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Old 03-20-2014, 06:57 PM
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Default Looking for transmission recommendations for Taigen PzIV F2

I recently purchased Taigen's pro series PzIV F2 from Artistic Hobbies. The drive sprockets and idlers that were installed on it were plastic and I managed to destroy one of the drive sprockets within 10 minutes. Fortunately it came with Taigen's spare metal drive sprockets and idlers so I changed them all out. Now I'm looking to slow this tank down as it really zips along and I'm looking for some 4:1 transmissions that will just drop in.

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The tiagen black steel gearboxes are great. I have a set, no issues at all. Also the brass sets are good.. Call eric at imex. He will set you in the right direction
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Originally Posted by gabbyb3
The tiagen black steel gearboxes are great. I have a set, no issues at all. Also the brass sets are good.. Call eric at imex. He will set you in the right direction
The steel 4:1s will drop right in and slow you down a bit too.

...heck I think I should get royalties for being such a good spokesman
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Originally Posted by Strato50
The steel 4:1s will drop right in and slow you down a bit too.

...heck I think I should get royalties for being such a good spokesman
Yes the steel gearboxes will fit in the PIV. The part number is 120024 for the 4:1. And yes Strato you are a good spokesman
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Originally Posted by Imex-Erik
Yes the steel gearboxes will fit in the PIV. The part number is 120024 for the 4:1. And yes Strato you are a good spokesman
Sorry but mentioned steel "4:1" gearboxes will NOT fit the Panzer IV ! They are too high.
http://www.artistichobbies.com/prodd...prod=TAG120024


Steel gearboxes below will fit the Panzer IV, because they are lower.
Unfortunatelly they are not "4:1" but "2:1" only.
They have one pinion gear less so the total gear ratio is smaller (aprox. two times smaller)
http://www.rctank.de/Steelgearboxes-Panzer-IV

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Old 03-21-2014, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by wsn123
Sorry but mentioned steel "4:1" gearboxes will NOT fit the Panzer IV ! They are too high.
http://www.artistichobbies.com/prodd...prod=TAG120024


Steel gearboxes below will fit the Panzer IV, because they are lower.
Unfortunatelly they are not "4:1" but "2:1" only.
They have one pinion gear less so the total gear ratio is smaller (aprox. two times smaller)
http://www.rctank.de/Steelgearboxes-Panzer-IV
Are you 100%? I ask because I installed the steel gearboxes before answering It is VERY close, but it will fit. On the Panzer III it wont fit, but the Panzer IV it does. The low profile gearboxes will fit all the incompatibility issues with the M/L gearboxes.
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Originally Posted by Imex-Erik
Are you 100%? I ask because I installed the steel gearboxes before answering It is VERY close, but it will fit. On the Panzer III it wont fit, but the Panzer IV it does. The low profile gearboxes will fit all the incompatibility issues with the M/L gearboxes.

Yes Im sure - there are "4:1" gearboxes from my Taigen Tiger I in Taigen metal Panzer IV lower hull. Could You send Your pictures?
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In my Taigen Panzer IV I used mentioned "2:1" steel gearboxes
http://www.rctank.de/Steelgearboxes-Panzer-IV
with shorter Mato motors and with additional ZUH19 Schumo gear reductions
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Ahhh, see that is the thing. The metal lower hull for the Panzer IV is something we don't carry. There isn't enough space with the metal lower hull to fit inside. The plastic lower hull sits a bit lower and allows it to fit. I'll get some pics in a few, I'm currently fixing a few tanks.
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Originally Posted by Imex-Erik
Ahhh, see that is the thing. The metal lower hull for the Panzer IV is something we don't carry. There isn't enough space with the metal lower hull to fit inside. The plastic lower hull sits a bit lower and allows it to fit. I'll get some pics in a few, I'm currently fixing a few tanks.
I had also plastic lower hull but the problem with gearboxes was the same.
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Ok so if you look at the gearbox pictures, the one on the left is the High mounted gearbox. It has its drive axle removed so I can easily test what tanks can fit what gearboxes. As you all know the P3/P4 gearboxes aren't exactly fun to remove anyways
The gearbox is not a steel gearbox, but the profile is the same. The only difference is the gears inside the gearbox. I mounted it in, and shut the tank and screwed it back together and it fits fine. It is VERY close to the top of the upper hull but won't harm anything. Hope this helps
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I am in the process of building an L70 and I tried a bunch of different set ups and still couldn't get low enough with regular gear sets so I broke down and bought Asiatam low profile 4 in 1's. Absolutely beautiful set of gears and low enough for ANYTHING you want to build...
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Taigen 4:1 steel gears will fit the Panzer IV without any issues.

Infact they're a HECK of a lot easier to install than stock gearboxes because the frame profile is a bit smaller. They don't get snagged on that middle-front post, which was a huge PITA
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Originally Posted by Imex-Erik
Ok so if you look at the gearbox pictures, the one on the left is the High mounted gearbox. It has its drive axle removed so I can easily test what tanks can fit what gearboxes. As you all know the P3/P4 gearboxes aren't exactly fun to remove anyways
The gearbox is not a steel gearbox, but the profile is the same. The only difference is the gears inside the gearbox. I mounted it in, and shut the tank and screwed it back together and it fits fine. It is VERY close to the top of the upper hull but won't harm anything. Hope this heps

Sorry It was my mistake - You are right they will fit . I tried once again and after some tries with my Panzer IV lower hull - its really very close but posssible. I based on opinions from rctank.de they claimed that its impossible

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Old 03-22-2014, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dgsselkirk
I am in the process of building an L70 and I tried a bunch of different set ups and still couldn't get low enough with regular gear sets so I broke down and bought Asiatam low profile 4 in 1's. Absolutely beautiful set of gears and low enough for ANYTHING you want to build...
If those are the same gears as Taigen's 120085 brass gears those are excellent. I have a set in my KV-1 and they are smooth as butter. Unfortunately I could not find them in stock anywhere.

Originally Posted by Imex-Erik
Ok so if you look at the gearbox pictures, the one on the left is the High mounted gearbox. It has its drive axle removed so I can easily test what tanks can fit what gearboxes. As you all know the P3/P4 gearboxes aren't exactly fun to remove anyways
The gearbox is not a steel gearbox, but the profile is the same. The only difference is the gears inside the gearbox. I mounted it in, and shut the tank and screwed it back together and it fits fine. It is VERY close to the top of the upper hull but won't harm anything. Hope this helps
I was concerned these would be too tall and interfere with the top hull but your photos prove otherwise.

Thanks!

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Taigen 4:1 steel gears will fit the Panzer IV without any issues.

Infact they're a HECK of a lot easier to install than stock gearboxes because the frame profile is a bit smaller. They don't get snagged on that middle-front post, which was a huge PITA
I like the magnets! The hull screw system on the pro series is a royal pain. Where did you get them and how secure is the top hull?
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That tank uses 6 rare earth 1/4" magnets, and several of my other tanks that still use HL plastic hulls use 4, 6 or 8 of them. I get 50 magnets for $10 at the local Lee Valley Hobby.

6 is enough to 'almost' hold the lower hull together when I pick up the tank by the upper hull under the track guards... a BIG bump or flipping the tank over can dislodge it but generally during battles and driving around it never falls off :P

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