White Lithium Grease, all the same?
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Marc780, I noticed all those wheel weights on your tank. Debated adding a little weight myself. Did you do it for more realistic appearance with the suspension flexing, or better climbing ability? Wonder if it would have any negative effects on the motor life with an extra pound or two added.
#27
I tried buying some of the brass wattersons gearbox through GOrcgo site and they froze my paypal payment (without ever taking the money) and i never heard from them again. So i gave up on that site, and those particular brass gearboxes. So i guess i might never get to try those. In the meantime, like i said, very happy with these - smoothese gearboxes i ever had.
Just got a reply from Heng Long Store and they don't have 4 shaft gearboxes of any kind. A real shame, too, because I'd really like to get a set of these in that config. Guess I'll just have to wait for Imex. Right now that's the ONLY place I know to get 4 shaft gearboxes with all those bearings, and the only way to get a set there right now is to buy an Abrams. Come on, Container Ship!!!
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#28
Marc780, I noticed all those wheel weights on your tank. Debated adding a little weight myself. Did you do it for more realistic appearance with the suspension flexing, or better climbing ability? Wonder if it would have any negative effects on the motor life with an extra pound or two added.
Adding metal detail options, metal wheels and tracks are another way too. Just don't go overboard with it!
Jeff
#29
I got a reply from amsoil. This is what they said:
Gary,
Consider using AMSOIL Multi-Purpose Grease (GLC).
Thank you,
Aaron N. Anderson
AMSOIL Technical Services
715-392-7101 x6099
If anyone tries it out I think we'd all like to hear your results. As for me, I'm stickin' with Lubriplate.
Gary,
Consider using AMSOIL Multi-Purpose Grease (GLC).
Thank you,
Aaron N. Anderson
AMSOIL Technical Services
715-392-7101 x6099
If anyone tries it out I think we'd all like to hear your results. As for me, I'm stickin' with Lubriplate.
#30
I looked at their site and they have a High Viscosity Lithium grease, but it may be too thick? High Viscosty means thick right?
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...thetic-grease/
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...thetic-grease/
#32
Ok so here is how I and Taigen break in both tracks and gearboxes.
Nothing special, just a cut down 2x4 and some DC power. You can keep the standard plugs on the end and use a JST connector (there is actually one on the octo cable there, I just use these motors to break in tracks as they are a bit faster than normal) and just direct drive them. I like a DC power supply as I can speed up or down the motors at will. You can either power both motors at once and break in the tracks, 1 motor with/without resistance (the track and 2nd gearbox), or both motors without tracks.
Very cheap, fast, and easy to setup.
Nothing special, just a cut down 2x4 and some DC power. You can keep the standard plugs on the end and use a JST connector (there is actually one on the octo cable there, I just use these motors to break in tracks as they are a bit faster than normal) and just direct drive them. I like a DC power supply as I can speed up or down the motors at will. You can either power both motors at once and break in the tracks, 1 motor with/without resistance (the track and 2nd gearbox), or both motors without tracks.
Very cheap, fast, and easy to setup.
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I got a reply from amsoil. This is what they said:
Gary,
Consider using AMSOIL Multi-Purpose Grease (GLC).
Thank you,
Aaron N. Anderson
AMSOIL Technical Services
715-392-7101 x6099
If anyone tries it out I think we'd all like to hear your results. As for me, I'm stickin' with Lubriplate.
Gary,
Consider using AMSOIL Multi-Purpose Grease (GLC).
Thank you,
Aaron N. Anderson
AMSOIL Technical Services
715-392-7101 x6099
If anyone tries it out I think we'd all like to hear your results. As for me, I'm stickin' with Lubriplate.
#34
Hey Scott, your post was the reason I sent them the email. If I had known you're a dealer I would've just asked you.
So what's the effect of high temp high pressure lube in a situation like ours? The tanks are low temp and low pressure, so is there a specific grease that will give better performance in this specific application?
So what's the effect of high temp high pressure lube in a situation like ours? The tanks are low temp and low pressure, so is there a specific grease that will give better performance in this specific application?
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Erik, like the track/gearbox breakin block!!! Simple yet effective.
scottlarson, what is the best lube from AMSOIL for our application? Thanks, Rudy
scottlarson, what is the best lube from AMSOIL for our application? Thanks, Rudy
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Gary, for RC tanks high pressure, high temp grease is not necessary. AMSOIL Multi-Purpose Grease (GLC), as recommended by Aaron with AMSOIL Tech, is rated for those conditions but it is still an ideal grease for hobby-grade applications. It has excellent cohesion and adhesion properties meaning it will stay together and stick where you put it. That's not to say it won't fling in high-rev situations but it will adhere better then other greases of the same viscosity. It's anti-wear properties are where it really shines. The film strength keeps gears from wearing due to metal on metal contact. You should notice less gear noise and in the long term, less gear wear. Rudy, I hope this helps answer your question as well. There are other Amsoil greases available, water-proof, high performance racing, industrial, but for our application here, go with the GLC. Also consider Amsoil 20w-50 Racing Oil for bearings and bushings, it's heavier viscosity provides far better protection then 3 in 1 Oil or other light machine oils and again, it's anti-wear properties are second to none.
Scott.
Scott.
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Thanks Scott, I just read your last post. That answers my question.
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Maus i think you'll do fine with that, I'm no lubrication expert, but i think if you didnt buy it already there might be no need for anything that expensive. This grease is designed for trucks etc. with tons of pressure on the wheel bearing gears and drive shaft bearings, our small gearboxes with their light load, just need something, anything to avoid metal to metal contact and probably almost any grease will do. (I used to use my "divers 100% silicone grease" i use for my pcp airguns, since it does not react to plastic of the rest of the tank - but figured it was way to expensive for that - and the grease is going to be confined to metal gearbox anyway!
Wheel bearing grease, white lithium in the big tube, good old lubriplate (i havent seen it anywhere except gun shops in years) vaseline, all these things ought to work just fine (anything except WD40 - which is NOT a lubricant -or the crappy white lithium rattle can grease that does nothing) darn near anything ought to work. Cling is the most important factor because of the spinning so, grease over oil any day, oil is probably just getting flung off after a couple minutes.
An advantage of the white grease you can see when its ready to be cleaned off and relubed. Rather then remove the gearboxes (im lazy) I remove the top, tilt the tank vertical, hose it with brake cleaner, scrub with a toothbrush, hose again with the cleaner, then clean with compressed air. The brake cleaner did not damage the plastic yet i wouldnt soak it in it then leave it overnight, thats all. If you are concerned about the plastic, then elec cleaner in the rattle can is plastic safe.
Wheel bearing grease, white lithium in the big tube, good old lubriplate (i havent seen it anywhere except gun shops in years) vaseline, all these things ought to work just fine (anything except WD40 - which is NOT a lubricant -or the crappy white lithium rattle can grease that does nothing) darn near anything ought to work. Cling is the most important factor because of the spinning so, grease over oil any day, oil is probably just getting flung off after a couple minutes.
An advantage of the white grease you can see when its ready to be cleaned off and relubed. Rather then remove the gearboxes (im lazy) I remove the top, tilt the tank vertical, hose it with brake cleaner, scrub with a toothbrush, hose again with the cleaner, then clean with compressed air. The brake cleaner did not damage the plastic yet i wouldnt soak it in it then leave it overnight, thats all. If you are concerned about the plastic, then elec cleaner in the rattle can is plastic safe.