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Old 03-10-2013, 02:26 PM
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Were these 6 older Clark boards you sent back for IR range modifications, or is there something else?
Something else .... [img][/img] ... I found something better than the TK20E Clark boards, which I'd like to use in all my tanks instead.


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LOL. What the heck, you can't hold out on us. What are you looking at. Or are you upgrading to the TK 22 with momentum.

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Were these 6 older Clark boards you sent back for IR range modifications, or is there something else?
Something else .... [img][/img] ... I found something better than the TK20E Clark boards, which I'd like to use in all my tanks instead.


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LOL. What the heck, you can't hold out on us. What are you looking at. Or are you upgrading to the TK 22 with momentum.

Cheers

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I hope so, elsewise I'd feel very sad about falling in love with them Bahahahaa
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Craig,

Great job on the KV. Look at what a little bit of time an effort does. Turns a regular HL into a masterpiece.

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Hey thanks for the support Wade, but ....[img][/img] ... lol, my tanks will never be considered masterpieces, but as long as they don't perform & look like total junk, I'm OK with it! [img][/img]


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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder..... And I think it looks great, the details, 360 rotation is what makes it stand out.
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LOL ... ya got me Dan, of course I'm just replacing them all with TK22 Clark boards !!!


Thanks Wade, the 360° is at least something most people don't do, so that's a plus+, & I have to admit, I am doing more than even I expected I was going to do aesthetically with it.

So with a little time tonight, I decided to take a quick stab at altering the stock HL headlight a bit.

First thing was to get the headlight out of the tank, then apart to take the LED out.




I then scrounged around in the recyclables a bit to find some nice clear plastic I could use for a lens.
I also found a round head bolt, where the round head just about perfectly fit when pushed into the headlight opening.
I filled the bolts Philip head groves with some solder & filed & sanded it pretty smooth.



Next I take the razor knife & lightly score the plastic with criss-crossed lines over an area that is much larger than the headlight opening.



I then used my heat station's hot air blower to heat up the plastic over the scored area until it's very soft, but not so much as to have it start melting or warping too much.



While the plastic was still hot, I held the headlight on the back side & the bolt on the scored side, then quickly stamped out the lens by pressing the bolt very firmly into the headlight opening.
I held it there for about 20 - 30 seconds while it formed the lens & the plastic cooled a little.




This was the stamping that I was left with after I removed the bolt. Then slightly trimmed.




This is what it looked like after it was trimmed to size, then just popped into the empty stock headlight fixture.




Here are a few images of it temporarily installed in the tank.







I'll have to see what it looks like after I install the LED & light it up, maybe it will look good enough. I did figure I might have to do something extra to make it look better, maybe paint the inner housing lighter in color, or possibly even giving the lens itself a slight mist coat of some sort on the inside to dull it just a tad, so when it's not lit up, you can't see too clearly all the way into it, but just see the scribe lines & an shiny outside reflection off the lens itself.


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I like the saw/blade you have... Got a link or something?

I have a full size hobby saw and it's a PITA to use when space is tight...
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WOW nice touch with the molded lens you might want to see what a dull frosted slear will do on some scrap material it might not show your scribed lines
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I like the saw/blade you have... Got a link or something?
I have a full size hobby saw and it's a PITA to use when space is tight...
Hmmm, what I show is not a serrated or saw type blade, it's more or less a thicker standard long razor blade similar to the kind you can also get for the Exacto brand razor knives, only the handle & that particular blade came in a simple blade set sold at Home Depot (here).
It was just an impulse buy because I didn't have much of anything else to use for some of the work I was trying to get done on my tanks.


If you do a Google or eBay search for "micro saw" or "photo etched saw" you should be able to find some nice, smaller saw blades that will work very well with this hobby.
There was a thread discussing them here on RCU too => http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10319368/anchors_10319512/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#10319512


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WOW nice touch with the molded lens you might want to see what a dull frosted slear will do on some scrap material it might not show your scribed lines
Thanks ... no worries though , I made a few lens just for practice & testing the process anyway ... & plenty of extra scrap plastic to test as well as make as many more lens as I need, lol

Sad thing about testing the best way to dull the lens without ruining it, I don't have any dull coats or frosted clears or anything that most modelers would probably have at their disposal to do the testing. I'll just use all the spare plastic & test various methods & stuff I have around the house ... should be fun!

The one other thing I'm thinking about this last lens too, "Is it slightly too rounded & bulging?" .... maybe I need to flatten my round head bolt a wee bit & stamp a couple more, so the lens doesn't look that bulbous & won't extend quite so far out from the housing ... hmmmm ....

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This has been a great build thread and I'm coming in late on it, but loads of great info. I guess great minds think alike and all that stuff, bacause my KV1 headlight rebuild to get rid of the HL pimple was similar. I used the thick clear plastic from the bottom of a pill bottle for the lens. Heated it to the flexible point, then formed it over a shallow lag bolt head. Planning isn't my strong point at times, so I did the scoring of the lens after it was molded. It's pretty crude compared to your lens. Trimmed and filed it to fit the cleaned out light pot and it looks OK. I'll definitely try another to improve the looks.

I painted the LED with a coat of yellow, followed by several grey coats to get the yellowy light of an old headlight suffering from a bad ground. Kinda tones down things to suit the worn look I'm going for on my KV-1.

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Craig and Mike this is so cool. Give a more scale look to the head light.
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I also tried the pulling of the plastic down over the bolt head while heating it when I first tried to make a lens, but found I got more consistent & even results, from lens to lens, when using the headlight housing & bolt like a press & die stamping. Either way it's still very easy to do.

I have tried a couple thicknesses of plastic too, & would have liked a little thicker lens myself, so I'll keep this one for now, but may look to make a thicker one later.

Yours still looks good too Mike, regardless of the score lines not being perfect, mine aren't either .... besides, step back a few feet & not many would even really notice ... though with unlimited plastic to mess with, it's good we can always try improving on them without digging into the old pocket book.

The yellow / grey tinged LED lighting looks like it works well. I'll have to think about that as I continue to finish up working on my own head light.


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did you connect your exhaust yet
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no, I haven't gotten around to doing anything with adding a new smoker & finishing the functional exhaust yet.
I think that will be one of the very last things I will address with this tank, possibly even after painting, because I'm still not 100% set on which smoker I'll be using.

I just received some bearings today to keep me busy too .... & I was experimenting with the headlight again, something along the lines of what you used, a finishing washer, but using it in a slightly different fashion.


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What I didn't like about the first, more simple headlight mod I did on the stock KV-1 piece, was that the rim was too squared off in the front where it meets the lens, so it didn't round down into the lens.

So kind of along Airbrushler's headlight mod, I went out & purchased a few #10 finishing washers.

I sanded the headlight housing's opening rim edge so it was thinner to lessen the depth slightly, as well sanded the original lens I had made so it was quite a bit smaller in diameter.
Beside the smaller lens is an extra one of the original size I was using for the first mod. I might sand that one down to fit the new light because I think I like the smaller lined pattern I created on that one better than the one with less lines.
I then ground out the inner & outer edges of the #10 washer to thin it, but made sure to keep that nice rounded edge on the inner area, & painted it. You can see how much I ground away compared to an original unpainted washer.





Here again are a couple images of the old look, then some images of how the new light will look as a result of the new mod.
I prefer the new look, anyone else believe I should have just left it alone because the first mod looked better?












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No bites yet giving me input on the new headlight mod, but any thoughts on what I've done here ... good or bad?

I got some 8x14x4 sealed flange bearings & added them to the lower hull to support the drive shafts.




Now, I've seen the bearings placed inside the rear hubs attached to the outer lower hull, but I decided to mount mine right into the lower hull instead.
First I hand reamed out the existing hole, then just needed a little more taken out before press fitting the bearings.




I just used a big nut on the inside with a flat washer on the outside, & squeezed them in with channel lock pliers, flange side on the inside of the lower hull.
Repeat process for second side. The fit was very tight for both bearings.








The Walterson drive shafts are slightly wider than 8mm, & didn't want to slide through the 8mm bearing, so I did have to very lightly sand the shafts.







The shafts could then both be slid through the bearings & the gearboxes put back into their proper place again






I placed the sprockets back on & checked the track movement .... everything seems great.

Couple of things I am wondering ... was this a bad idea to do it this way rather than having the bearings in the outer cover plate, if this should work well enough, then should I use CA gel glue or epoxy around the bearings along the inside flange area to help secure them, should I add an inside holding panel around the bearing, that is glued to the hull to help hold the bearing in its place?


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No bites yet giving me input on the new headlight mod, but any thoughts on what I've done here ... good or bad?I got some 8x14x4 sealed flange bearings & added them to the lower hull to support the drive shafts.

[img][/img]

Now, I've seen the bearings placed inside the rear hubs attached to the outer lower hull, but I decided to mount mine right into the lower hull instead.
First I hand reamed out the existing hole, then just needed a little more taken out before press fitting the bearings.


[img][/img]

I just used a big nut on the inside with a flat washer on the outside, & squeezed them in with channel lock pliers, flange side on the inside of the lower hull.
Repeat process for second side. The fit was very tight for both bearings.


[img][/img]

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The Walterson drive shafts are slightly wider than 8mm, & didn't want to slide through the 8mm bearing, so I did have to very lightly sand the shafts.


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The shafts could then both be slid through the bearings & the gearboxes put back into their proper place again

[img][/img]
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I placed the sprockets back on & checked the track movement .... everything seems great.

Couple of things I am wondering ... was this a bad idea to do it this way rather than having the bearings in the outer cover plate, if this should work well enough, then should I use CA gel glue or epoxy around the bearings along the inside flange area to help secure them, should I add an inside holding panel around the bearing, that is glued to the hull to help hold the bearing in its place?


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LMAO

it looks Great i have to take one of mine now cause i tried the dome lens also
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I like the bezel, but even thinner would look cooler. I can't find any decent pics of a KV1 front end to get some headlight detail so whadda I know!

Regardless, a great looking project and a quantum leap over the stock HL.

Mike.
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I like the bezel, but even thinner would look cooler. I can't find any decent pics of a KV1 front end to get some headlight detail so whadda I know!

Regardless, a great looking project and a quantum leap over the stock HL.

Mike.
Yes Mike, I agree & know what you're saying. I would like to go thinner as well for the bezel edge, but there was probably only another millimeter, if that, to ground out of the inner area before I start to grind into the nice rounded bezel area which I wanted from that finishing washer. I could grind more off the back side of the washer to thin it, but as you do that it also loses circumference, so you also have to keep sanding the headlamp housing smaller itself so the circumference matches ... making the whole lamp smaller in size ... so there is a fine line to walk in fear of going past the point where it won't look right & then have to add back to the housing with milliput or start over from scratch.

Which brings up the idea, maybe just construct a whole new housing purely out of milliput.


Hmmm, thinking about this more, maybe I should try (or "should" have tried) a larger #12 finishing washer. Even though the back side will be way bigger than the circumference of the headlight in the beginning, maybe by the time I grind most of the back away, until it's very thin & making it smaller in diameter, the size might then be right for the headlight housing anyway. The inside rounded bezel area will also be larger to start with, & it might produce a better looking headlight. I'll have to explore this idea now. LOL


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Not to kick a dead horse ... but revisiting the headlight, I went out & purchased the #12 finishing washers & did it again.
This time is the last for the headlight, I'm satisified with how it looks now after this last modification, & I'll be keeping it this way, so here it is ...


Again, you can see the full #12 washer next to one of the same beginning size which I then had ground down, reamed out, & sanded thinner & smaller.
There is also the newer lens I made up with more score lines than the previous lens I was using.




Here is a close-up after I had painted the new metal rim washer & assembled the headlight again




Here are several pictures taken of the new headlight from different angles.








Last picture was taken with the headlight turned ON





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Bullseye! Looks excellent. Of all the things to do to improve the looks of an HL KV1, this is it. The new lens looks sharp, too.

Demonstrably amiable!

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To make an incadescent light bulb nothing works better then the real thing. I like using grain of wheat lamps rated slightly higher then the operating voltage so they have that 'dim' look. But if only LEDs will do then a good trick is to use a warm white LED and dip it in Tamiya clear yellow. You can also paint the end of the LED and it will kill the beam and only let it illuminate the area. Also a larger resistor will dim the LED a bit.
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Bullseye! Looks excellent. Of all the things to do to improve the looks of an HL KV1, this is it. The new lens looks sharp, too.

Demonstrably amiable!

Mike.
Thanks Mike, I agreed with your earlier thought that it would look better with a thinner bezel, & I think it does ... definitely a keeper now.

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To make an incadescent light bulb nothing works better then the real thing. I like using grain of wheat lamps rated slightly higher thenthe operating voltage so they have that 'dim' look.But if only LEDs will do then a good trick is to use a warm white LED and dip itin Tamiya clear yellow. You can also paint the end of the LED and it will kill the beam and only let it illuminate the area. Also a larger resistor will dim the LED a bit.


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Hey Terry, I had read about grain of wheat or rice bulbs, but thought they might be a little more prone to dying prematurely or more quickly than LED in a tank that will be banging & bouncing around a lot in rough terrain.

Not sure I really want a really "dim" look, though I will want to make it more subdued than the full bright white LED lighting the bulb can put out. Besides tinting the LED itself, I can also sand the lens with 220 or a finer grit sand paper to cause the focused LED beam to diffuse a lot more, which should spread the illumination out better through the plastic lens I created, & soften up the harshness somewhat too. The earlier shot was just an unmodified LED hooked straight up to a battery on its own, not connected to the tank where the power will be shared between it & the rear red tail light LED, where I'm already using resistors to control the power going to it.

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Incadescents last alot longer then people give them credit for. On my outdoor model railroad most of my buildings are lit this way and out of 30 or so incadescent lamps I have changed 1 in 6 years. My buildings are lit automaticly with a photosensor from dusk till dawn all of spring summer and fall. I also convert all of my locos to incadescent lamps.
BUT, as you said above they aren't getting bashed around in a tank so that probly would shorten their life.

As far as "dim" I could have used a better term. It takes the garrish bright hue away from LEDs and gives the LED a more realistic look. They also make flat top LEDs that do the same as sanding them. Just another option.
Love the work so far.
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Can't seem to stop myself from doing additional tweaks here & there, so this time I decided to remove the front appliqué armor, do some plastic notching, & raise it up some, as well as removed the plastic electric conduit & made another one with wiring going to the horn & headlight.
This is the look of it so far ... I might start adding better detailed weld lines on this tank now too ... heaven help me!





The conduit & wiring was made using a similar gauge wire to the size of the original plastic conduit I pulled off, I then covered most of it with some heat shrink wrap to thicken the majority of it coming from the top of the hull.
I just put a curl in the wire where the horn is located, & then took the wire over to the headlight area
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To mount the new conduit in the existing original hole, I CA glued a small styrene tab to the shrink wrap, which plugs in nice & tight.




Here are a couple more close-up shots of the new look. I think once it's all painted it should look pretty good.





I realize the appliqué armor here probably should be even higher up over the top from some pictures I've seen, but going any higher & the current smaller sized piece would start to look odd. Since I didn't want to fabricate a larger piece, I thought this was a good enough compromise ... at least it isn't flush or slightly lower than the upper glacis plate anymore, & at least sticks up some. I guess it might look better to notch the plate to allow the conduit to go through it some too, rather than completely over the top of it. One thing for sure, if I add weld lines to the plate it will definitely look better.

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Just wondering if modding the KV-1 road wheels is good enough with just 1 bearing in each wheel.

So far, this is what I have done.


Disassembled the road wheels into the basic parts for the bearing mod. I have some 6mm x 10mm x 3mm bearings (ID x OD x W)





The bearing fits nice & tight in the outer part of the road wheel just coming even with the notched area in the hub.





A close-up shows the inner wheel part having a key tab lock that will slip into the outer wheel's hub notch
Because of the large lip on the inner wheel which normally extends deep into the outer wheel, it all won't fit now because of the bearing







To make it fit properly, the inner wheel's lip was ground down to be even with the locking key tab, & the 2 parts then fit snuggly again





Things is, with just using 1 bearing on the outside wheel, the axle still goes through & rubs on the inner wheel's plastic hole. Because of the way the wheels are made, to use a bearing in the inner wheel too, by the time you drill it big enough to fit one, most the hub (that slides into the outer wheel) & the locking tab are gone.

So I would think I would have to use a flange bearing & just drill it all out, mount the bearing, then press the two parts together & glue them?

Is there another way using the stock wheels, or anyone see a thread with detailed pictures of someone installing 2 bearings per wheel already?

Finally, will the 1 bearing method I've done already be OK & better than nothing, so maybe just stick with that, or will it actually make things worse by just using one bearing in the road wheels like this?


Appreciate any input, thanks.


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