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Old 05-15-2018, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RichJohnson View Post
That is really cool logic behind it. Totally something Raytheon, BAE or GD could have come up with. Its refreshing to see customization and freelancing on modern tanks that isn't done very much. Whats really cool is you have a lot of knowledge and thought behind it not just a hodge podge of parts thrown together. Your whole story is very plausible. I was thinking what you need now is a company decal across the turret side like Ontrack systems or what ever, with a big white lighting bolt under it or a projectile passing through it like a company logo you know.
Company logo added to the tank(s) that is a really interesting idea. I like it!
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:07 PM
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Hi Fsttanks
Interesting, is that a 105mm?
Presumably thats a Thermal imaging sight mounted in the centre turret fwd of the hatches? Looks like it will obstruct the loaders hatch slightly? Internally it might obstruct gun depression?
NBC pack replacing the turret stowage box?

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Old 05-16-2018, 02:26 PM
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Hi Fsttanks
Re the Tow launcher, presumably that's the firing position? Does it fold to stow against the LHS turret? Bradley like?
Doesn't look to be too much clearance between the thermal sight & the launcher, repeated launches may cook the sight?
In case of a hang fire on the launcher, I guess the loader will have to exit vis the T/C's hatch - after the TC & gunner?

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Originally Posted by afv aficionado View Post
Hi Fsttanks
Re the Tow launcher, presumably that's the firing position? Does it fold to stow against the LHS turret? Bradley like?
Doesn't look to be too much clearance between the thermal sight & the launcher, repeated launches may cook the sight?
In case of a hang fire on the launcher, I guess the loader will have to exit vis the T/C's hatch - after the TC & gunner?

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NO the TOW is in the "STOWED" position in the above photos. The launch position opens high and to left side of the turret. In launch position it clears the turret by a fair margin. It is not fully attached yet so I have not taken photos of it in the launch position. Most likely will be attach it tonight and should have photos of it in the launch position posted tomorrow. I have also finished work on the muzzle and barrel fume extractor. I worked up two muzzle ends and will be looking for input on which to use tomorrow as well.

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Old 05-16-2018, 04:23 PM
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I picked up a couple of these a few weeks ago .

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Verlinden-1....c100227.m3827
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Hi Fsttanks
NO the TOW is in the "STOWED" position in the above photos. The launch position opens high and to left side of the turret. In launch position it clears the turret by a fair margin. It is not fully attached yet so I have not taken photos of it in the launch position. Most likely will be attach it tonight and should have photos of it in the launch position posted tomorrow. - Cool

I have also finished work on the muzzle and barrel fume extractor. I worked up two muzzle ends and will be looking for input on which to use tomorrow as well. - Cool. Presumably the gun will fire the standard mix of rounds - HE, Canister, Smoke etc, rather than exclusively sabot rounds? If the latter you might be better off with out a muzzle brake, as they're known to interfere with the sabot shoe.

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Originally Posted by afv aficionado View Post
Hi Fsttanks
NO the TOW is in the "STOWED" position in the above photos. The launch position opens high and to left side of the turret. In launch position it clears the turret by a fair margin. It is not fully attached yet so I have not taken photos of it in the launch position. Most likely will be attach it tonight and should have photos of it in the launch position posted tomorrow. - Cool

I have also finished work on the muzzle and barrel fume extractor. I worked up two muzzle ends and will be looking for input on which to use tomorrow as well. - Cool. Presumably the gun will fire the standard mix of rounds - HE, Canister, Smoke etc, rather than exclusively sabot rounds? If the latter you might be better off with out a muzzle brake, as they're known to interfere with the sabot shoe.

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I am making use of the out of spec HL M41 barrel that is closer to a 105-120mm barrel in diameter. This works well enough to simulate a “heavy barrel” 76mm gun configuration. The muzzles I worked up took into account the sabot issue. One has no brake and one has a short high efficiency small diameter brake. When the heavier barrel weight and installation of modern dampening technology are taken into account as part of the gun system the need for a large brake becomes more or less pointless.

Since the “B” turret would be marketed to countries that do not have an a high threat from more modern tank adversaries, the need for a main gun to fire many different type of rounds weighs high in importantance to maintaining versatility of use.



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Turret "B" TOW launcher positions.

First photo is in the stowed position the second is in the firing position. This turret is still under construction and is in the "rough" still needing finishing work prior to paint.

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Old 05-17-2018, 10:15 AM
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I worked up two barrel end options for the upgraded barrel being fitted to turret 'B". The first two photos show option #1 which has a short high efficiency muzzle brake. The second two photos show option #2 which has no muzzle brake. Both option share the same evacuator. Note the muzzle ends were painted only to provide a completed look and their actual color will be different once assembled onto turret "B"

Looking for your input as to which one to use so feel free to and your constructive thoughts on which to utilize.



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I like the visual effect of the top photo barrel better.
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Both look fine, remind me of how my Taigen M41 currently looks - haven't fitted the muzzle brake - see last post on the page - Taigen M41A3 -

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Old 05-18-2018, 01:13 PM
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Looks like turret "B" will be heading to the paint shop later today. I have to say for a turret that is made up of odds and ends I pulled out of my used parts bin it has turned out better than I expected so far. In person it looks to have the ability to hit fast and hard. I am kind of torn as to whether or not to buy another M41 to put it on? The only thing stopping me is the poor quality suspension the Heng Long M41s have. In short order I have worn out 4 "axels" and broken two shocks. I have not even installed the red motors, steel gearbox or DKML Abrams track yet. Still I am loving the "Cold War" era look this M41 has.
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"B" turret : Most of the paint work is done but dirtying it up is still needed. Also note this turret is not a "show piece" it is meant to be used and abused so the detail work put into it is being limited as it will soon be covered in heavy dust and dirt.

The last few photos show turret "B" next to turret "A" which is mounted on the tank.












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Old 05-19-2018, 04:19 AM
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That looks really good
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Old 05-20-2018, 06:33 PM
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Well its been a fun project and I hope you enjoyed this thread, but other than a few tiny things I am calling it done. So for the build part of the Heng Long M41 "Modernization" here are the final photos that show a comparison of the two turret options. I will be following this build up soon with the running upgrades thread that will cover internals and new DKLM sprocket and tracks. As always your constructive input or question are welcome.

The first set of photos are of turret "A" with the new 105mm smooth bore gun, conformal ceramic turret armor, advanced sighting systems for commander and gunner giving the tank a "hunter killer" capability.

The second set of photos are of turret "B" with the new heavy barrel 76mm rifled gun, bolt on (thinner) ceramic turret armor, advanced gunners sight, CROWS type weapons system, and optional TOW missile launcher (shown in stowed "non firing" position).

Heng Long M41 "Modernized Turret" : Option "A"





Heng Long M41 "Modernized Turret" : Option "B"



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Old 05-20-2018, 07:18 PM
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Hi Fststanks
Nice job, both look the part.

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Looks really good, nice upgrade!!!
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