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Old 10-01-2012, 03:17 PM
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well captains what do you think.not done yet still fitting and stain i have to make the back for the bench and the other little seat yet
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:51 AM
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Looking forward to seeing the rest of the crew Rich!

DS the aft deck looks great. You are very skilled at creating a high gloss finish!
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Hi captains,

It's been a while since I posted some pics here so here are some. May I introduce the man with the plan...'the owner' with a few of his friends getting comfy and lounging.

On the business end the astroflight motors are in place with the painted motor mounts and some engineroom detail.

Finally the owners cabin floors was painted grey. Some more work needs to be done here. I am going to rework the door hinges so that I can lower the wall structures some.

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Old 10-03-2012, 07:21 AM
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well captains what do you think.not done yet still fitting and stain i have to make the back for the bench and the other little seat yet
Looking god deepsky!!

I'm still pondering if I am going to put a large fish box or a formal seat along port side of the back wall. I'm starting to like the idea of having the back cockpit look like the ultimate fishing station but there's time to decide. Having it look formal is also very tempting too.

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Old 10-03-2012, 09:57 AM
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I'm still pondering if I am going to put a large fish box or a formal seat along port side of the back wall. I'm starting to like the idea of having the back cockpit look like the ultimate fishing station but there's time to decide. Having it look formal is also very tempting too.

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How about build both and make it where you can swap one out for the other, as you see fit for the day?
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:46 AM
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How about build both and make it where you can swap one out for the other, as you see fit for the day?
That's not a bad idea either.

Last night one more lovely lady came and joined the party..And I won the engineer as well. Some of his other duties include deckhand duties and cooking.

His outfit and even his gloves will also be painted all white. I am looking to pick up a few more of these figures to use around the boat. I was once in touch with two gentleman, one named Oliver and the other Jim who used to work aboard the big 'D' as needed. It was the captain that would arrange for them to work aboard the boat for times when more crew were needed. This happened when entertaining would happen aboard the boat.

The other two GI Joes that were used in the past will become C.I.A. agents stationed around the boat which was not uncommon. Thier outfits will be painted to reflect that.

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Old 10-04-2012, 06:58 AM
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Hey Dauntlessfan,

When is the next time you will run the big 'D'?

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Old 10-04-2012, 07:09 AM
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Rich - I was looking forward to running mine last weekend. But, unlucky for me, it rained all day Saturday. So that evening I was going to knock out a few 15-minute projects on the boat, but was preoccupied after experiencing my first earthquake[X(] (3.4 magnitude). I thought for sure a car had crashed into my house or something. Bizarre!

This weekend's forecast calls for highs in the 50's. I'm cold-natured, so maybe I'll be able to get out to the park and let Dauntless swim a few laps around the pond.
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hi captains she is starting to look like a real boat
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i bought a groupner Graupner Speed 700 BB Turbo electric motor. #3307 but i cant seem to match the number to buy another one does anyone know about this motor
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It is the 9.6 volt version of the Speed 700, what else are you needing to know?
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:13 AM
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Rich - I was looking forward to running mine last weekend. But, unlucky for me, it rained all day Saturday. So that evening I was going to knock out a few 15-minute projects on the boat, but was preoccupied after experiencing my first earthquake[X(] (3.4 magnitude). I thought for sure a car had crashed into my house or something. Bizarre!

This weekend's forecast calls for highs in the 50's. I'm cold-natured, so maybe I'll be able to get out to the park and let Dauntless swim a few laps around the pond.
wow man earthquakes can be quite scary, thank goodness everyone is alright.

cool temps are good for running boats. I am looking forward to more of your updates.

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Old 10-04-2012, 08:04 PM
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hi im trying to mate it with anouther graupner 9.6 speed motor and there are3 9,6 motors one is the 9,6 race and the outher is the 6306 speed 700 turbodym and mine is the 700 3307 im realy messed up these are all 700s and there all 9.6 so whats going to match my 3307 9.6 motor

Graupner Speed 700BB TurbODYM

NEGraupner Speed 700 Race 9.6V (6318)

Graupner Speed 700 Turbo C 9.6V (7307)

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WOW!!!!!!!!!! DF gets rain and a 3.4 groundshaker. Up here in the Seattle area, we've officially had .03" of rain since the beginning of July and our last quake was around a 7.5 that did some serious damage to some of the older buildings in the Puget Sound Basin. Unfortunately, my yard is showing the effects of no rain as well[X(]
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Deep,

The Graupner website lists the following information:


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Motor[/b]

Nominal Voltage[/b]

Voltage Range[/b]

No-Load RPM[/b]

NO-Load Current[/b]

Current @ Max Effic.[/b]

Stalled Current[/b]


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Speed 700 TURBO

9.6v

4.8-14.4v

15,000

2A

12.5A

65A

75%

67mm

42.2mm

14mm

5mm

320g

Speed 700 BB TURBO

9.6v

4.8-16.8v

13,000

2A

15A

77A

75%

67mm

42.2mm

14mm

5mm

350g

Speed 700 RACE

9.6v

7.2-9.6v

19 000

3.3A

17.5A

90A

69%

66mm

44.5mm

10.5mm

5mm

362g

Speed 700 BB TURBO

12v

7.2-19.2v

11,600

2A

12.5A

43A

75%

67mm

44mm

14mm

5mm

350g


At Cornwall Models the following:

Graupner Speed 700BB Turbo Neodym (6306)

High-quality SPEED electric motor with neodymium magnets and a 5-segment dynamically balanced armature. Standard features include ballraces, 1.1 mm thick stator ring and an internal cooling fan. This new motor gives outstanding results in electric racing boats with 12 NC cells for the HYDRO II class using a 39 to 42 mm diameter carbon propeller.

Specification
Nominal voltage 9,6 V
Operating voltage range 7,2-19,2 V
No-load rpm 15750
No-load current drain 2,17 A
Current drain at max. efficiency 15,93 A
Current drain when stalled 117 A
Max. efficiency without gearbox 77 %
Length of case, excl. shaft 66 mm
Diameter 45 mm
Free shaft length 7,5 mm
Shaft diameter 5 mm
Weight 353 g
Part No: G6306

Price: £58.55 (Including VAT at 20%)
Euros: €72.01 (Inc VAT) / US Dollars: US$76.11 (Tax Free)


Graupner Speed 700 Turbo C 9.6V (7307)

New, high-power SPEED 700 TURBO motor with cooling fan and oversized cooling slots, ensuring effective motor cooling.

Specification
Nominal voltage 9,6 V
Operating voltage range 7,2 ... 14,4 V
No-load speed 14600 min -1
No-load current drain 3,1 A
Current drain at max. efficiency 18 A
Stall current 120 A
Max. efficiency excl. gearbox 74 %
Permissible directions of rotation R and L
Case length excl. shaft 67 mm
Case diameter 46 mm
Free shaft length 18 mm
Shaft diameter 5 mm
Weight 340 g
Part No: G7307

Price: £24.00 (Including VAT at 20%)
Euros: €29.52 (Inc VAT) / US Dollars: US$31.20 (Tax Free)


Graupner Speed 700 Race 9.6V (6318)

High-revving SPEED 700 class electric motor with internal cooling fan.

Specification
Nominal voltage 9,6 V
Operating voltage range 7,2 ... 9,6 V
No-load rpm 19000 min–1
No-load current drain 3,3 A
Current drain at max. efficiency 17,5 A
Current drain when stalled 90 A
Max. efficiency without gearbox 69 %
Length of case, excl. shaft 66 mm
Diameter 44,5 mm
Free shaft length 10,5 mm
Shaft diameter 5 mm
Weight 362 g
Part No: G6318

Price: £25.21 (Including VAT at 20%)
Euros: €31.01 (Inc VAT) / US Dollars: US$32.78 (Tax Free)


Do any of the two work with one another?

Bob


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Old 10-05-2012, 10:48 AM
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The answer here is NO!!

Hey Deepsky make sure you bid on matching motors because Graupner makes several variations of the same motor that are in fact diferent. Be sure to pay close attention to the name of themodelas stated above such as Turbo, BB Turbo & Race.

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I got out on my lunch break yesterday for about 45 minutes of run time at a nearby pond. It was a blast and she ran like a champ. This was only the second time to run the boat since redoing the drivetrain etc over the last year or so.

First thing I noticed was that the water-cooling is fully functional at about 75% throttle and up. There's a visible stream coming out of both exits. I had thought maybe they weren't working before so this was a welcome surprise. Also the boat has a nice growl to it with these motors, almost sounds like a gas engine at full speed.

After a few laps, I could see the boat listing slightly to one side. I figure the batteries are sliding around below deck and I need to secure them better.

I left the receiver antenna wire inside the hull, bad idea. The electronics sputtered and jittered when the boat got far away. I had to keep the transmitter antenna vertical or would lose signal. I really need to upgrade from my old AM stick radio someday.

After the run, I checked the motors and they were literally cool to the touch. But the speed control was rather hot. It really needs to be replaced with a suitable PAIR of ESCs. I'm pushing my luck by still using it to push twin 700s.

Only problem with all these upgrades is $$$$[&:].
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DF,

You boat really looks nice both running across the water and just sitting on the water. Nice pictures.

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They look like brochures to a full sized boat! Great boat & photography!

Hopefully Santa will get you an ESC!

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mine is the 700 3307 i cant even find that motor number at graupner so ill have to start over and buy 2 that match i think mine might be for an airplane o well back to the serch
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Deep,

Your motor is the second one on the list from Graupner, it matches from the photo in the eBay sales listing photo of the box.  You'll have to save a search for another "Graupner Speed 700 BB 3307". Check it out, look at your box.

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Speed 700 BB TURBO

9.6v

4.8-16.8v

13,000

2A

15A

77A

75%

67mm

42.2mm

14mm

5mm

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thanks ill keep looking if i cant find the same number motor ill have to re group
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hi captains i started to shape the main cabin roof i used 1/2 balasa then sanded it i think it looks a lot more like the real dauntless not done yet
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You've got a good idea .  Keep going.

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Found a figure Rich might want to pick up if he's gonna go with the fishing theme in back, a child showing off his fishing catch for the day. No idea if Rockefeller even let kids aboard his boat or not...?

Also as Rich mentioned this last year - the battery operated LED Christmas lights are out again. And this year they've become incredibly tiny, durable and bright. Found a 36-bulb 'warm white' set at Wally World ($7, 3xAA). the strand's wire doesn't have the typical green vinyl insulation that makes the wires very thick. These have a coated single-strand copper wire that's incredibly thin and easy to bend to shape. These LEDs are wired in parallel, just cut off any extra you don't need. Bulbs are flat on back, so easy to surface mount with a dab of glue if you wanted to use them for interior or deck lights. These will be fun to play around with. I'll probably buy a few sets in various colors to throw in the parts bin too.
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