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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    Search tk20 t55 on youtube and youll find the demo video
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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    The T55 is OK, but in my opinion not as nice as the Tiger. It has a very long reloading sound clip that plays, and again just not my kind of thing. Others may find it fantastic.

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    Hi

    I agree with you on that one. Not so keen on the engine sound either but realise that may just be from the sound from the clip playing on my computer speakers making it sound a bit off. Think I might just go the Benedini route for the T-55 and will get the Clark for the Tiger.

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    So did you use the HL cable kit for this from Clark? I am going to order the TK20E-RU for my T-34 and want to be sure I get the right cables. I am going to use a Tamiya Apple with it as I have two of them already.
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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    Just got my Clark TK20E US yesterday and have not had a chance to do more than open the envelope as of yet.

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    Hi Herman

    Let me know how that Clark U.S. version sounds.

    Thanks

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    Will do.

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    hello all,

    I've shot Clark an email regarding some queries below which some of the good rc tankers here may have thought of as well.

    1. Wouldn't it be good if the bergepanzer mode be expanded such it can also reload the ammo loadout of the the vehicle being repaired to its initial ammo level. This would in essence provide a sense of logistical perspective when doing battles (i.e., scenarios) or series of battles (i.e., campaigns).

    This paves way to tank company battles, with 3 x tank combatants, 1 HQ vehicle/bergepanzer, and 1 scout (i.e., halftrack),whereby logistics and recon must be factored in not just simply blasting away. Especially with the iDrive project rolling, this I think would really be enjoyable. For instance, scouts may probe the front with MGs and may take out the HQ vehicles, or flanking manuevers to either keep your HQ vehicle (such that repair, resupply and perhaps reinforcement-tank respawn) or destroy enemy HQ to deny these functions.

    2. As to the the MG firing function, would the IR10 be used for this purpose and would just be a simple swap to the HL-provided MG led?

    3. Variable IR range toggle switch or add-on board to the TK boards to dial down IR range. For instance, if the max IR range of current technology is about 30 m, then this would be reserved for the modern guns.
    (Option 5, 30 m range)guns with > 105 mm
    (Option 4, 25 m range) for 90 to 105 mm as well as 88 mm L71 on the KT's.
    (Option 3, 20 m range) for 76 mm, 17 pdr, 88 L/56, 75 mm L/70
    (Option 2, 10 m range) for 75 mm
    (Option 1, 5 m range) for guns 37-57 mm

    5. Any plans on making the IR hit receiver, such to eliminate inconsistencies of the HBU? A CBU (clark battle unit) with 4 sensors similar to the DBU (david's/darkith battle unit).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCB4Dg9jOBI&list=UUGPlSi3LD9CKkTcV-l4EEGw&index=4&feature=plcp

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    Nice video. The Tiger sound set Clark is very nice. A Tamiya TBU plugs right into a clark board, so you have a quality mass produced IR sensor's available. I think this is very important. The standard IR sensor removes a lot of inconsistency, and problematic questions about fairness around IR battling.

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    Thanks Dan, the TK20E-T1 really does sound good. Indeed I agree with you Dan that a quality-mass produced IR battle sensor is very important. The TBU (and if set to TFA) removes the inconsistencies. If only a less expensive IR battle sensor, mass produced Clark or anyone does a mass-produced IR battle sensor.

    Here are Clark's responses to the queries and my comments set forth:

    1. Wouldn't it be good if the bergepanzer mode be expanded such it can also reload the ammo loadout of the the vehicle being repaired to its initial ammo level. This would in essence provide a sense of logistical perspective when doing battles (i.e., scenarios) or series of battles (i.e., campaigns).
    Answer: We may have a bergepanzerversion TK20 wtih real sound and function if I have chance.
    Comment: This is becoming exciting! A bergepanzer version, with real sound and repair and ammo resupply functions.
    2. As to the the MG firing function, would the IR10 be used for this purpose and would just be a simple swap to the HL-provided MG led?
    Answer: No, you can not use IR led as MG led, it's not visible.

    Comment: So does this means that when MG is fired, the IR LED for the main gun does fire as well to provide the IR pulsation. In other words, we don't need another IR LED for the MG function. As such once the MG is fired, the MG LED lights up in sync with the sound as well as IR LED pulsation?

    3. Variable IR range toggle switch or add-on board to the TK boards to dial down IR range. For instance, if the max IR range of current technology is about 30 m, then this would be reserved for the modern guns.
    Answer: it's very easy to do you user, justhave a VR inline with the ir ledlead.
    Comment: As YHR had experimented this is doable with a 500 ohm variable trimpot. What remains is a consensus on the gun range functionality. Whislt everyone strives for historical significance in both aesthetics and functionality, this area seems not well recieved.
    5. Any plans on making the IR hit receiver, such to eliminate inconsistencies of the HBU? A CBU (clark battle unit) with 4 sensors similar to the DBU (david's/darkith battle unit).
    Answer: No, this again can be easily done by user, just wire 4 sensors paralle to ir port, no PCBis required.
    Comment: Whislt this route is doable, a TBU-qualitywise receiver. If another standard becomes the soup-of-the-day, how about multiple IR receivers set a the tank hull (4) and turret (4) ?
    cheers.../Rey

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    TIME TO SHIP?
    Does anyone know how long it takes to ship from Clarke to U.S. Westcoast (Phoenix)? I received confirmation that it was shipped on December 4th, but I can't seem to track the shipment. I sent my DB3/TBS/RX18 back for repairs as I totally mashed the installation (got tricky and suffered from a bad and intermittent connection - it's a great system and solely my fault).
    I'm really hoping before Christmas so I can have my KT ready to go for the DAK December 29th battle.
    If not, very sad....
    Or, does anyone have an El Mod and sound blaster used ready to go for a KT and can ship quick?
    Thanks
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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    To the uk the shipping has been very quick, under a week for most. You won't get any tracking till it gets into the US. You should Definatly get it before Xmas unless there's a customs mishap

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    Thanks!
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    ORIGINAL: tsull

    TIME TO SHIP?
    Does anyone know how long it takes to ship from Clarke to U.S. Westcoast (Phoenix)? I received confirmation that it was shipped on December 4th, but I can't seem to track the shipment. I sent my DB3/TBS/RX18 back for repairs as I totally mashed the installation (got tricky and suffered from a bad and intermittent connection - it's a great system and solely my fault).
    I'm really hoping before Christmas so I can have my KT ready to go for the DAK December 29th battle.
    If not, very sad....
    Or, does anyone have an El Mod and sound blaster used ready to go for a KT and can ship quick?
    Thanks
    TJS
    Todd,
    For my experience the packages from Clark only took 4 days to get to US customs. However, even if the USPS website didn't show any tracking information at all, for well over the 4 days, for my packages coming from Clark, when it finally did show info, the arrival date into customs was always within the 4 days from Clark's informed shipping date anyway. I had a couple packages where the tracking info wasn't updated until almost a week had gone by, & one package where the tracking information was never updated properly until the package was delivered.

    Unfortunately, even though the trip from China to US only took 4 days for all my packages, every board I received from Clark so far (6), had taken exactly 14 days from the informed shipping date, to actually landing at my doorstep.

    The customs out here in NY (where my packages land) seems to be very slow at releasing packages coming from China, so the last 10 days out of the full 14 was mostly the package just sitting in customs, the last 2 days to go through the Philly main distribution center & through my local PO for final delivery.

    Hopefully on the west coast the customs will move it through more quickly for you.

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    Thanks for the heads up. With the strike in California and if that is of issue, I'm just hoping to get the boards by Christmas. I'll need a couple of days to install and change my elevation servo most likely.
    tjs
    PS: How do you like the Controllers? I have the Tiger board for a King Tiger. Hope it's close enough until my DB3/TBS is fixed.
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    RE: Clark electronics TK20


    Clark lists several products in the TK2x range. It seems that the TK22 to be released later this month
    has the additional feature of eliminating chassis recoil and has momentum ability. That would appear to be worth
    waiting for, no?

    I've been on the proverbial fence on these but I like the features so far. The additional features the TK22 would offer
    would push me over.

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    TK20 web page: http://www.clark-model.com/eng/prod_rx20/index.html

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    Quite impressive. Will there be versions available with effects suitable for WWII German, Russian and American vehicles? ( The most common of the existing commercially
    available models). I'd be interested in several for my models.

    Jerry
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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    ORIGINAL: Tanque

    Clark lists several products in the TK2x range. It seems that the TK22 to be released later this month
    has the additional feature of eliminating chassis recoil and has momentum ability. That would appear to be worth
    waiting for, no?

    I've been on the proverbial fence on these but I like the features so far. The additional features the TK22 would offer
    would push me over.

    Jerry
    For an extra $14 you actually get 4 better functions with the TK22 boards since one function is split into 2 separate choices:
    1) Chassis Recoil On/Off
    a) Taking a Hit Hull Recoil On/Off
    b) Firing Main Gun Hull Recoil On/Off
    2) Driving Momentum On/Off
    3) Gun Elevation Servo Port

    I think it would be worth the extra $14 for the TK22 myself, but that is something each individual will just have to decide for themselves.

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

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    TK22-M1 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QdwzK4vB94
    Nice to see you join RCU Clark!

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20


    ORIGINAL: clarkmodel


    TK22-M1 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QdwzK4vB94
    Holy crap!, I just got aerection. That brings back some memories!

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20

    Yes, I am glad you are here also!

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    ORIGINAL: Tanque


    Quite impressive. Will there be versions available with effects suitable for WWII German, Russian and American vehicles? ( The most common of the existing commercially
    available models). I'd be interested in several for my models.

    Jerry
    Hi,Jerry,

    Sound package is independent to platfoms, so you can have TK22 with geman , Russian or American sound version.

    Regards,
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    TK20 web page: http://www.clark-model.com/eng/prod_rx20/index.html

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    ORIGINAL: Green Amphibian

    Yes, I am glad you are here also!

    Herman

    Herman

    Good to see you too.

    Regards,
    Clark

    TK20 web page: http://www.clark-model.com/eng/prod_rx20/index.html

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    RE: Clark electronics TK20


    ORIGINAL: B.A.D.A.S.S.Force

    ORIGINAL: Tanque

    Clark lists several products in the TK2x range. It seems that the TK22 to be released later this month
    has the additional feature of eliminating chassis recoil and has momentum ability. That would appear to be worth
    waiting for, no?

    I've been on the proverbial fence on these but I like the features so far. The additional features the TK22 would offer
    would push me over.

    Jerry
    For an extra $14 you actually get 4 better functions with the TK22 boards since one function is split into 2 separate choices:
    1) Chassis Recoil On/Off
    a) Taking a Hit Hull Recoil On/Off
    b) Firing Main Gun Hull Recoil On/Off
    2) Driving Momentum On/Off
    3) Gun Elevation Servo Port

    I think it would be worth the extra $14 for the TK22 myself, but that is something each individual will just have to decide for themselves.

    ~ Craig ~
    Thanks for the summary, Craig.

    One thing need be added here is that h/w modification is required if you need Gun Elevation Servo Port., unsolder one resistor and resolder it to another pad.

    Regards,
    Clark






    TK20 web page: http://www.clark-model.com/eng/prod_rx20/index.html


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