Airbrushler

what is that in the last picture Commander?

Buckeye36

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I think that is showing the trajectory of the various impacts on the vehicle.

sollie

Some nice referance shot's in this tread.

Here is a 1/48 JP I'm working on with some bang up front fenders on.

rivetcounter

Commander, the damage on the Munster Jagdpanther has to be ignored this is one of the Jagdpanther built after the war by the British, REME the damage was done during tests, the Stug III is genuine

thecommander

It is still shell damage just the same and worthwhile. Regardless of who and how it was done, I do enjoy seeing it. Thanks for the information.

rat now

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Id love to see some more pics of members tank damage they have created....documented or not.

yellowshaker

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Here are a few of mine. Hope this helps.

rat now

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Thats what Im talking about!! Now just how did you go about doing it?

yellowshaker

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Honestly, I am not sure how to explain it, but I'll try. the holes were done using an awl. I put the part on a piece of rubber so I can make the impression of a bullet passing through and leaving the material pushed in where it entered. The smaller holes were done using the same method but a pick instead of the awl. After that it is  amatter of painting and weathering to make it look as though there are some burn marks and perhaps some light rust around the exposed metal. Not difficult to achieve really, just p[ractice on scrap first and try different htings.
You might also consider checking out ak-interactive.com and looking at the instructional posts there. they show techniches on weathering you may find useful.

sollie

yellowshaker , you nailed it , simple as that .

sollie

'karel' posted this on another site. What a clear and great shot. Look at the camo pattern and the damage.

rat now

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Nice picture!!

karel47

yes it was one of Kampfgruppe peipers panthers with the famous diskpaterncamo got stuck around stoumont on the ambleve ,i ambusy to this one on scale 1/16 yes a tamiya and a HLone both get the diskpatern camo on their body's

this panther had also rounded hooks on top the roofsides , peiper had only a few of these early panther G's in his arsenal, he had late's to with the famous G chin also

here you see on that pic WOII damage was not that big most of that time

sollie

will follow you're build Karel. Where did you find the picture ? It's so crips and clear.

B.A.D.A.S.S.Force

A damaged Russian T-26 supposedly the result of the winter war 1939-40



An American GI inpects the inside of this Sturmtiger, notice the 4 nice holes in in the left rear below the grille


Several direct hits & one glancing shot (circled) being shown off by a crewman of this King Tiger.


~ Craig ~

karel47

on the internet, but same is into Duel in the Mist II too on page 112

Ex_Pat_Tanker

Have you got any pictures of Peipers Panthers with the chin - all the ones in Duel in the mist seem to be chinless?

yellowshaker

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Ratnow, I found a couple of closer shots for you. Hope these help a little too.

rivetcounter

The chin mantle wasn’t introduced at that time, both surviving Panther in the Ardennes have normal mantle without the chin and normal exhaust’s but have the crew heater some Panther still had zimmerit, also back to the chin mantle this never replaced the normal mantle which was still in production throughout the war

karel47

yes i have i found one here i have others but have to look into, this was on internet panther 302 from the ardennes with chin , sorry mark i saw more then one foto with the chin

karel47

i admit there was not much evidence but this is a clear foto out of the ardennen , i geuss it was a mixed up

B.A.D.A.S.S.Force

I'm not good at all when it comes to historical evaluation, German tank divisions, who is in them, nor even very good at tank identification ... but can't this tank pass for an Ardennes chinned Panther, possibly one of Peiper's?
Wikipedia's "Burnt out Panther AusfG Battle of the Bulge" ...from the 1st SS-Panzer Division knocked out in the fighting near the Baugnez Crossroads.


~ Craig ~

Ex_Pat_Tanker

Dunno about that last one - its missing the track hangers around the top of the turret. I can't really make out the turret number - might say '111' but I have better pictures of '111' that clearly show it as a chinless.

karel, I've seen that pic elsewhere credited as another unit - The most obvious problem with it is that Peiper's 2 Panther companies were numbered 1** and 2** - 302 can't be one of his.

The SS divisions (re-equipped first?) seem to have had chinless, but I have photo's (somewhere on a bookshelf) showing 5th Pz Army tanks around Hotton with chins - I want to say 2nd Pz, but I can't lay my hands on the book right now...

karel47

yes you could be right at a moment peiper took the road of the 2nd SS swer abt wich was get stucked and wasn't need it then ... his original route was founding to difficult and a bad situation on the roads wich were not made for those heavy tanks

these units get so close together that if you weren't there no one can say this was ... panters or so

sollie

Thought I had to add some damage to the turret to

Blending them in with mig,ak and abteilung oil.