Jp 4
08-18-2016, 02:25 PM
#76
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You can paint the clear plastic barrel end. Just don't use any primer, only a light coat of the same color as your barrel. This disguises the flash unit until it functions, you'll be able to see the bright orange through the lightly painted barrel end. This is the same as the tamiya Leo 2A6.
08-19-2016, 05:31 PM
#79
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Well, here is a problem that needs to be fixed, there is a rather large gap that will need to be filled, i think some sheet plastic should do the trick. i can't have this huge gap while fighting at Danville, too much dirt and debris will get inside the tank.
Last edited by manchu9inf; 08-23-2016 at 05:27 AM.
08-19-2016, 07:39 PM
#80
what I like to do for big gaps like that is use that sponge rubber seal that you can get for box window air conditioners for that gap between the windows not the fat stuff but the skinny stuff .
Jimmy
Jimmy
08-24-2016, 06:12 PM
#83
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Hatches are on and operational, i am concerned the CDR's hatch will block part of the back of the TBU. i held the TBU about where i think it will sit, and the hatch covers 3 of the lower fins. But i won't know for sure until i get the base mounted, i will definitely test fit this weekend.
08-24-2016, 08:04 PM
#84
Yea, see what your saying Will. Could you make the hatch removable so when your operating it's out and when it's looking pretty on the shelf placed back in? Essentially removing the hinge? Does look cool the way it is though.
08-24-2016, 08:17 PM
#85
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Bret, i followed the instructions on this one and the hatch is glued in.......... unfortunately. it does look cool and operates nice, I just need to verify the height of the TBU and see what kind of clearance there really is.
08-24-2016, 08:38 PM
#86
Right on, this is just like the stock Tammy T1 TC hatch that blocks the apple. Maybe the same remedy of making the hatch be able to fall flat? If it's all glued in maybe you could still mess with the hinge a bit if it comes to that. Not a huge deal, I'll bring the side cutters with me at inspection time, snip here...snip there...good to go...he he.
08-25-2016, 05:23 AM
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Will, can you get the large hatch to open completely flat rather than at a 90 degree angle? If not is there a stop that can be filed down to allow it to lay flat? I like my hatches to be functional but in order to fight without it blocking the apple you will have to think of something "outside the box". I am surprised that they did not make the hatch similar to the one on the KV where it just pops out for apple install.
Marty
Marty
08-25-2016, 09:05 AM
#89
Couldn't you use styrene stock to extend the hinges and create sockets for them? Slide the hatch in and out of place.
I sure I'm wrong, but I thought early club rules allowed for hatches if they were part of the original tank design, just not added items like fuel cans, etc. could block the TBU.
The early Tiger I was designed to clip in place, where the later cupolas pivoted out. I thought the Tiger I was okay to block the part of the TBU that it does. I don't know about Danville, but that's the way we fight here. If it's part of the tank, it's part of the tank.
08-25-2016, 03:22 PM
#90
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well, it is confirmed, the Apple is too short.
I guess, i am IFA from the back and not the front! i could maybe raise it, but then the hatch wouldn't completely close, i might have to decide to roll as is.
I guess, i am IFA from the back and not the front! i could maybe raise it, but then the hatch wouldn't completely close, i might have to decide to roll as is.
Last edited by manchu9inf; 09-12-2016 at 05:09 AM.
08-25-2016, 06:07 PM
#91
So Will, technically that will pass an A.C.E inspection since you'd be running TFA I would assume and we do our hit tests past 10' at the 45's. This said your still going to get guff for sure. Unless your planning on displaying it with a TC and it were me I would just cut the bottom of the hinge out and either have it completely out for operating then lay it back in flat for display. Hell it may even lay up right itself with the weight of the hatch and the hinge arms still attached to the hatch.
08-25-2016, 06:17 PM
#92
The low profile is an advantage.
Couldn't you use styrene stock to extend the hinges and create sockets for them? Slide the hatch in and out of place.
I sure I'm wrong, but I thought early club rules allowed for hatches if they were part of the original tank design, just not added items like fuel cans, etc. could block the TBU.
The early Tiger I was designed to clip in place, where the later cupolas pivoted out. I thought the Tiger I was okay to block the part of the TBU that it does. I don't know about Danville, but that's the way we fight here. If it's part of the tank, it's part of the tank.
Couldn't you use styrene stock to extend the hinges and create sockets for them? Slide the hatch in and out of place.
I sure I'm wrong, but I thought early club rules allowed for hatches if they were part of the original tank design, just not added items like fuel cans, etc. could block the TBU.
The early Tiger I was designed to clip in place, where the later cupolas pivoted out. I thought the Tiger I was okay to block the part of the TBU that it does. I don't know about Danville, but that's the way we fight here. If it's part of the tank, it's part of the tank.
08-25-2016, 06:36 PM
#93
Also Jeff, we first do the hit test before we ask a tanker if they can remove an obstruction. It's not just a visual observation. So if a tammy t1 comes to inspection with it's stock TC hatch and it takes hits from the obstructed side it's good to go. Never want to make a builder mess with their stuff unless necessary for fair play.
08-25-2016, 06:38 PM
#95
yea, inside 10'. Theoretically you could reverse into action and never get hit from that side, then unleash a death blossom. Like you said, your rear end is IFA or I guess IRA. Guessing you'll be the first with this one at Danville Will, we can do some testing on it. Either way not a big deal.
Last edited by TheBennyB; 08-25-2016 at 06:49 PM.
08-25-2016, 07:52 PM
#97
Definitely wouldn't raise the apple. Takes away from the low profile. Would rather look at getting the hatch removable or able to lay flat if need be.
08-25-2016, 08:22 PM
#99
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Its a clip on, going through the mantlet would require a lot of work, especially drilling through the mantlet and the gun shield behind that, i will post pics when i get to the gun installation probably later this weekend.
08-26-2016, 03:28 AM
#100
Huh? What ever happened to "well that's just the advantage this tank brings to the field" than trying to redesign the tanks features? I guess I missed that part in the Thunder Rules. 
NOT TO SOUND LIKE I'M WHINING ABOUT RULES
but wouldn't it just lead to finding 'other ways' to defeat the guy with the distinct advantage than make them all cardboard boxes with an apple mounted?
That is unfortunate it blocks the apple (I would have never thought it would) but be even worse if it looked different just to be legal.
BTW... the tank is looking good Will.
Jeff
NOT TO SOUND LIKE I'M WHINING ABOUT RULES
but wouldn't it just lead to finding 'other ways' to defeat the guy with the distinct advantage than make them all cardboard boxes with an apple mounted?That is unfortunate it blocks the apple (I would have never thought it would) but be even worse if it looked different just to be legal.
BTW... the tank is looking good Will.
Jeff