Dragon Wagon conversion
#51
Hawt damn this is looking great!
'Nuff said as everything said earlier fits!
Jeff
'Nuff said as everything said earlier fits!
Jeff
#52
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Help !!! Everybody knows that the rear axles on a Dragon Wagon are operated with a bicycle type chain drive with sprockets. I have seen photos of this chain drive on models in various scales ---- including 1/16 models on this forum. I have looked everywhere I can think of to find out if there is bicycle chain available in a size that would work on a 1/16 M26. I have seen some jewelry that is made to look like bike chain (bracelets, necklaces, etc.) But it is too big and expensive to even consider.
There are a number of postings of M26 scratch build threads on this forum, and if anybody could help on a source of supply, I would be grateful for the info. I have rigged up my model with small link type chain, but I'm not real happy with it and hope there is a better way.
rex
There are a number of postings of M26 scratch build threads on this forum, and if anybody could help on a source of supply, I would be grateful for the info. I have rigged up my model with small link type chain, but I'm not real happy with it and hope there is a better way.
rex
#54
#55
Kyosho also made some really small chain for R/C motorcycles and such:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyosho-GP15-...QAAOSwx-9Wz11x
Finding the sprockets might be an issue though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyosho-GP15-...QAAOSwx-9Wz11x
Finding the sprockets might be an issue though.
#56
Thread Starter
Guessing way too big?
https://www.servocity.com/html/plast...l#.VuMBY_krK00
https://www.servocity.com/html/plast...l#.VuMBY_krK00
WOW! Thanks for that source!!!!
I took a quick look at the .1227 chain and the sprockets for it and I think Servocity has the answer !!!!!!!!!! Now ya got me all fired up! That chain and sprockets would work for making this M26 possible as a simple R/C project. I think I can get what I need for about $25 or $30 and make this a runner. I wish I had planned better before I started and knew what I know now.
This is the Mickey Mouse thing I did to see if it could be good enough for a static shelf queen. I'm embarrassed to post this photo.
rex
#58
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#59
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When I made the Bruder trailer longer and wider I just figured I would reuse the support frame that would swing down to keep it level when it was not coupled to the tractor. I widened that item with some plastic parts and figured that it was a done deal. But it didn't look right so I built the folding support rig that was more like the real one, and was in the correct position up forward ---- not in the middle of the trailer bed.
rex
rex
#60
Thread Starter
Guessing way too big?
https://www.servocity.com/html/plast...l#.VuMBY_krK00
https://www.servocity.com/html/plast...l#.VuMBY_krK00
I got the chain for my M26 this afternoon. When I opened the box I felt like a kid on Christmas morning. The chain and sprockets I got are the perfect size for a 1/16 scale M26. I couldn't be happier about this. The chain is 4 mm wide and not flimsy or delicate because of it's size. Included in the box of parts was a plastic bag with 4 pieces of candy and a note from "Bobby". Do these guys know how to treat a customer or what????? They made my day and have a customer for life. Thanks again for this source of goodies.
rex
#62
Ha Ha. Fantastic Rex! Gotta love these vendors and their candy. Have a buddy that did a lot of 1/5 gas trucks and a vendor he used sent mints with an order. The mints got so much press that they now sell the mints by the box.(50 count.)
#64
That is so cool, candy and parts??? That is R/C heaven!!! Do they have drive belts as well? Chain and sprocket parts look so good.
#65
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#66
Thanks Rex. 3/8 is too wide. I am looking for something to replicate fan belt or belts on a maybach motor in 1/16 scale. Maybe tape, but I was hoping for something with the V shape of the real belt.
#67
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While I have been waiting for some parts and supplies I need for this project, I was able to do some work on the rear frame and crane. The chain drive is the next part I will do thanks to the super fast delivery policy over at Servocity. I ordered some more stuff online the other night (3-16) and they mailed it the next morning (3-17) before I fell out of bed. USPS tracking says it will be delivered today.
Things are going well so far -----
rex
Things are going well so far -----
rex
#70
Yep... looks HAWT!!! That was a great tip Bret.
It's what being a member of a forum is all about.
Jeff
It's what being a member of a forum is all about.
Jeff
#71
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Slowly but surely I'm making progress. I got the sides and some more on the back half of this buggy done, and now I get to do the rear winches and stuff. I started to make an interior, but since that will not be seen very well I ain't gonna spend a whole lot of time on liitle details. So far so good.
rex
rex
#73
Mr. Ross I once again tip my hat to your work. really looks nice.
#75
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I have been avoiding building the winches behind the cab because they are a pile of small details. Small details and rivets are not my favorite things to do. They are a pain in the rear end, and I don't mean the differential. I decided to do a simple interior for the cab. Nothing fancy, nothing will be very visible unless you get up close, so small details will not be needed.
While I was researching for interior photos, I ran across some photos of battle damaged Dragon Wagons. I saw a picture of an M26 with winches that had been hit by heavy machinegun fire. At this point a brilliant idea exploded in my brain. And just by a happy coincidence, my good buddy Jim Beam had stopped by that afternoon and he agreed that the photo was a great solution to my problem. Jim always encourages and inspires me to "Be all that I can be" and "Just do it". Or maybe it was somebody else, that's not the point here.
Since I can't post the photo of those damaged winches, I will explain the background story about what happened the best I can.
Here's the story as I remember reading the historically accurate report -------
It's late 1944. The war is almost over. The Germans make one last attack and their tanks are damaging a lot of American armor. Armour if your are British. There is a great need to get those Allied tanks repaired and back in operation so they can keep denting and scratching the paint on the Panzers. General Patton is racing to the front lines to kick some butt. As he crosses the Rhine on a pontoon bridge, he sees a Dragon Wagon alongside the road and stops to order the crew to get up to the front at top speed. The crew tells him that the winch motors are shot up and don't run anymore ---- there is no way they can pull a tank up on the trailer. Patton is furious!. He tells the crew to get those gosh darn winches working no matter what they have to do. The crew puts their heads together to figure out what to do. Since GIs are inventive, resourceful, and clever, they think of the Motor Pool slogan "Do the job with what ya got".
Here are some photos of a real set of winches and a great scale model.
Here are some photos of what the GIs did to make General Patton happy.
While I was researching for interior photos, I ran across some photos of battle damaged Dragon Wagons. I saw a picture of an M26 with winches that had been hit by heavy machinegun fire. At this point a brilliant idea exploded in my brain. And just by a happy coincidence, my good buddy Jim Beam had stopped by that afternoon and he agreed that the photo was a great solution to my problem. Jim always encourages and inspires me to "Be all that I can be" and "Just do it". Or maybe it was somebody else, that's not the point here.
Since I can't post the photo of those damaged winches, I will explain the background story about what happened the best I can.
Here's the story as I remember reading the historically accurate report -------
It's late 1944. The war is almost over. The Germans make one last attack and their tanks are damaging a lot of American armor. Armour if your are British. There is a great need to get those Allied tanks repaired and back in operation so they can keep denting and scratching the paint on the Panzers. General Patton is racing to the front lines to kick some butt. As he crosses the Rhine on a pontoon bridge, he sees a Dragon Wagon alongside the road and stops to order the crew to get up to the front at top speed. The crew tells him that the winch motors are shot up and don't run anymore ---- there is no way they can pull a tank up on the trailer. Patton is furious!. He tells the crew to get those gosh darn winches working no matter what they have to do. The crew puts their heads together to figure out what to do. Since GIs are inventive, resourceful, and clever, they think of the Motor Pool slogan "Do the job with what ya got".
Here are some photos of a real set of winches and a great scale model.
Here are some photos of what the GIs did to make General Patton happy.
Last edited by Rex Ross; 03-30-2016 at 09:10 AM.