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Old 05-15-2012, 05:03 AM
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Ok gents, it has officially begun. I received my Tamiya King Hauler yesterday, but due to time restrictions and the fact UPS didn't deliver it until 6:30 p.m. I didn't have time to start on it. So the first few pics are of the truck and following pics will be of some of the supplies that I picked up yesterday. This will then be updated as the build moves along. The only real problem I for-see is I wont be working from any plans, just eyeballing it, as I researched and could not find any three view drawings with some sort of scale on them (e.g. 1/35) to enlarge, I do have plenty of pics and drawings to work from though. I was going to scratch build the cab, but I think that I can use the Tamiya one and alter that, the bed I will just compare pictures of the real CCKW and work from there. This build will be detailed as much as I see fit, I am going to strive for scale-ishness< that's my own word btw. And I will try for accuracy, but not go over board. The decals I will use will most likely be ordered from ETO that are intended for a half track but will work for this build. This will also have the cloth top. alright I will add pics later as I keep getting a server error from RCU

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Can't wait to see some pictures. Good luck and keep us posted.

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I will try and upload some later, as RCU is acting funny again and giving me an internal server error when trying to upload pics [:@]
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Hi Wade,

you may want to consider getting your hands on the Tamiya Duece and a Half model in 1/35 scale. You would be able to measure the parts and convert the measurments to 1/16. Here are some photos of the finished kit I found on the web. It Is Tamiya kit number 35218. Cost maybe 20 to 30 dollars. Ok I will try to post the photos later, but here is a link to a build and shared photos.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3897809...n/photostream/

http://www.internetmodeler.com/1999/.../armor/6x6.htm
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cool! thx for the advice, I will have to look into that. Thanks again.
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Can anyone guess what this will be used for?
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Transmission finished
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:35 AM
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here are some supplies for the build, the last pic is material I picked up at Michaels craft store this will make excellent scale rope for the front bumper and the tie downs for the cloth tarp.
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I have an issue of RC Truck and in it is an article of using a Tamiya High-Lift and converting it to a Dodge WC-51 POWERWAGON. Although the tires used (RC4WD Rok Lox) are a little bit too large the project really impressed me. Of course, there was a lot of scratch-building done on this as well.

So, anyway, goodluck with THIS project. It won't be easy, that's for sure.










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If you want a bit more punch, substitute the 540 with a 600 motor as I did with my Kenworth. It's a bit tight but has plenty of power for recovering tanks!
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I will check the 600 out, one thing I didn't realize was that I need servo's, thought they were included as they were not listed as "required" on tower's website[&o] or I would have ordered them with the truck. Anyway small update, probably all I will do for today, need to get a better radio also. more money lol.
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Also you can look at gardentrucking.com to get a 4:1 reduction. As with anything out of the box it's way too fast.
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I also always put in my vote for the Turnigy 9X TX/RX from Hobbyking,whether you want to save money or not, but they have been on nearly perpetual backorder as are many of their items lately (due to factory flooding I heard.) Might be worth a check though.Also, if you need more motor power in a limited space don't forget about brushless. That and the Turnigy 9X are my two "soapbox" topics.

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I will check the 600 out, one thing I didn't realize was that I need servo's, thought they were included as they were not listed as "required" on tower's website[&o] or I would have ordered them with the truck. Anyway small update, probably all I will do for today, need to get a better radio also. more money lol.
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You may want servos with metal gears rather than standard servos. Will last longer and avoid nicking a tooth when hitting a curb!
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Also you can look at gardentrucking.com to get a 4:1 reduction. As with anything out of the box it's way too fast.
will do, I know willy's customrc sells them also, and he is also going to be releasing tires the resemble WWII tires
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Also you can look at gardentrucking.com to get a 4:1 reduction. As with anything out of the box it's way too fast.
Way too fast? Speedometer should go to 120mph! Highway driv'n man.
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He He...right on Eric! I just remember without the reduction, not enough torque to do anything. Yup, Willy used to carry the 4:1, that's where I got mine. As for servo's, Hitec HS-645MG is a great, cheap, high torque servo.
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Remember, this is a differential system. For lots of off-road, grass, dirt, you may want locked diff.
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i dont mess with cars or trucks at all but i bet you could find some drawings and views with weights and dimensions from a aircraft loading plan for military or civ planes. versions of these trucks are still used today.
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ORIGINAL: Rebellion13

Can anyone guess what this will be used for?
Stripping the chromed parts? I used to do that when I was a kid building race stock cars models, Lol.

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Can anyone guess what this will be used for?
Stripping the chromed parts? I used to do that when I was a kid building race stock cars models, Lol.

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Bingo! you win a cigar. Might have to soak these a little longer though, some really thick chrome on the outside, or easy-off oven cleaner will be my next step
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After the chrome is off, my plan is to putty the holes and make new ones to look like the style of wheel that was on these.
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Don't know if you have seen this site Wade:http://www.o5m6.de/gmc_cckw353.html, has a nice side view which may help. If you can find a component with dimensions you know you can figure out the image scale for the rest of the dimensions
I started a simple scratch build of a 353 so know it can be hard to find pics. I didn't get any further than the chassis and other builds took priority lol

Watching with interest, good luck!
Cheers, Dave
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I have done some more research into 4:1 reductions, and I have seen some guys use an axial transmission mated to the stock 3 speed, this gives it a 3:1 reduction and also acts as a transfer case and a tamiya ford highlift front axle is also used. Works for me since I already have an axial transmission. I could also get a gear reduction that bolts directly to the motor for around $20.00 and drop the gearing down even more or just get a lathe crawler motor. I want to atleast get some more finished before I worry about the gearing and which way I will go on that. I must add that so far this has been a fun build, I have built a boat load of tamiya's in the past and just as the others the quality and fit are second to none, but even though I still think they are slightly overpriced, that's just my opinion though. I will still continue to buy them, they are that good. I have never bought a tank from them though, and for some reason I can't justify it, even though I want one lol.

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Quick little update, Haven't been able to work on my build since Tuesday, but have done some research. I downsized some dimensions and it seems the truck frame is about 3 to 4 inches too long, so I went to semi joes truckstop and picked up the globe liner rails which are almost 4 inches shorter, everything will or should still bolt right up. Also I ordered an RC4WD r2 transmission it is only single speed, I figure I will not be doing much pavement running, mostly grass and dirt so won't really need the stock 3 speed. Also it has the front and rear outputs so I can power a front axle, and it is more compact which will work out better since I am most likely going with the open cab cckw version, the only thing is the ratio is 10:1 so we shall see once it is up and running if it will be too slow. If all else fails, I will try mating the axial transmission to the stock tran's. Ok off to do some more research and maybe a little cardboard mockup for the cargo bed.

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