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Old 07-14-2014, 11:10 AM
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http://www.henglongtoys.net/News.aspx?ID=12

Its all in Chinese, but the gist of it states that they are all-metal gearboxes with imported copper flange bushings, hardened aluminium shafts - the kicker is that it is brushless, which also suggests that HL will be rolling out an improved RX multifunction system. Let's hope that the improved speed and torque doesn't turn HL tanks into ludicrous sports tanks on the field though!
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http://www.henglongtoys.net/News.aspx?ID=12

Its all in Chinese, but the gist of it states that they are all-metal gearboxes with imported copper flange bushings, hardened aluminium shafts - the kicker is that it is brushless, which also suggests that HL will be rolling out an improved RX multifunction system. Let's hope that the improved speed and torque doesn't turn HL tanks into ludicrous sports tanks on the field though!
I hope they mean brass rather than copper, copper is kind of soft and will ream out over time.
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If they are comming out with a new RX 18 multi function board, for heavens sake I hope
they improve the sound and get rid of the static sound!!!!!
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If they are comming out with a new RX 18 multi function board, for heavens sake I hope
they improve the sound and get rid of the static sound!!!!!
better yet...make the sound changeable with USB input from a computer. Want music, load music; want realistic sounds, load realistic sounds.
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The company will soon launch a grand Redux Ⅱ all-metal drive gearbox, this version Tan Kebo box for the latest Dragon highest profile companies, all adapted for imported copper sleeve flange bearings, high-speed brushless motor configuration, plus thick aluminum hard to achieve a faster operating speed gearbox, and more powerful torque, abrasion resistance, etc., unprecedented!

They must mean bronze not copper, lost in translation perhaps? I have to admit my first thought is that, now maybe the suddenly "obsolete"gearboxes drop the price by half? While the vendors get rid of old stock?
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"The company will soon launch a grand Redux Ⅱ all-metal drive gearbox, this version Tan Kebo box for the latest Dragon highest profile companies, all adapted for imported copper sleeve flange bearings, high-speed brushless motor configuration, plus thick aluminum hard to achieve a faster operating speed gearbox, and more powerful torque, abrasion resistance, etc., unprecedented!"

Cool. They have to mean bronze, not copper-copper makes no sense-lost in translation perhaps? My first thought is that perhaps the now "obsolete" metal gear boxes drop in price? Give it say a year...should be interesting to see the prices drop (assuming they drop and not go up for some reason).
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...brushless motors are somewhat unnecessary and expensive for use in this scale of tanks, and will be completely useless in ALL existing electronics platforms.

HMMMMM.....
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...brushless motors are somewhat unnecessary and expensive for use in this scale of tanks, and will be completely useless in ALL existing electronics platforms.

HMMMMM.....
That move baffles me too. Not that HL is concerned with what people do after they buy, but it makes all the previous RX-18 obsolete for zero advantage. I thought brushless was good for higher rpms and lower in weight than brushed, what would be the advantage in tanks?
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That move baffles me too. Not that HL is concerned with what people do after they buy, but it makes all the previous RX-18 obsolete for zero advantage. I thought brushless was good for higher rpms and lower in weight than brushed, what would be the advantage in tanks?
None that we're overly concerned about... battery life probably being the biggest gain.
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None that we're overly concerned about... battery life probably being the biggest gain.
Batt life because it's more efficient, but the trade off is less torque, right?
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@texchap Have to love translator apps!!! I laughed so much at this, "the advantages of wear resistance sex is stronger,There was no parallel in history!" What is going on???? Very funny. Hope they meant high carbon brushed motors and not brushless?
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Batt life because it's more efficient, but the trade off is less torque, right?
Not necessarily. They cover a wide range of rpm & power at a given voltage.

Brushless also have the fun sidenote of being well documented in terms of specs. RPM (Kv rating), power, all usually listed. Most brushed motors are a crap shoot!
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So, brushless motor is not unnecessary? I'm confused.
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ha ha ha as if they weren't fast enough already.
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We better wait to see. All of this sounds bizarre
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agreed. Could be a typo/translation error and the gearboxes and motors would be meant for their car line
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The original Chinese text specifies they are tank gearboxes.
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The brushed/brushless depends on what translation engine you have translate for you. Google=brushless while Bing=brushed.
If they were to use a brushless motor, it would call for a HUGE revamp on the MB side. Also... pictures for it are posted already, it is here and brushed: http://www.henglongtoys.net/eng/Show...t.aspx?ID=1383
It is the hobbyraw gearboxes but in red
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The characters "高 速 碳 刷 电 机" translate to "high speed carbon-brush motor," so I think they are brushed.
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If you check the link you can already see the product
We have something a little better in mind for our gearboxes.... I am working on something right now actually haha
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Mystery solved :P Standing by for more information.
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Thanks for the detective work Erik. If these are to become the new standard Heng Long gear boxes, and these will be available as a stock item in their tanks, all I can say is well done.

They will be way too fast for WWII tanks, but if they add these to the Leo and Challenger, they will have a spot on set up., Steel, bearings and a motor with Torque. One less upgrade to buy.
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If you check the link you can already see the product
We have something a little better in mind for our gearboxes.... I am working on something right now actually haha
So...what do you have in mind? I'm thinking same motors, bearings, and a 4:1 or 3:1 setup.
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So...what do you have in mind? I'm thinking same motors, bearings, and a 4:1 or 3:1 setup.
Close, but better hehe. I feel like a jerk for teasing it but I've actually wanted to work on them for a while. I will make sure they are nice, I have a few ideas in my head for better gearboxes all around.
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