RSEA

I found this.. Another 1/16 "Super" tank. A follow up to the Super Sherman..

ROLLIN ARMOUR

Is This there next Kit?

Panther F

73 calibers in barrel length gives this tank as many disadvantages on the IR battlefield as the King Tiger has. I want another Pershing but still will go the M45 route ... even though I don't battle anymore.

Man, can you imagine this new kit is almost 50 bucks? 1/35th kits have really gone up!


- Jeff

rivetcounter

They have to be joking, of all the pointless tanks they could have done this has to be the worst, why not something new as in a Cromwell, Churchill, Comet or Challenger even a T34 would have been far better than a rehash with a longer gun 0 points for effort 0 points for imagination 0 points for research as to what people want, I can see this selling less than the Isherman

thecommander

I agree. Cheap rehash just like the latest RC Sherman. Ho hum..... [&o]

Besides, didn't the Super Pershing of WW II have the counter-balances and the turret top springs? Or were they just for WW II M26s with the added boiler plate armor?

Hey Bill, straighten this out will ya... Bill had a real nice Super pershing at Danville a while back. My pix of it are unavailable right now.

rivetcounter

There was only 1 super Pershing deployed to Europe at first this didn’t have the applique armour this was a latter addition using Panther glacis plates this is when the external hydraulics were added the super Pershing also had different track hangers on the turret side different mudguards and round loaders hatch I don’t profess to know much about this tank but I do hope Tamiya has picked up on the differences and not just added different tracks and a longer gun that would be a jolly poor show especially after the Isherman

manchu9inf

I could be wrong, but that looks like a photo shop of the 1/35 scale box art, I have never seen Tamiya 1/16 RC Tank box art with dismounted infantry figures. RSEA can you name your source?

Panther F

It does have 1/16 printed on the box! [X(] Is it photo-shopped?


- Jeff

bubbajoexx

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=35319check the link it is the new 1/35 pershing

pattoncommander

Tamiya's Super Pershing is just like the misnamed Super Sherman....a joke. All that is changed is the gun tube length....there were only 25 made and only one of the two in ETO saw any combat...neither of which is the configuration that Tamiya has put out. No gun equliberator springs, no added armor on the bow or the mantlet and no stowage baskets on the rear as were on both Super Pershings in ETO and the front sits too high. Why put out a pre production model when the only Super P's seen were the two in Germany in 1945 and a few who may have had a little training on them before they were all disassembled or placed down range as hard targets.
Looks as if Tamiya is out for only one thing...,making a profit on a semi modified existing tank. They have already stepped into deep doo-doo by putting out that shamefully inaccurate Israeli M-51 in 1;16 which they intentionally misnamed Super Sherman as a sales ploy.

rareplastic

What's the source of this new find? I have not received any information at all from Tamiya on either a current or future release of this kit. Although Tamiya does like to repackage its kits into as many versions as possible to trim costs and maximize profits, I think this may be a well done Photoshop attempt.

pattoncommander

This is a Super Pershing as per Diagrams in Dick Hunnicutt's Pershing. #2 is the one which did see combat in 1945 and caried Panther Armor on the glacis and mantlet. Spare track links on the turret are spaced closer than those on the original. Opps..clicked twice on photos but can't remove.

RSEA

Somewhat like Pattoncommander said, this is a model of the production "Super Pershing", not the initial, field up-armored version that actually saw combat in Europe in April of 45. The order for this production version was canceled upon the capitulation of Deutschland in May after 25 or so had been built.

I got the photo from some Japanese kid, it is probably bogus, but who can tell. It would be a similar easy, new release, like the Israeli Sherman was. Not so fresh, but easy..

Panther G

This is a joke , right. Thier really not going to sell this as a new kit are they? Things must really be getting bad over there in Japan.

swathdiver

Looks like they re-introduced the old kit with a new gun tube, tracks and gun shield. The E4s did not have a combat record. The E1 "super pershing" that saw combat in Europe was the first pershing prototype.

manchu9inf

i think this is just a 35th scale tank posing as a 1/16 RC. and in now way is this is a new 1/16 RC release. Just my thoughts.

Pah co chu puk

Perhaps it is Tamiya's attempt at a copy of the Heng Long Pan-Tiger idea...  

WhiteWolf McBride

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I gotta agree...

Some clown's photoshop of the 1/35 kit. Agreed that Tamiya went cheap on the "SuperSherman" but I seriously doubt they'd go this far for a one-off that never saw production.

Where's the Tamiya site on this, we only have one pbably photoshopped pic, where's the backup? Without backup, and with the clearly noted 1/35 reference pic with infantry, I'd call BS!

If they ARE serious, they are gonna take a serious loss on this kit...

Just my opinion,
WhiteWolf

borealis

Wow, I cant' wait for the "upcoming" SuperKingTiger, SuperPanther and SuperPanzerIV kits..

thecommander

Thank youu Bill for your, Riv's and RSEA's info. I know you would have the scoop.

RSEA

That is fricken AWESOME! I love that comment the most! Though "Super" is a given for the Nazi tanks. I mean after all, they were designed and driven by "Supermen"..

@thecommander, who's Bill?

pattoncommander

Can't understand the Tamiya mindset. Of all the correspondence they they receive and they certainly must read comments on the RCU and other sites regarding tanks that are preferred, they put out the Sherman 105, which was not a first line combat tank, but
an infantry support tank, now they made an early M-51 turret, made no changes to the chassis other than add ad hoc stowage and misnamed it Super Sherman, now they did basically the same with the Pershing. Tammy would done much better by using the 105mm Howitzer tube off the Sherman, reworked the mantlet and with the addition of the exhaust pot and gun travel lock, they would have a killer M-45. Doing museum model and diorama work, I have always centered pretty much on Tamiya for the most accurate kits,,.,..however I am loosing a lot of respect with Tamiya. Seems the kids didn't listen to old dad. [&o]
Bill

pattoncommander

Rivetcounter.....do you have any other reference material on the Super Pershing? In building mine, I went a lot by Hunnicutt's Pershing, but finally used a picture from Zaloga's M-26/46 Pershing from Osprey, page 26 as it had a good overall picture, showing a lot of detail. Now, with the interest stemming from Tamiyas new one and looking at the history again, I note that most photos show the oval loader's hatch, although Zaloga's book and a couple photos I have seen of #2 having the round split hatch. I also have Doyle's Walk around which has a very nice Super Pershing somewhere on static display, also with the oval hatch.....[X(][:-][&:] The photos in Hunnicutts Pershing, Pages 28-31 after the war, showing combat vet #2 in a holding/salvage lot, shows a round, split hatch.......wonder where people get thier info. and which had ovals=round split hatches. [&:]

rivetcounter

What next and early Panther G or a mid Tiger I perhaps a PzIV H or Sherman HVSS and 75mm gun or will it be a Jagdpanther G1, these are all for the aftermarket people not Tamiya the likelihood of high sales is low to say the least, if you want high sales come up with something new that is wanted not a variant and certainly not an Elefant you have well and truly missed the boat on this.

WhiteWolf McBride

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Just you wait...

Next they'll make us one of those abominations that Tank Girl (1995 - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114614/ ) had in the live-action movie... (apparently built on a M3 Stuart... )

Or mebbe we'll get the Maus, and the Lowe, and the Brit Tortoise and US T28/95 beastie (could be assembled from Sherman components... )

Believe it when I see it in a legit Tamiya 'Coming Soon announcement, or at one of the toy shows.

And ya wonder why everyone hates people who do obvious photoshops?