Mako2018 "battle unit conversion unit"
02-06-2019, 12:50 PM
#1
Mako2018 "battle unit conversion unit"
For those of you looking at the Mako2018 "battle conversion unit" that enables the use of Heng Long or Taigen MFUs to IR battle with Tamiya battle systems using the Tamiya "mushrooms" and "IR emitters". Be warned that this product does not use the Tamyia cables and requires a non standard cable that connects the Tamiya "mushrooms" to the Mako2018 unit. This is not mentioned in the product description on the sellers website and vaguely alluded to in a few install photos found on their forum board showing a photo tectorial of the install process.
This becomes a problem when you discover the supplier does not offer this non standard cable for sale and you are left on your own to make it. So much for the alluded to "plug and play". Why this cable is not mentioned as needed or offered for add-on sale in the produce description is beyond reason. Given it took 3 1/2 weeks to receive the Mako2018 and now to have an even further delay attempting to source a one off cable, I may just end up "round filing" this thing instead for the time and trouble it is causing.
I did attempt to contact the supplier about this but for some reason their contact page is not taking inquires.
This becomes a problem when you discover the supplier does not offer this non standard cable for sale and you are left on your own to make it. So much for the alluded to "plug and play". Why this cable is not mentioned as needed or offered for add-on sale in the produce description is beyond reason. Given it took 3 1/2 weeks to receive the Mako2018 and now to have an even further delay attempting to source a one off cable, I may just end up "round filing" this thing instead for the time and trouble it is causing.
I did attempt to contact the supplier about this but for some reason their contact page is not taking inquires.
Last edited by Fsttanks; 02-06-2019 at 12:55 PM.
02-06-2019, 01:47 PM
#3
Yes, this is the cable. Shown going from the Tamiya "mushroom" to the Mako2018 board. It is also the only reference to it anywhere either written or in photos. I must note that this photo is not on the produce page nor in any product section, it is on a forum the supplier runs and must be search out.
Last edited by Fsttanks; 02-06-2019 at 01:52 PM.
02-07-2019, 01:39 PM
#6
02-10-2019, 09:02 AM
#7
Firstly, knock it off with those negative vibes.
What makes you think the plugs none standard?
Have you tried plugging in a TBU base?
I have the RCTA tiger and panther ring and the default plug they come with is the same molex connector that tamiya use so it would seem odd that the mako would use something different. Why would you expect it to come with a cable? No other electronics board does, that should come.with you battle system.
I've pm'd you the email address you need, I've had much help in the past and Kevin's usually very quick to reply.
You may wish to reconsider the little outburst in the initial post.
What makes you think the plugs none standard?
Have you tried plugging in a TBU base?
I have the RCTA tiger and panther ring and the default plug they come with is the same molex connector that tamiya use so it would seem odd that the mako would use something different. Why would you expect it to come with a cable? No other electronics board does, that should come.with you battle system.
I've pm'd you the email address you need, I've had much help in the past and Kevin's usually very quick to reply.
You may wish to reconsider the little outburst in the initial post.
02-10-2019, 09:15 AM
#8
Well, looking at his photos, I do not see a plug socket for the TBU base plug.
So it seems they intend for you to use a 5 pin JST harness between your TBU Apple and the mako board. It seems they didn't send him one, didn't tell him he needed it, and he says it doesn't look like they sell the cable. Im not involved, but I would think that they would or should offer the cable if its needed to be Tamiya Compatible.
So it seems they intend for you to use a 5 pin JST harness between your TBU Apple and the mako board. It seems they didn't send him one, didn't tell him he needed it, and he says it doesn't look like they sell the cable. Im not involved, but I would think that they would or should offer the cable if its needed to be Tamiya Compatible.
02-10-2019, 10:26 AM
#9
Firstly, knock it off with those negative vibes.
What makes you think the plugs none standard?
Have you tried plugging in a TBU base?
I have the RCTA tiger and panther ring and the default plug they come with is the same molex connector that tamiya use so it would seem odd that the mako would use something different. Why would you expect it to come with a cable? No other electronics board does, that should come.with you battle system.
I've pm'd you the email address you need, I've had much help in the past and Kevin's usually very quick to reply.
You may wish to reconsider the little outburst in the initial post.
What makes you think the plugs none standard?
Have you tried plugging in a TBU base?
I have the RCTA tiger and panther ring and the default plug they come with is the same molex connector that tamiya use so it would seem odd that the mako would use something different. Why would you expect it to come with a cable? No other electronics board does, that should come.with you battle system.
I've pm'd you the email address you need, I've had much help in the past and Kevin's usually very quick to reply.
You may wish to reconsider the little outburst in the initial post.
That said let me start by clearing up a few things for you. First, I said "one off cable", I did not say plug, there is a big difference.
Second, the FACT is the cable/plug combination is not available on the web site nor mentioned as needed anywhere on the MAKO2018 product page (at the time of my first post) and it does not use the same cable/plug that come standard with the Tamiya battle units. I have two new TBUs and neither use the cable/plug shown above.
Third, I did not expect it to come with anything more than the board and NOWHERE do I say this, what I expect and others too is that the need for this cable be clearly stated and offered as an extra add-on "for sale item" in the product description. Fact is, it is not.
Fourth, I attempted to use the "Contact Us" on the RCTA web site several time to address this issue and it would not allow me to send a message. I attempted this on four different computers and two smart phones each time being kicked back, as the RCTA site believing it to be a "bot".
Lastly with the extremely long delivery time of 3 1/2 weeks to receive the MAKO2018 why would I believe RCTA could have been any faster with getting this cable to me. Really 3+ weeks from a "first world" country! I routinely receive parts for England and Europe (Germany Poland Italy) in half the time and with tracking no less, something not offered by RCTA on this item(?). I would have gladly paid for a bit faster shipping had it been offered during the checkout process on the RCTA site.
At this point I have shelved the MAKO2018 and will be moving on to other electronic option. I don't want to waist anymore time with testing a "stop gap" system.
Last edited by Fsttanks; 02-10-2019 at 10:31 AM.
02-10-2019, 10:37 AM
#10
If it was just a "stop gap", why don't you use the factory Taigen/HL apple? I have several Mako boards and they work fine with the factory apple vs Tamiya equipped tanks. Yes, Taigen apples do not have the sensitivity that the Tamiya's do, but as a "stop gap", they work fine. I've since moved on because they have other shortcomings. But, as loaner tanks that I have yet to convert, they are a cheaper way to introduce new people to this money pit.
02-10-2019, 11:08 AM
#11
If it was just a "stop gap", why don't you use the factory Taigen/HL apple? I have several Mako boards and they work fine with the factory apple vs Tamiya equipped tanks. Yes, Taigen apples do not have the sensitivity that the Tamiya's do, but as a "stop gap", they work fine. I've since moved on because they have other shortcomings. But, as loaner tanks that I have yet to convert, they are a cheaper way to introduce new people to this money pit.
Last edited by Fsttanks; 02-10-2019 at 11:16 AM.
02-10-2019, 11:20 AM
#12
Oh, I get it. I assumed you were converting an IR tank. Yes, its a bummer, but the boards do work for their intended purposes. Since, I entered this hobby, I've acquired piles of wire spools, plug kits, and miscellaneous bobbles. At this point, I'd think harder about how to mount the TBU base than about building a plug. I guess you could look at it as a two week learning experience wherein you collect a bunch of new wire, connectors, and bobbles
As boards go, Clark will take plenty of rewiring, and IBU2U are pretty expensive compared to what you're currently working with. Good luck...remember, its supposed to be fun.
As boards go, Clark will take plenty of rewiring, and IBU2U are pretty expensive compared to what you're currently working with. Good luck...remember, its supposed to be fun.
02-10-2019, 11:23 AM
#13
Looking at the picture, I think what you need is one of these:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JST-XH-Ma...r=540416152308
As the description states, its commonly used for charging 4S lipos so you should be able to source it locally?
I'm guessing that the Mako was intentionally designed to dispense with the Tamiya connector so that you can share the apple with other tanks and not have to buy an additional base. The Tamiya micro connector is not easy to find preassembled in my experience, and crimping those tiny pins yourself is an exercise in frustration to say the least - it makes much more sense to use a common off the shelf lead, jam one end into a blob of miliput under the turret hatch, and plug the other end into the Mako...
Hope this helps.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JST-XH-Ma...r=540416152308
As the description states, its commonly used for charging 4S lipos so you should be able to source it locally?
I'm guessing that the Mako was intentionally designed to dispense with the Tamiya connector so that you can share the apple with other tanks and not have to buy an additional base. The Tamiya micro connector is not easy to find preassembled in my experience, and crimping those tiny pins yourself is an exercise in frustration to say the least - it makes much more sense to use a common off the shelf lead, jam one end into a blob of miliput under the turret hatch, and plug the other end into the Mako...
Hope this helps.
02-10-2019, 11:47 AM
#14
Looking at the picture, I think what you need is one of these:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JST-XH-Ma...r=540416152308
As the description states, its commonly used for charging 4S lipos so you should be able to source it locally?
I'm guessing that the Mako was intentionally designed to dispense with the Tamiya connector so that you can share the apple with other tanks and not have to buy an additional base. The Tamiya micro connector is not easy to find preassembled in my experience, and crimping those tiny pins yourself is an exercise in frustration to say the least - it makes much more sense to use a common off the shelf lead, jam one end into a blob of miliput under the turret hatch, and plug the other end into the Mako...
Hope this helps.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JST-XH-Ma...r=540416152308
As the description states, its commonly used for charging 4S lipos so you should be able to source it locally?
I'm guessing that the Mako was intentionally designed to dispense with the Tamiya connector so that you can share the apple with other tanks and not have to buy an additional base. The Tamiya micro connector is not easy to find preassembled in my experience, and crimping those tiny pins yourself is an exercise in frustration to say the least - it makes much more sense to use a common off the shelf lead, jam one end into a blob of miliput under the turret hatch, and plug the other end into the Mako...
Hope this helps.
02-10-2019, 11:58 AM
#15
Having gone and googled the difference between a JST XH and a JST PH connector, I'll add that the PH has a 2mm pin spacing, and the XH has a 2.54mm spacing - anybody wanting to make up their own bases will need a socket with a 2.54mm spacing for the TBU end of the cable.
02-10-2019, 11:59 AM
#16
Oh, I get it. I assumed you were converting an IR tank. Yes, its a bummer, but the boards do work for their intended purposes. Since, I entered this hobby, I've acquired piles of wire spools, plug kits, and miscellaneous bobbles. At this point, I'd think harder about how to mount the TBU base than about building a plug. I guess you could look at it as a two week learning experience wherein you collect a bunch of new wire, connectors, and bobbles As boards go, Clark will take plenty of rewiring, and IBU2U are pretty expensive compared to what you're currently working with. Good luck...remember, its supposed to be fun.
As boards go, Clark will take plenty of rewiring, and IBU2U are pretty expensive compared to what you're currently working with. Good luck...remember, its supposed to be fun.
02-10-2019, 05:44 PM
#17
At the moment, I'm retrofitting a Taigen Motherboard with Mako into a JJRC tanker truck to serve as a moving target. My mako works with both Taigen apples and wiring. The 3D printed Tamiya bases that I have, (ordered from RCTankelectronics, or Ozarmour), are pinned the same as a Taigen and fit on the mako in the same slot. My problem: The boards have to decide they want to receive hits: The LED will light up every shot, but the motherboard/speaker only explodes when it wants to. Doesn't matter which apple is attached.
02-10-2019, 07:09 PM
#18
At LA tank, we tolerate all the kids using the HL tanks with mako boards because its the Military Museum gimmick to host the battles. Its annoying when kids with HL shermans and panzers can kill the **** out of all the Tamiya clark and IBU tanks on the field and only loose one or two. Yes the Mako boards more or less pick up and score every 5 to 10 hits.
We just play for fun and ignore the fact that we loose before we start.
We just play for fun and ignore the fact that we loose before we start.
02-11-2019, 02:49 PM
#21
No, rcu has a minimum character count so it was necessary to "delete" a comment; after remembering some wise words, to never educate a mug.
02-11-2019, 03:47 PM
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02-11-2019, 05:34 PM
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02-11-2019, 11:13 PM
#24
Yeah...no. Impact wanted to charge me $40 shipping for a single pair of tracks. I'll pass.
02-12-2019, 12:33 AM
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