on the WW-I modeling page. It is primarily a plastic site but if I can get more rcers over there the both hobbies will benefit.

The standard Fokker factory scheme for the F-I/DR-I was turquoise and dark green applied with a 8 cm brush that was dipped in the paint then pulled across the fabric in repetitive straight diagonal lines until the brush was dry. Then it was dipped again and the streaking started over. Although written descriptions indicate that this applied to both the blue and green there is little photographic evidence showing the blue streaking.

As to MvR's DR, which one? He flew at least 4 possibly 5 different aircraft. If you're taking 425/17 his final flight, There is no photographic evidence of its true configuration. Even in his autobiography Manfred only refers to it as "little red". It is generally agreed that the red is very dark, similar to US insignia red. The favorite combinations are
-Solid red all over, black crosses w/ white outlines
-Red top, blue bottom, outlined crosses, red cowl and wheels white rudder.
-Red top, blue bottom, white field behind the crosses, white cowl and wheels, white rudder.
And finally there is strong speculation that the national markings should be solid square crosses not the curvy flared crosses usually done. An order from the high command came out in March to change the markings and since MvR was the group leader its' only logical that his bird(s) complied with the order first.

Another side note that if all the supposed actual wreckage from the Red Barons aircraft from around the world was brought together you'd have enough parts for three aircraft.

There is a sub line in this that there we other fascinating DR-Is over MvRs little stable. VonTuchek's all black machine etc.

Good luck, and the fiddler's green thread above is probably the best source of color three views of this topic. Get some 90 pound card stock and build a couple, it's fun!!!


HTH
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Here it is:
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Originally posted by MajorTomski
All of you folks need to come and join us over on the WW-I modeling page.
URL?
Old 07-25-2003, 01:13 PM
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My bad

http://www.wwi-models.org/

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I had pretty good luck with brushing different mixtures of latex with a 2" brush.
As stated DR1's came from the factory with the steaked finish created by the brushes used, the underside was left a pale shade of blue, they were then personalized. Mine is modeled after 404/17 flown by Hauptmann von Tutschek.



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One of the underside.

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Beautiful plane Ron! Which kit is that?

TIA
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Check out the Rhinebeck Aerodrome. They have a flying replica in different colors. The Bloody Black Baron's scheme is used a lot here in the New England area.

Also some pics at their website www.oldrhinebeck.org

GY
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It is also funny to see so many all red Red Baron planes. Most of Richtoftens planes had red wings and the green streaked fuses. Only 3 of his planes were ever all red and they didnt last long. I got the numbers of the planes somewhere in my bazillions of aircraft research stuff.

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Thanks Tom, its a BUSA kit, I have a 33cc in it and it fly's really well.

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