ausf

I finally found a Tammy Kubel static kit online for a reasonable price. While waiting I spent more time than I wanted searching online, trying to decide how to RC it, using a pre-existing RTR or putting pieces together. It was ridiculous trying to match wheelbase and I really wanted to make the most of the kit's interior, so I opted for a 1/24 rock crawler since the individual axles and transmission are separate. Going with an ESC, trans, axles would be too much to figure out and ultimately more expensive.

I ended up going with Horizon Hobby, even though they're pricey, every single part, including gears, housings, bearings, etc down to the nuts and bolts are readily available everywhere. I had to lengthen the driveshaft with tubing and made a brass cover on the floorpan. I widened the axles a bit, but otherwise it was pretty painless to fit.

The rear suspension is completely functional (not enough room for springs and shocks in the front with the low hood and steering servo), I used studs and nuts on the wheels so they're functional as well (thanks Rudy, Scale Hardware is now my favorite shop). I wanted to be able to access everything if necessary, so it seemed like the best way to go and in the end, is just plain cool.

I tested it as is, it gets about 25 minutes on a charge running full out with a 300mAh lipo, it's not too quick, about twice the speed of my Pz IV, which is pretty scale like, the Kubel's top speed was 50mph, the Pz IV, 26. It's four wheel drive, full proportional steering, 2.4 DSM.

If you guys are interested, I'll do a build thread from here, I wasn't sure how it would work until now so I didn't post it. I works beautifully, I plan on animating the driver so his head pivots with steering.

On to the pics, the chassis, the wheel hub I made out of brass, the suspension deflection of the rear wheel, the battery and finally a size comparison with the JS-2:

Panther F

Wow, you really went to town with it and major surgery at that!

So why did you make it 4WD?





Jeff

rivetcounter

Is there a problem with a Kübelwagen being 4 wheel drive to maintain authenticity

thecommander

Looks good Jeff. As always..... you amaze me. I really like how you did the lug studs for the wheels. Very nice touch. You couldn't have done that with he RC Kubel kit since they are moulded in one piece to accept the drive axle. Next we need a demo video of it traversing Orange County snow. I am using the same drivetrain for my latest RC soft skin vehicle. The scale speed is very good due to that rock crawler gearing. Are you still looking for a Schwimmwagen? Are you available for a Sunday April 6th battleday?

ausf

Thanks guys.

I know 4WD drive isn't accurate, but using a crawler setup, it had to be, I couldn't leave off one axle because it won't turn without power and there's no way I was messing with the bearing setup or removing gears. It's not accurate, but it helps with traction.

Bob, at this point I'm ready for anything, anytime. The Pz IV, JS-2 and T-34 are all ready.

rivetcounter

Type 82 Kübelwagen was rear wheel drive this is true also true is the type 86 which was all wheel drive this was a test bed for the Schwimmwagen, and the difference between a type 82 and type 86 was the front wheel drive, there are a number of pictures of Kübelwagen with the wide Schwimmwagen type wheels and tyres fitted these are thought to be the type 86 on pictures it’s almost impossible to tell

Rex Ross

WOW !!! I would have bet $$$$ that could not be done. YIKES !!!!!

Strato50

Another awesome project that brings back my longing for a combat-car

ausf

i missed this the first time I read it. Absolutely. If you have a lead on one, let please let me know.

Thanks again for the kind words guys.

After messing with the rock crawler, I'm thinking a 222 is in order. The crawler was designed to be a scale rep in 1/24, but the tires may be perfect for a 222. Eveything else on the those is plate steel, except for vision ports, it should be relatively easy.

Horizon Hobby's stuff is as well engineered and reliable as Tamiya, with better customer service, so I'm definitely going to use their wheeled stuff for future projects (I've been using their planes and helis for years).

ksoc

Any additional build info you want to share would be appreciated.

MAUS45

Love those tiny nuts and bolts!!! Looks great Jeff.

Panther F

Seeing all this gives me new hope for RCing my old Schwimmwagen kit.


Just wish the tires I have for it weren't resin.





Jeff

billinmillstonenj

Absolutely awesome!

billinmillstonenj

Are you available for a Sunday April 6th battleday?

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April 6 would be great!

thecommander

April 6 would be great![/QUOTE]

I know we are all itching to battle and see these new toys in action. I need to get thru this first Danville battle weekend first. I do want some snow on the ground for us to play in, but not 3 feet of concrete we have now.

ausf

I put the 6th on the calendar, so I'm battling. It may be against a mirror, but I'm putting up a fight.

billinmillstonenj

Some might think that is a personality disorder (;

ausf

It's been a long Winter...

MAUS45

What part number did you use from Horizon Hobby? I have a Schwimmwagen I want to R/C!!! Thanks, Rudy

ausf

Schwimmwagen? Did you say Schwimmwagen? Do you need my address?

It's this one:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ack-LOSB0238T1

There's a lot in the box for $150. You can get them anywhere, but the price will be the same unless you have a promo or coupon for a different store. Check out the parts list, you can get everything, plus they replace stuff immediately no matter when or where you bought it if it goes bad.

ausf

Got the Kubel all wired and ready for hatches and cosmetics.

Here's a short vid of the suspension in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNshy4DF5xM And the steering radius and speed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIWQ8zEv2ng&list=UUXiX-wttmOhXh4Z_1KC1cww

thecommander

Looks good Jeff. Fritz (my Kubel driver) is very tall and barely fits in the seat with his feet on the pedals and his hands on the steering wheel.

Sometimes I play 'back seat driver' via a mini cam.

Modifications may be in order when that time comes. I even had to cut deeper lugs into the rubber tires to improve the traction on the loose earth at Danville. Your 4x4 version would fare much better. GL pal, Bob

karel47

the 1/16 eduard swimmwagen can be build waterproof, i've been build one wich floating nice in the water, but still have not search for a transmission, i have two tamiya rc kubelwagens Type 82 maybe a thought to do a type 86 from one of them ... going to look into

ausf

I plan on using the same Losi setup I used in the Kubel for the Schwimm. Everything is technically waterproof except the battery, esc and servo which can be made waterproof easily enough. I was thinking about setting it up for water use, but I'm not sure if it'll be worth the hassle since I don't run the tanks near bodies of water much.

I'll probably just build a 1/6 Schwimm for water fun down the road and use the Eduard 1/16 for battle days.

karel47

i think also 1/16 is to little to get a good land setup and a watersetup ... would a hell of a job ... its nice although the eduard swimwagen



did you see this one allready