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Old 08-24-2011, 10:26 AM
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Default afv432's T34 gearbox mod

here you go

at the start i used a set of asiatam gearboxes, a set of wsn t34 upgrade gears (only utilising the larger gear)

some 5MM brass bar (driveshaft replacement) and a set of h/long drive shaft gears (metal)

some 2 mm ally plate for the lower hull to add strength when removing the battery box







i also added some brass to the front wheel supports as they were quite sloppy this tightened those up







remove the h/long gear


add this to the new drive shaft



install into the tank hull and adjust the length of the shaft to match





some packing may be required in the gear as it is actally 6mm id

driled and tapped the gear so i could add some grub screws

the finished mod








this isnt the final draft but if you want to retain the rear end as intended this is the best mod for that but you lose a fair bit of speed but the torque is insane

i will get some better pics of the whats in it now shortly





Old 08-24-2011, 10:46 AM
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very nice job! running the original plastic gears from my h/l tiger and snow leopard eventually i will need to upgrade!
Old 08-24-2011, 11:21 AM
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very nice job! running the original plastic gears from my h/l tiger and snow leopard eventually i will need to upgrade!
h/longs are even easier than that
just swap them out
although my 6 year old bulldog is still running the original plastic boxes only the slipper clutches glued solid helps there

Old 08-24-2011, 11:36 AM
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This is brilliant! Thanks, AFV! Now if only I wasn't Ebaying my T34 ...
Old 08-24-2011, 11:42 AM
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This is brilliant! Thanks, AFV! Now if only I wasn't Ebaying my T34 ...
quick pull it off!!!!

Old 08-24-2011, 11:57 AM
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now for the latest design

the compromise having to remodel the rear to accomodate the gearboxes



the benefits normal speed good torque

brass bushings replaced with tamiya sherman roller wheel bearings

now the gearboxes are also angled down to the rear to get round the suspension housings but they are fixed to a 3 mm ally plate













the finished article



if anyone wants i can strip down the rear for a more indepth view of how and what ive done
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Wished you lived closer brother! I could use a few of these for my Russian Fleet!!

Again, very nice work.



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Old 08-25-2011, 08:12 AM
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Wished you lived closer brother! I could use a few of these for my Russian Fleet!!

Again, very nice work.



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Many thanks pantherF

not so great on the painting and weathering but im still learning that bit

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Default RE: afv432's T34 gearbox mod

Both mods are interesting, I wonder if the basics of the first one can be adopted using a stock HL gearbox.
Old 08-26-2011, 01:49 PM
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Default RE: afv432's T34 gearbox mod

Hi borealis
i never tried the stock h/long gearboxes at the time of the first attempt as all that was out there was the higher ones ie tiger and pershing
now with the jagdtiger and stug styles out there it's possible
the other drawback would be the driveshaft with the asiatams a 5mm solid bar fits nice and is also the same dia as the sprockets as well
so it keeps it simple
if memory serves the h/long shafts are 6-7mm so you would need to reduce this to the sprockets?
Old 08-26-2011, 02:24 PM
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Default RE: afv432's T34 gearbox mod

Nice Mods. The T-34 is a good looking tank.
Old 08-27-2011, 04:11 AM
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Default RE: afv432's T34 gearbox mod

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...if memory serves the h/long shafts are 6-7mm so you would need to reduce this to the sprockets?...
The coupling of the output shaft is 8mm, but the shafts are 5mms also on the HL gearboxes.
The possible obstacle is the available width of the hull to house two gearboxes side by side and the external gear too (to replicate the first solution you described).
Old 08-27-2011, 09:40 AM
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Great job
nice paint job to i haven't taken mine apart yet i have yet to see what the stock system looks like in mine

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Old 08-27-2011, 11:36 AM
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Default RE: afv432's T34 gearbox mod

Here is a Trumpeter T34 lower that I've been fiddling with. I'm not a big
fan of stock HL gearboxes but I happened to have these around and I'd cleaned
them up previously. There wasn't much to lose with these if it didn't work so I had a go.
I made aluminum mounting plate, modified the gearboxes' output shafts and installed a
brass driven gear for output. I like the low speed and torque. It has been a fairly inexpensive
change; I'm converting the model to the RX18 and a DBU

Jerry
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Old 08-28-2011, 04:55 AM
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Default RE: afv432's T34 gearbox mod

Wow nice job Tanque

the only thing i will say on mine over yours is that no special tools were needed only a dremel/hacksaw

it definatley gives another option for these great but underpowered Tanks

heres mine with the h/long leccies in it now sports an rx18 but you can get the idea from this of the layout


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it definatley gives another option for these great but underpowered Tanks
AND as light as the tank starts out they are really agile and swift on the battlefield indoors. Lead weights really help it out, especially those wooden bridges.


- Jeff
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Default RE: afv432's T34 gearbox mod

how do you get the original gearbox and drive wheels out i'm gutting mine to get it ready for new gearbox and electronics but i don't want to break anything taking them out i want to use the gearbox for something else
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