Puma has arrived!! 1st unboxing pics
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Puma has arrived!! 1st unboxing pics
Puma showed up this morning. Here are some preliminary pics. Will have more time tonite in the shop when the kiddies are in bed. Looks pretty good, but unfortunately some of the AD 222/223 flaws have carried over. Same hubs as the 222/223 which is a shallow pocket for the axle, and looks to be some off center drilling done on this sucker too. Not going to poopoo on this kit
to early though. Plan is to build the lower hull stock, put in a stock tammy 540/ESC and do some bashing to see what it can handle.
to early though. Plan is to build the lower hull stock, put in a stock tammy 540/ESC and do some bashing to see what it can handle.
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This is gonna be very interesting. Can you be a bit more specific about your planned electronics? TX? Will it have sound? They make an elmod for this, correct? I can't wait to see how the servos go in and if just one can control all that steering gear. It's got 8 wheel steering, right? The front four turn and so do the back four? Have you done a cost estimate for a final cost, everything included? I'm guessing by the time you get it finished you'll have right around a grand into it, that sound about right?
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Gary, yea I've got around a grand ear marked for this. Thats without figuring in any cost's of lower hull/running gear mods if need be. I'll be running the el mod board once it's released. For R/D on the lower
I'm just using a stock tamiya 540 and tamiya or whatever ESC I have laying in my electronics box. I'll be using a 4 ch futaba skysport as I don't like to over complicate any of my AFV's with additional channels or dealing with programming end points, expo, rates, throws, etc. keep that for my aerial stuff. I'll probably just throw in a hitec high torque servo I use for crawlers and see how it performs. Yes it is 8wd and 8ws. I hope to start assembly tonite.
I'm just using a stock tamiya 540 and tamiya or whatever ESC I have laying in my electronics box. I'll be using a 4 ch futaba skysport as I don't like to over complicate any of my AFV's with additional channels or dealing with programming end points, expo, rates, throws, etc. keep that for my aerial stuff. I'll probably just throw in a hitec high torque servo I use for crawlers and see how it performs. Yes it is 8wd and 8ws. I hope to start assembly tonite.
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Well CRAP!! Not even a single screw turned and I find this on step one of the chassis assembly. Looks to be impact damage maybe on initial packaging or atleast I can hope.
The rest of the chassis looks fine. Guess we'll find out how Metal Origins customer support is right out of the gate!
The rest of the chassis looks fine. Guess we'll find out how Metal Origins customer support is right out of the gate!
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Man, that's a showstopper there. Hopefully they'll not only treat you right, but do it with great haste. For the money you pay for one of those that's a pretty serious thing. I'd call that FUBAR.
Will you still start the prep, like wheels and other subassemblies?
Will you still start the prep, like wheels and other subassemblies?
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I may start some of the other assemblies, but my mind doesn't like to work like that. Either have everything ready(Mise en place, to us chef's) and off to the races or hold off till your good to go and work on another project. Metal Origin has been notified of the problems and I'm waiting to hear back. I've heard from another owner that his chassis is fine so I'm guessing it just got dropped or something else before packaging and didn't get noticed. If anyone would like pics of anything in particular let me know. I'll get some more pics of the plastics and such
asap.
asap.
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I may start some of the other assemblies, but my mind doesn't like to work like that. Either have everything ready(Mise en place, to us chef's) and off to the races or hold off till your good to go and work on another project. Metal Origin has been notified of the problems and I'm waiting to hear back. I've heard from another owner that his chassis is fine so I'm guessing it just got dropped or something else before packaging and didn't get noticed. If anyone would like pics of anything in particular let me know. I'll get some more pics of the plastics and such
asap.
asap.
Jerry
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Man, don't even get me started Leong. Actually still working on the T-55 as I've been on and off trying to get replacement parts that broke on assembly or were unusable to start. This just
seems to be bad luck and looks to be damage from shipping or slipped through the cracks of QC on packaging. Atleast MO has replied quickly and have agreed to replace the damaged parts, Hooben can
take weeks to hear back and then they still have the balls to charge you for shipping.
seems to be bad luck and looks to be damage from shipping or slipped through the cracks of QC on packaging. Atleast MO has replied quickly and have agreed to replace the damaged parts, Hooben can
take weeks to hear back and then they still have the balls to charge you for shipping.
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To replace plastic bushing PP2 you'll need 5X10X4 mm bearing. For PP1 plastic bushing you'll need 3X6X2-2.5mm bearing. The height on the plastic PP1 came out to 2.33mm so not sure if you want to go smaller with 2mm or larger with 2.5mm? Not sure how tight the fit is with the stock plastic PP1 bushing yet.
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Carson, will they sell the Turret parts sprue separately?
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To replace plastic bushing PP2 you'll need 5X10X4 mm bearing. For PP1 plastic bushing you'll need 3X6X2-2.5mm bearing. The height on the plastic PP1 came out to 2.33mm so not sure if you want to go smaller with 2mm or larger with 2.5mm? Not sure how tight the fit is with the stock plastic PP1 bushing yet.
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Looks like you'll need 2.5 NOT 2mm for the height on bearing to replace PP1. Carson is selling a set on his site as well as a recommended motor.
http://www.dklmrc.com/Bearing_set_fo..._14255264.aspx
http://www.dklmrc.com/Bearing_set_fo..._14255264.aspx
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Sometimes damaged parts can be supplied by Tamiya along with every other company on the planet, if everyone who orders the kit gets a cracked hull then and only then could it be seen to have a problem, I’m sure Benny will have a replacement soon
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I wouldn't dismiss this as not a problem. Not when the cast part has three different points of failure. Yes it happens, but it's still a problem. Will it get replaced with a defect free part, probably. However this is a clearly an issue with the foundry.
They need to do a few things to fix those issues. That crack isn't from impact. Its from temp issues when the part was cast. The incomplete extrusion is another sign of casting temp issues that didn't allow the material to flow. I highly doubt it was material supply.
They need to do a few things to fix those issues. That crack isn't from impact. Its from temp issues when the part was cast. The incomplete extrusion is another sign of casting temp issues that didn't allow the material to flow. I highly doubt it was material supply.
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I wouldn't dismiss this as not a problem. Not when the cast part has three different points of failure. Yes it happens, but it's still a problem. Will it get replaced with a defect free part, probably. However this is a clearly an issue with the foundry.
They need to do a few things to fix those issues. That crack isn't from impact. Its from temp issues when the part was cast. The incomplete extrusion is another sign of casting temp issues that didn't allow the material to flow. I highly doubt it was material supply.
They need to do a few things to fix those issues. That crack isn't from impact. Its from temp issues when the part was cast. The incomplete extrusion is another sign of casting temp issues that didn't allow the material to flow. I highly doubt it was material supply.
My fear has been and remains zinc rot, with all the die cast parts in the 1/16 hobby I hope the alloy QC is top notch.
Particularly as I have two of these things winging their way over to me soon...
Jerry
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Jerry, I hope your units are good to go. I, like you have the need / want for 2 and I very much want this model to be a success. If it is successful, this could be the beginning of some very creative kits.