MAUS45

Ausf, I know these are for the Tamiya style torsion bar suspension. I was thinking they would fit over the plastic shaft on the inside of the hull (see photo from wsn123) and could be glued or screwed in place to help support the plasticshaft from the back side, the swing arm screw, screws into. I should have given that info in the first post. Dose that idea make sense? I like what wsn123 did as well, but it still requires a bushing or block for the screw to pass through. Like you said, added work to make a plastic part stronger. A little disappointing considering this is a better hull in most respects. I like the metal pan concept with a plastic detailed outer hull. Just wish this was like the Taigen Panzer III hull or Tamiya Tiger I hull. Both are durable r/c hulls.

MAUS45

@ Imex Erik, Hi Erik what are your thoughts on what we have discovered about the new Taigen T-34 lower hull suspension? Will there be a updated hull or maybe a fix kit we could install on our own?

wsn123

In the meantime Ive found some Tamiya truck parts made from very strong black plastic with excately 4mm inside diameter - so I made from them a bushing for my swing arm screws. Metal parts would be probably better but I havent ones. I expected in Taigen metal T-34 suspension with torsion bars - this toyish suspension is very disappointing.

Imex-Erik

I am keeping note, if we start to have any issues with the suspension I do have a few ideas already
As of now the T34 has taken the spot for the most reliable tank so far. I have had less issues with these than any other tank so far. I do see a few things that could be implemented though, I will keep note and watch for any issues with them. I will say I am impressed with the mods, I have been on vacation all weekend and half of last week so I couldn't chime in and say good job!

Captain Nemo12

A torsion bar suspension would mean even less vertical space in the hull, also the gearboxes would not fit in that case because the torsion bars would have to go through them. The Taigen and WSN T-34 all have miniature Christie suspension, just like the real thing. An alternative would be the standard coil spring system found on most HL tanks.

YHR

Once the upgrades are made to deal with the flexing posts and hull, I think the tank is a solid performer. Lets face it there is room for improvement on every tank made. Darryl Turner has been making improvement parts for Tamiya for years.

I think Taigen has done some good work with this hull. Could it be better, yes, but that doesn't mean the effort wasn't a good one.

WSN Torsion bar would have been unprototypical, and really taken up space in a low profile hull. I am happy with everything but the way the suspension is attached to the hull. It could be better, and some could argue for the price should be better.

Max-U52

I can always argue that the price should be better, even if it's free.

MAUS45

Over all this is a better lower hull then the WSN or Trumpeter versions. I agree that keeping the Christy prototypical spring suspension was needed. It's just the way the swing arms attach that is kind of a downer. It can be fixed, but for me that was the whole reason for waiting to buy this T-34. I was hoping for something that wouldn't need another rework to make it better. It runs good but ultimately it will need the plastic posts replaced or reinforced. The front two suspension arms on mine are already splaying out away from the hull. So I will need to either glue/epoxy the plastic to the metal pan or try wsn123's process to fix them. Ditto YHR, even tamiya's sometimes need a tweek just not something like this. I am not trying to be negative just a little disappointed. I am going to tare mine down anyway to add Clark electronics. So when I strip it down I will address plastic posts. Really like the drive gear boxes and final drive setup. The detail is really good as well.

ausf

Almost all of the Tamiya upgrades are by choice, not by necessity. They are Hop-Ups which has long been a part of Tamiya's marketing with anything they make that moves. Even the constantly touted, must change Pz IV leaf spring wasn't necessary. The only exception is ABS elevation arm and that didn't come to light until they switched to aluminum barrels.

This is about testing and reworking before things hit the shelves, so not to disappoint your clientele. Dan, I know for a fact you wouldn't release the Dbc3 chip if it had an obvious flaw. Remember, this hull isn't being dumped on Toys R Us shelves, it's sold to tankers who know better and that the first three guys who bought it have misgivings is telling.


Of course there's a price gap between Tamiya and Taigen, but at $200 for the lower without electronics, you're well within the street prices of a Tammy M4 Full Option complete at $500.

YHR

Agreed. I found out right away that the splayed suspension was an issue, and needed to do something to fix it. Erik if you are taking notes this is an important one. especially when you are producing tanks in the $500+ range

What would be really nice to see is you add the epoxy process to the assembly. This could be done without any major changes. The other ideas would be nice, but at a substantial rework If the wheels hadn't splayed out, there would have been no need to look at this.
closer.

As AUSF has said in this price range you shouldn't have to do anything. Upgrade options should be options for the more demanding hobbyist.

Without the flaying outward suspension, I would have had no issue with this hull. Completely my fault, but I was a little disappointed I had to come up with my own method for making the Plastic wheels fit as well. When these are sold as a hull I would suggest this fact is clear Stock Heng Long or WSN wheels will not fit. .

wsn123

Additional pictures and video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtbO...ature=youtu.be

YHR

Nice. That will do the trick

wsn123

Some gearbox modifications. Increase of gear ratio - more torque and very smooth running.

Max-U52

Now that's very, very cool. Are you going to market that? Does it make that right motor any lower at ALL? Just a bit would get those into a Jagdpanther, and if it's low enough maybe even other tanks, like a PIII or PIV.

YHR

These are available from online sources. They are actually for electric planes.

wsn123

maxu52:
I used in my T-34 short can 5 pole motors (Asiatam? , Mato?) - they was delivered with metal gearboxes for Panzer III or IV. Original Taigen motors was too long and they are 3 pole only /not so smooth running/. The same configuration I used in my Mato Sherman with steel "4:1" gearbox".

I think in Your Jagdpanther (Tamiya, Taigen?) is more room so even strong 480 type motors should fit .I have Tamiya Panther and KT with Elmod ECO and Jamara 480 motors with Tamiya gearboxes + 3:1 gear reductions working perfect.

wsn123

short video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc4JOO7UXSY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irSEa0X29Rc

Imex-Erik

Man that is a nice creep and the sounds are great! Did you find yourself some reduction gearboxes yet Maxu52?