flycatch

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What is a real Muslim? If you follow the words of the Koran than yes you are a real Muslim however the Koran instructs its' followers to kill all infidels or convert them.

flycatch

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Wake up posters this is a war of cultures and don't say it is anything else. It is a proven fact that when a Muslim population reaches 13% or more than they start demanding. These demands amount to submission by the majority of non Muslims. Last but not least admit that Islam is not a religion but a cult of death and destruction.

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i did not seeanything about planes in this thread got will take care of the killers

rivetcounter

The Jewish bible also says the same thing the difference is Jew have not followed this for a few hundred years, real Muslims as in ones who do not believe in nor support terrorism.

There are two main types of Muslim Shias and Sunnis, Isis are Sunnis and believes that the Shias are apostates and must die in order to forge a pure form of Islam, not only that but Isis (Sunnis) have also proven that they absolutely believe all Shias must die by the amount they have murdered therefore Isis are as much of a threat to Shias as they are to Christians, most of the terrorists are Sunnis yet preach using terms such as all Muslims and Muslin lands what they really mean is Sunni Muslims and a strict version of Sunni Sharia law.

Steve Emerson from Fox new is full of **** he has never visited Birmingham nor London yet claims to know a lot about these city’s his comments are twisted and exaggerated in order to scare people this is what the Nazis did with their propaganda against the Jews, yes there are a lot of Muslims living in the northern part of Birmingham they are about 20% of the city’s population, in London Anjem Choudary runs one such group that on a few streets tried on Fridays to implement Sharia, under Tony Blair he and his organisations were allowed to grow unchecked, his followers are responsible for most of the terrorist attacks in England, Choudary is an open supporter of any terrorist attacks by Sunnis and Isis his followers are mostly ignored and amount to no more than 2-300 racist nutters.

flycatch

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You said a lot however who in the Muslim community will admit that a reformation of Islam is due. Without the resource of oil the Muslims would still be living in mud huts and riding camels. Money is the rut of all evil so it has been said and the Muslims are the poster child of this saying.

Redback

We stood shoulder to shoulder against evil last century. We do so again.

Terry

rcguy59

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Before they had the oil money, "Bombing them back into the Stone Age" would only have set them back a couple of weeks. Maybe now we need a different kind of bomb?

mondo

Islam, like Christianity is world wide, not just located in one place. Any criticism you can level at one religion can quickly be turned around and shown to work for most of the others. Anyway, these guys who use religion as an excuse to carry out these kinds of acts are not representative of the majority. Like not all Catholics abuse children, not all Methodists go to church on a Sunday then start international wars on a Monday and not all protestants burn women for taking magic mushrooms and dancing round kettles in the forest. Only a fraction of a percent of Muslims support these kinds of acts. For many religion is a private thing, as it should be.

Telemaster Sales UK

I'm an atheist but I'm sufficiently knowledgeable about the Bible to know that money is not the root of all evil, it's the love of money which is the root of all evil. I don't see money or the love of money being involved in this case.

I would have preferred it if these murderers had been captured and brought to justice in a court of law, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over them. They wanted to be killed. They got what they wanted and they unified the French nation against them.

May I take this opportunity to congratulate the French Army, police force and gendarmerie on carrying out a very professional job.

borealis

Still too many ppl surrender to fear and hate (as a consequence of fear) towards all muslims, giving any terrorist another victory in their list.
The bigget part of muslims are neither fanatics nor violent, but terrorists WANT you to believe so, because they need divisions to rule.
So, everytime someone writes general attacks against all muslims, well, he has already lost his own battle against terror.

CaptainB

I deplore the actions of these people, killing people in the name of their religion but I am confused as to why all this fuss is being made now in France over these attacks. In the UK we lost 57 people in the London bombings. Where was all the marching and support from other nations then?

rivetcounter

You know very well why there was no marches in England after the bombings in 2005, Brittan under tony blair and the labour party had from 2007 onwards and is still coming out of this mind set today been under intense Political Correct brain washing the mere mention of Muslim or immigrant would be fiercely met with accusations of racism, blair allowed radical preachers to spread their hatred such as Abu Hamza who was very open about his support for terrorism yet blair only pounced on those who spoke out against radicals, it was America who indicted him and had him deported to face justice for his well-known crimes, under blair London was the worlds safe haven for wanted radicals after 2005 he was forced to put pressure on them to leave the country leaving behind various radicalised groups linked to terrorist organisations. Only in the last few years have people been able to speak against radicals though it mostly falls on deaf ears, before 2005 blairs attitude was “If I leave them alone they won’t harm us” after the bombings things still didn’t change

mondo

Come on now, that isn't true at all. Britain's relationship with terrorism is completely different to France or the United States.

There was no marching in the UK in 2005 because we've dealt with domestic terrorism for the last 80 years from Northern Ireland. The British people had got so used to living with domestic terrorism it doesn't even register any more when you look at the measures to reduce it. Remember the 80's? No bins in stations or shopping centres, public buildings designed with collapsible courtyards, regular news reports of murders in Northern Ireland and those that made it onto the mainland. I'll give you a good example - if you talk to any postal worker from the 70's or 80's, especially those that worked in sorting offices, they'll tell you about the almost weekly bomb threats. My father would come home fairly regularly after the sorting office where he worked was closed due to a call from the IRA or someone pretending to be at least. All were hoaxes but given the regularity to which they'd blow stuff you couldn't be to careful. You accuse Blair - who I have no real love for - as allowing those terrorists to stay in the UK however it's not quite as black and white as that. 90's Britain was post recession, liberal and enjoying not being the immediate target of Soviet nuclear weapons or having Thatcher as PM. Like 30's Britain, people were quite enjoying peace and financial stability again.

CaptainB

I'm with Rivet Counter on this one - watching Cameron and all the others walking hand in hand made my guts turn when I think of the attrocities that have happened over here.
They should hang their heads in shame for their lack of action and respect for what happened. Just because we have had a lot of terrorism over here does'nt make it's impact any less on the families involved & they wonder why immigration is such a big deal now over here. The Brits have had enough of this stuff and none of the main parties are going to give us a solution. Sorry for the political rant!!!! - just out gassing!!!!

wsn123

I'm NOT a Charlie

Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians than with Muslims
http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-h...-with-muslims/
“The true story of the baby Jesus.”......... and others

Charlie Hebdo harsher with Christianity than Islam
http://www.macleans.ca/authors/marti...tianity-islam/

A Christian Response to the Charlie Hebdo Shooting
http://eamcanada.org/2015/01/12/a-ch...ebdo-shooting/
"...For Christians who may be tempted to join the western Secularist chorus by identifying with Charlie Hebdo, it might be worth remembering that we are talking about a publication that produces cartoons about Jesus and Christianity that are every bit as offensive (if not more so) as anything they’ve produced about Islam. I won’t link to those cartoons for obvious reasons, but the reader is free to google them if they can stomach the offensiveness of the images. This just begs the question: How can we be allied to those who blaspheme our God and Saviour?..."

Elefant

You are not Charlie, you're free not to be, you are free to say it. You appear to be offended by these satirical cartoons being aimed at Christianity, you are free to be, you are free to say it.
But the question is, if Charlie Hebdo would have not published those particular cartoons, would have you been Charlie ?
If Islam would have been their only target, would you have been Charlie.

IMHO, you totally missed the point, it is not about religions, being Charlie is not even about Charlie Hebdo, it is just a rallying cry of those who think Freedom of Speech is one of the most important freedom for our democracies.

Desertlakesflying

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Too bad Americas government still refuses to call it what it is.......

Augustus1967

Defendibg Free Speech is Not about Only Defending Speech that you Like or Identify with...It is Also about Defending Speech You Don't Like. I Don't Like Anti Christian Speech...But I Defend the Right, in a Free Society, for Folks to Say It. Not Being Offended is NOT a Right. If you are Offended, you can Protest or Take Legal Action. Political Correctness will Lead to The Death of Free Speech!-gus

oliveDrab

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mondo

The 7/7 bombers were British nationals. Immigration is utterly unrelated. You can't lump a working immigrant German in with a political refugee Somali. Not that either should not be welcome in the UK. Britain's problems are a result of a white, middle age, middle class who seek to blame the other rather than blame themselves. They're the ones who got the UK in debt which is the ultimate root problem. UK citizens should stop blaming everyone and everything else for their precieved first world problems and take some ownership like 3 generations ago.

rivetcounter

Mondo you completely ignore the fact that although the 7/7 bombers were English born Pakistanis they were radicalised by people who were not born in England people like Abu Hamza to name but one from a very long list he is an immigrant it wasn’t and still isn’t a white, middle age, middle class English that are radicalising Muslims.

mondo

He didn't get us in a monumental amount of debt, he didn't chose to remove public funding for higher education, he didn't chose to sell our rail service etc. A few immigrants are bad, you cannot tar everyone with the same brush because they don't hold a British passport or choose one medieval fantasy spirit over another. I could level the same charge at Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson or even Farage because they're radicalising people to the extreme right along with the porn baron that runs the Express and Murdoch's Daily Hate Mail. Nothing comes from them other than badly educated, often hypocritical lies and hate. The only difference is they've not incited anyone to kill....yet.

rivetcounter

Mondo I see you have the rose tinted Labour glasses and probably signed pictures of St blair and red Ed, yes it was the Labour party that saddled Brittan with monumental Debt, it was St blair who de-regulated the banks it was St blair that gave us decade of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, only now is the truth starting to emerge with blair and his get out of jail letters for the IRA, a few immigrants are fine but Labour party’s mass immigration policy failed years ago, there was no Prime minister closer to Murdock than St blair, let’s not mention St blairs cash for honours, Knighthoods and peers.
The Far Right, Nick Griffin and Tommy Robinson are you serious they have always been a joke though St blair did spend millions of taxpayers money in court trying to bankrupt them, after 7/7/2005 blair still wouldn’t admit that we had and still have a huge problem with radicalised Islamists.
I’m no Nigel Farage supporter but he and his party will do very well in the election.

Let’s get back to the subject

CaptainB

Of couse not all immigrants are terrorists - but you cannot argue with the fact that since Blairs multicultural experiment, we have had a massive increase in terrorist alerts and bombings etc. to the point where the liberals that push this stuff have shot themselves in the foot because liberties are being removed.I have never had racist views before and still dont and I believe the UK is not generally, a racist country. I have many friends and colleagues from muslim and other cultures. Integration is the key - when people integrate properly, you dont see them as different.

mondo

A massive increase? Compared to the Irish problems in the 80's? No, it's no where near.

Multiculturalism wasn't Blairs doing. Look at the history of the race relations acts and the other anti bigotry acts since the late 60's. All Blair did was add a few new lines. The biggest change was in 2010 under Cameron. Get mad but be objective and get mad at the right thing. It seems odd that in the 50's multiculturalism worked for a generation who fought and died for the UK, they invited hundreds of thousands of former colonial citizens to the UK without any real problem. The immigration word is being used as a catch all for all the UK's problems however it's neither the root cause or a contributing factor. It's just easier to have one thing to blame that it easy to pass off on.

You make assumptions. I've never voted Labour, not even in '97. I'd consider if if the other Milliband was there but sadly our only political options are a Tory pilsbury dough boy who's never had a job, a gormless beaker look alike, a man who's name rhymes with smeg and a hypocritical former city trader who's trying to protect his bank balance.

Yes, I'm serious about the Far Right in the UK. Where I live in Kent they have a very strong base and frankly they're quite scary. The BNP used to get quite a good turn out but they've all gone to UKIP now. My inlaws voted for the BNP and went to rallies and they're seriously not the kind of people you want around. It's only a matter of time before those EDL rallies get out of hand and people start getting hurt.

Anyway, back on topic as you suggest but maybe stick to the relevant facts rather than look at the problems the UK is facing.