Opinions needed for a Jagdpanther
07-23-2015, 06:27 AM
#26
Or if you really want to go cheap, grab one of these and slap the Taigen Steel gears in it. Having the gears up front reduces the need for adding weight.
http://www.amazon.com/JAGDPanther-Ve...ng+jagdpanther
Oh, and there are two easy ways of removing track recoil.
Either wire in a second RX-18, or plug one of these in.
http://rctanksaustralia.com/shop/ind...roducts_id=259
http://www.amazon.com/JAGDPanther-Ve...ng+jagdpanther
Oh, and there are two easy ways of removing track recoil.
Either wire in a second RX-18, or plug one of these in.
http://rctanksaustralia.com/shop/ind...roducts_id=259
07-23-2015, 08:41 AM
#29
My thoughts are, why buy a F1 race car if there is no track for me to race people with?
That's why I buy HL and Taigen tanks. They are like buying a Dodge (HL) or a Ford (Taigen) pickup. You can drive them around and use them just about anywhere, where as the F1 race car (Tamiya) needs a track and people to race with to really have fun.
That's why I buy HL and Taigen tanks. They are like buying a Dodge (HL) or a Ford (Taigen) pickup. You can drive them around and use them just about anywhere, where as the F1 race car (Tamiya) needs a track and people to race with to really have fun.
What a load of rubbish,
Me and John (Pcomm 1) sometimes don’t see eye to eye on things but I have to 100% agree with everything he says in this instance, sorry John normal service will resume shortly.
Cheap is chap and it will always be cheap regardless of how much you spend on it, if you want to buy a cheap Heng Long then go ahead but don’t ask people to tell you it’s as good or better than a Tamiya because it isn’t, how old are you 14
07-23-2015, 09:36 AM
#30
What a load of rubbish,
Me and John (Pcomm 1) sometimes don’t see eye to eye on things but I have to 100% agree with everything he says in this instance, sorry John normal service will resume shortly.
Cheap is chap and it will always be cheap regardless of how much you spend on it, if you want to buy a cheap Heng Long then go ahead but don’t ask people to tell you it’s as good or better than a Tamiya because it isn’t, how old are you 14
Me and John (Pcomm 1) sometimes don’t see eye to eye on things but I have to 100% agree with everything he says in this instance, sorry John normal service will resume shortly.
Cheap is chap and it will always be cheap regardless of how much you spend on it, if you want to buy a cheap Heng Long then go ahead but don’t ask people to tell you it’s as good or better than a Tamiya because it isn’t, how old are you 14
If you had paid attention to Ryan's posts, you would have known that he wanted a tank to drive in his back yard to shoot stuff with BB's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but tamiya tanks don't have airsoft, correct? Then that is clearly not the best option for him.
Also, there are more brands then just HL and Tamiya.
Last edited by Roboticus_Prime; 07-23-2015 at 04:59 PM.
07-23-2015, 09:43 AM
#31
Why the cheap shots guys? The guy has made it quite clear he doesn't want to spend a lot of money. He knows he is not going to get the best, he wants to spend less than $500 but wants to get as good as he can get for that price. What is so hard to understand about that?
So within that budget lets give him the best advice we can shall we?
For IR battle I personally would look for the Taigen lower, HL upper with the IR set up and regular HL apple, Clark board with upgraded emitter, servo recoil, upgrade the speaker at your local electronics store, add a TARR 1 smoker and it will come in under the $500 mark.
Get yourself a Turnigy 9X for like $120 bucks and when you buy more tanks in the future you can run them all on that one radio.
And in case you are wondering, yes, I have this set up... :-)
If you want BB just substitute HL BB upper for the IR set up. :-)
So within that budget lets give him the best advice we can shall we?
For IR battle I personally would look for the Taigen lower, HL upper with the IR set up and regular HL apple, Clark board with upgraded emitter, servo recoil, upgrade the speaker at your local electronics store, add a TARR 1 smoker and it will come in under the $500 mark.
Get yourself a Turnigy 9X for like $120 bucks and when you buy more tanks in the future you can run them all on that one radio.
And in case you are wondering, yes, I have this set up... :-)
If you want BB just substitute HL BB upper for the IR set up. :-)
Last edited by dgsselkirk; 07-23-2015 at 09:45 AM.
07-23-2015, 10:57 AM
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dgsselkirk thank you!
And I went ahead and made the decision on going with a Taigen tank for now. My experience with my buddies taigen Tiger that I paid Ted has been great. It drives wonders around my HL Pershing. I do appreciate all the advice, but some people just don't seem to grasp things about budget and that I am not doing battles.
And I went ahead and made the decision on going with a Taigen tank for now. My experience with my buddies taigen Tiger that I paid Ted has been great. It drives wonders around my HL Pershing. I do appreciate all the advice, but some people just don't seem to grasp things about budget and that I am not doing battles.
07-23-2015, 11:58 AM
#33
We ALL KNOW about budgets... that's why it's called a hobby. 
If not, it's called a business.
Jeff
If not, it's called a business.
Jeff
07-23-2015, 12:21 PM
#34
You seem to be a guy who wants a good scale representation of a tank, specifically a JP. You mentioned you wanted one that'll run well. You also detail your stuff very well and mentioned you didn't want to spend $1000. That's what everyone reacted to.
If you want a scale rep of a JP, you'll need traverse. If you want reliability, with a hobby grade Tx/Rx (probably the best 2 stick surface radio available), your best deal is still Tamiya.
The comparison of Tamiya to F1 is off base. The value of Tamiya isn't in just IR. It can go anywhere, not on specific tracks. A better comparison would be Dodge to Mercedes. They both go the same places, just one does it a heck of a lot nicer. Doesn't mean you need the Benz, but if it was just a few bucks more than a Dodge, would you still but a Dodge?
Again, it's no big deal to anyone what you buy, it'll all look great from my house.
But if you are only interested in airsoft, then the question should have been phrased which is the better JP, HL or Taigen.
And by the way, I had both my Tamiyas for about 8 years before I bought a TBU. Once I did, I never looked back. It's an insane boost to the enjoyment of these things, even if it's just two in a backyard. Never say never.
Me and my boys would go to a field a fly some foam ultra micros around. We'd do it for about 20 minutes or so, then get bored and head home. Then one day we came up with a game where we were strafing each other. We had so much fun, we'd do that for hours, only going home after after it was too dark or too damaged. Tanks are the same, it's neat to drive for a few minutes, but that gets old. Battles, especially one on ones, are crazy. I had to grind the friction points off the Tx sticks because we were cutting our fingers fighting in the backyard. A Tiger I vs a M4 amongst a bunch of obstacles is a heck of a lot of fun. Sherman gets to fire faster, Tiger takes more damage. Best or smartest man wins.
Remember, as RC tankers, we are all the rented mules of RC. We need to stick together and drive on...
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07-23-2015, 01:29 PM
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One of the pushing factors is that my buddy has an airsoft taigen(the one I pained) and found out my buddy that works at the hobby store does as well. They have talked about possibly converting them to be able to IR battle. And I also found out a local racetrack also started selling the Taigen tanks as well and is trying to get people to ONLY go with IR. Once or if they get enough people they will do some batlles on their offroad track. Lame compared to most but its something, and it will all be taigen based......IF it happens.
That and I almost came home with a sherman instead....lol
That and I almost came home with a sherman instead....lol
07-23-2015, 01:38 PM
#36
The NEAD events I've gone to are a few guys surrounding a pile of dirt and eating pizza. Not bad a bad way to spend a weekend afternoon. Trust me, even the two guys you know fighting amongst a bunch of boxes will get your heart beating.
Provided all components work as they should (Only tried HL IR once and it blew).
IR for tanks, leave the plinking to air rifles.
Me and the boys have airsoft too, just in repros of Thompsons and MP40s. Of course you don't get welts from airsoft tanks, but you can't unload a mag into a snow-bunker either.
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07-23-2015, 02:40 PM
#37
I'm glad you're happy with your decision, but don't sell the advice short that it was missed about non-battling and budget.
You seem to be a guy who wants a good scale representation of a tank, specifically a JP. You mentioned you wanted one that'll run well. You also detail your stuff very well and mentioned you didn't want to spend $1000. That's what everyone reacted to.
If you want a scale rep of a JP, you'll need traverse. If you want reliability, with a hobby grade Tx/Rx (probably the best 2 stick surface radio available), your best deal is still Tamiya.
The comparison of Tamiya to F1 is off base. The value of Tamiya isn't in just IR. It can go anywhere, not on specific tracks. A better comparison would be Dodge to Mercedes. They both go the same places, just one does it a heck of a lot nicer. Doesn't mean you need the Benz, but if it was just a few bucks more than a Dodge, would you still but a Dodge?
Again, it's no big deal to anyone what you buy, it'll all look great from my house.
But if you are only interested in airsoft, then the question should have been phrased which is the better JP, HL or Taigen.
And by the way, I had both my Tamiyas for about 8 years before I bought a TBU. Once I did, I never looked back. It's an insane boost to the enjoyment of these things, even if it's just two in a backyard. Never say never.
Me and my boys would go to a field a fly some foam ultra micros around. We'd do it for about 20 minutes or so, then get bored and head home. Then one day we came up with a game where we were strafing each other. We had so much fun, we'd do that for hours, only going home after after it was too dark or too damaged. Tanks are the same, it's neat to drive for a few minutes, but that gets old. Battles, especially one on ones, are crazy. I had to grind the friction points off the Tx sticks because we were cutting our fingers fighting in the backyard. A Tiger I vs a M4 amongst a bunch of obstacles is a heck of a lot of fun. Sherman gets to fire faster, Tiger takes more damage. Best or smartest man wins.
Remember, as RC tankers, we are all the rented mules of RC. We need to stick together and drive on...
You seem to be a guy who wants a good scale representation of a tank, specifically a JP. You mentioned you wanted one that'll run well. You also detail your stuff very well and mentioned you didn't want to spend $1000. That's what everyone reacted to.
If you want a scale rep of a JP, you'll need traverse. If you want reliability, with a hobby grade Tx/Rx (probably the best 2 stick surface radio available), your best deal is still Tamiya.
The comparison of Tamiya to F1 is off base. The value of Tamiya isn't in just IR. It can go anywhere, not on specific tracks. A better comparison would be Dodge to Mercedes. They both go the same places, just one does it a heck of a lot nicer. Doesn't mean you need the Benz, but if it was just a few bucks more than a Dodge, would you still but a Dodge?
Again, it's no big deal to anyone what you buy, it'll all look great from my house.
But if you are only interested in airsoft, then the question should have been phrased which is the better JP, HL or Taigen.
And by the way, I had both my Tamiyas for about 8 years before I bought a TBU. Once I did, I never looked back. It's an insane boost to the enjoyment of these things, even if it's just two in a backyard. Never say never.
Me and my boys would go to a field a fly some foam ultra micros around. We'd do it for about 20 minutes or so, then get bored and head home. Then one day we came up with a game where we were strafing each other. We had so much fun, we'd do that for hours, only going home after after it was too dark or too damaged. Tanks are the same, it's neat to drive for a few minutes, but that gets old. Battles, especially one on ones, are crazy. I had to grind the friction points off the Tx sticks because we were cutting our fingers fighting in the backyard. A Tiger I vs a M4 amongst a bunch of obstacles is a heck of a lot of fun. Sherman gets to fire faster, Tiger takes more damage. Best or smartest man wins.
Remember, as RC tankers, we are all the rented mules of RC. We need to stick together and drive on...
i kind of like some Dodges...LOL
07-23-2015, 03:12 PM
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07-23-2015, 03:52 PM
#39
Some modification? Any resemblance between that car and the factory version is purely coincidental. New frame, new front end, new rear, different brakes (4 tiny drums ain't stopping that one), body altered, rims, tires, if it runs, it has a roll cage, plus all the engine work, trans, most likely a 4 speed, etc. It's not exactly a can of yellow paint on Grandma's old church goer.
I used to restore 60s Impalas. If that car was done even remotely right, it cost as much as a new Benz. If it's just cosmetic, then it's junk.
07-23-2015, 04:37 PM
#40
You should have just stated up front you didn't want a Tamiya even if it came under $1,000. It would have saved guys time trying to recommend it to you.
I don't think that a working track tensioner was mentioned here yet. I don't know some of the Jagdpanther offerings well, but if it does not have a track tensioner, it will not run well. Or any tank for that matter. You will have more problems than pleasure making sure you don't throw a track just making a turn, or driving on cambered terrain. Even if you don't immediately have a problem, you will encounter it later, as tracks will stretch as you use them.
I would get the cheapest possible Jagdpanther ($130), and purchase the Asiatam Panther lower hull which comes with hardened gearboxes, metal roadwheels, torsion bar suspension, and track tensioners. It costs over $300 for the upgrade but does what it says on the tin. Run the stock RX18 electronics till they go poof, they are cheap to replace, and when your local guys get their IR act together, get the Clark or IBU2 boards.
I don't think that a working track tensioner was mentioned here yet. I don't know some of the Jagdpanther offerings well, but if it does not have a track tensioner, it will not run well. Or any tank for that matter. You will have more problems than pleasure making sure you don't throw a track just making a turn, or driving on cambered terrain. Even if you don't immediately have a problem, you will encounter it later, as tracks will stretch as you use them.
I would get the cheapest possible Jagdpanther ($130), and purchase the Asiatam Panther lower hull which comes with hardened gearboxes, metal roadwheels, torsion bar suspension, and track tensioners. It costs over $300 for the upgrade but does what it says on the tin. Run the stock RX18 electronics till they go poof, they are cheap to replace, and when your local guys get their IR act together, get the Clark or IBU2 boards.
07-23-2015, 05:04 PM
#41
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Some modification? Any resemblance between that car and the factory version is purely coincidental. New frame, new front end, new rear, different brakes (4 tiny drums ain't stopping that one), body altered, rims, tires, if it runs, it has a roll cage, plus all the engine work, trans, most likely a 4 speed, etc. It's not exactly a can of yellow paint on Grandma's old church goer.
I used to restore 60s Impalas. If that car was done even remotely right, it cost as much as a new Benz. If it's just cosmetic, then it's junk.
Some modification? Any resemblance between that car and the factory version is purely coincidental. New frame, new front end, new rear, different brakes (4 tiny drums ain't stopping that one), body altered, rims, tires, if it runs, it has a roll cage, plus all the engine work, trans, most likely a 4 speed, etc. It's not exactly a can of yellow paint on Grandma's old church goer.
I used to restore 60s Impalas. If that car was done even remotely right, it cost as much as a new Benz. If it's just cosmetic, then it's junk.
Sorry for derailing your thread Ryan.
07-24-2015, 05:59 AM
#43
At least that is how it is for me! My gf does not enjoy any of my RC habits since I got the microquad stuck in her hair. Since then I must watch what I spend!
07-24-2015, 07:20 AM
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This is soooooo true. But to be honest if we didn't have a budget we wouldn't need to sell it all right? I think business hobbies are mainly just to provide more funding for personal hobbies At least that is how it is for me! My gf does not enjoy any of my RC habits since I got the microquad stuck in her hair. Since then I must watch what I spend!
At least that is how it is for me! My gf does not enjoy any of my RC habits since I got the microquad stuck in her hair. Since then I must watch what I spend!
07-24-2015, 08:12 AM
#47
Yes, it does. I also have to let her subscribe to goofy things like handmade monthly fingernail polish and more. I have however managed to convince her I need a new desk in our gaming room for more hobbies so I think I am finally wearing her down. Now if I could only get her to FPV it would be much nicer, she gets motion sickness so she wont even put on my goggles.
07-24-2015, 08:39 AM
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