Fade2Black1

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US laws are diffrent per state.

Here in NJ, to possess a Long Gun (Shot Gun or Rifle), you go to the local police department, register for a Firearms ID. It goes through the township and state, once it comes back, you are allowed to purchase any Long Gun you want with it.

Hand guns are diffrent because they are easily concealed. First you have to have the same Firearms ID card. Then you go back to the police station and fill out an application for a hand gun permit. You can fill out maximum 2 per time and they are big $. I am unsure on the time frame they are valid for, but most people buy two at a time. Once they go through the town, then they hit the state, and the state hits the feds. If it all comes back, you are good to go.

NJ is one of the hardest states to get a handgun in. It has its good and bads.

Two hours from here is Pennsylvania, and it is one of the easiest states.

I know in the Carolinas there is a Gun Shop, Bar, and Bank all on the same block. LMAO...

The_Stuff

one friend of mine has been trying and trying and TRYING To get that imported into canada from wherever he can! people keep giving him BS excuses about shipping a gun across the canadian border! found a mint in box one in japan. guy wouldnt ship cause "it has a picture of a gun on the box"...




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Also that orange tip thing, thats an american law. doesnt apply up here in canada but some people still do that. back to the megatron, one guy said he would ship (from europe) but he would have to paint the orange on. what a $#^T%@#^T%@#%@#~!!!!!!!!!

swathdiver

You guys have got to take back your country from the Statists. It's not enough to sit back and mind your business because the Statist is in yours! If you cherish Liberty, if you want your children to have the same freedom and oppurtunity you have, it must be fought for!

Stand up and tell them NO! Call them, pressure your elected leaders! Run for office or support those who share your values to run for office.

This is what we're doing in the United States now. The Liberal/Socialist/Communist/Statist does not quit. They invade every aspect of our lives, they're in our toilets and now they're in your toy boxes.

Fight back now before some Statist comes after your tanks. I can see the legislative language now!

pattoncommander

RC tanks = toys have been a concern for a long time. Sure, nice realistic toys, but take a close look what SWAT teams and the military are using as robots....in EOD as well as sending robot track vehicles into hostile areas with cameras....and now weapons, operated from distance by someone with a box. Look at the unmanned military dones that originally carried cameras....and are now armed with missles. Guaranteed, the gov and law enforcement have been looking at these things with VERY close scrutiny for some time.[:@]

Think it's about time our RC tanks got away from shooting anything at all, except light beams (oh oh..laser?[X(]) and play the safe card to protect our hobby. More ciritical in this respect are RC aircraft, as our slow, lumbering tanks can't zip in for an explosive strike as fast as a "toy" plane, but still a concern. Personally, I am happy with a "boom", flash and simulated gun fire as opposed to hard hitting BBs and my tanks are set up to run like the real one they are representing, so no "Hot Mustang speed streak" like I see so many guys doing. Still, (in the minds of our elected legal gurus), they are a ligitimate concern for potential assisination or terrorist operations.[]

When operating these things, it well behooves us to be careful of what we show to whom in regard to the power of any weapons systems we have on our tanks. I am certainly hoping our "genious" president, in his efforts to illiminate guns, will not look too close at our hobby. [:-]

Fade2Black1

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Reminds me of some knuckle head that strapped a 45 to his heli.

What purpose does this serve other then a complete failure and a gun just going off anywhere it feels like

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80478186/

Alan123

I am originally from Australia and have spent most of my life there, having traveled the world a bit and lived a long time in other countries I have to say that the Australian Govt has well earned its reputation as a Nanny State (think of the television show Super Nanny for the context I mean).

One thing though is that while they pass these silly laws there is nothing really behind them to resource the enforcement of those laws. There is not much chance of you having your stuff confiscated etc.

Australia has a population of about 22 million people and so is not unlike an average sized US state, the Australian States themselves have an even smaller population and the State Govts correspondingly very amateurish.

The people and politicians are easily whipped up into a frenzy, by the news media, and suddenly pass silly laws that are later repealed when the cause of the outrage is forgotten. (ie kiddy being shot by policeman for waving a toy gun around) Right now it is a hot issue, next month it will be almost forgotten and next year people will wonder where this silly law came from that no one can be bothered enforcing and then getting enraged while a little kiddy is in Court and has received a monster fine for having a toy gun, and the thing goes around is a silly circle of State Govt amateurism.

One thought though: in England, in the late middle ages there were many people being being killed and injured by short sword attacks, most men carried one. It reached epidemic proportions until the Govt of the day (or King) simply banned short swords. The problem then simply disappeared.



Cheers

Alan

googlydoogly

I really feel bad for you guys. I live in a state where its legal to own any kind of firearms, even full-auto ones (if you're willing to pay the $200 fed stamp tax, and find a CLEO who would sign for it).

googlydoogly

See...that's the kind of stupid, unsafe crap that some gun owners do that gives the rest of us a bad rep. I think that just about broke every cardinal rule about gun safety.

Ern

Patton, I totally agree with your second sentance... we do need to be careful with who sees some of the airsoft tanks out there, especially those that have upgraded the systems from their stock configurations. But, the first sentance... are you f'ing crazy! [X(] Never give up anything because you'll never see it again! Like Swath said, it is time to stand up for your rights and show the ignorance of these type laws and get these politicans out of office - not give in a little to appease them and the super liberals in a hope that it will keep them away from the things that you cherish and value most. Little by little our freedoms are being stolen away from us one little chip at a time. I fear that one day we are going to wake up and not even recognize the country we are living in. While you may only be into the modeling aspects of this hobby, or IR battling, you need to stand up for your airsoft brothers out there because once they are done they'll come after something else and that time it may be something that you really care about.

As a kid I had a C02 pellet rifle that was equal to, or more powerful than, Perry S's supergun in his tanks and I never assasinated anyone with it! BB guns have been around forever, and making them or airsoft tanks illegal will do nothing to make life safer for anyone, or me safer on the job [police officer].

Wozwasnt

Some weeks ago I posted a link for a RC BB firing helicopter. The gun was as powerful as a Heng Longs (ie not very) but could you imagine what yould happen if someone decided to beef it up (looks at Perry) so it can fire metal BB's at high power.

That fun toy can easily become a dangerous weapon in the wrong hands.

hekeas

Wow! This lunacy in one of the most wonderful places on earth! I have spent a great many visits to Australia, the people are wonderful, the beauty is overwhelming, but what are they aiming for? What is truly to be accomplished? Perhaps total control of the masses by a central runaway political system... I can't imagine a day being a child of 10 and not be able to play cops and robbers or lone ranger and tonto without my trusty toy winchester.

rgm762

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its already here, sorta, if you notice when you look at "toy guns" they all now have a bright colored cap on the end of the barrel, including airsoft

swathdiver

Our children cannot even draw pictures of guns, cowboys and indians fighting each other as they thought police have a laundry list of charges to bring against them and their parents.

For my science project each year, I used to bring in bombs! Fu-Gas, Claymores, etc. Also used to wear 5.56 or a .50 cal bullets around my neck and carried an inert pineapple grenade to class on "show and tell" days. Kids, boys especially are being feminized and not allowed to explore their natural interests. It's part of the culture war that we must recognize is happening and fight back.

mike31

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That's easy to fix. Get real guns. Same training!

Ern

Well, I really don't want to start an argument going, but what exactly do you think can happen? Let me guess... "you can shoot your eye out"?! It comes down to individual responsibility, and accountability for ANYTHING that you possess. If you want to arm your RC helicopter, you should be able to. Period. I wish I had the skills to operate a helicopter because I would probably do the same thing, and if I did and happened to damage someones property, or God forbid, injure someone, I should be held accountable. And if Perry or TJM wants their airsoft tanks to shoot 800fps the more power to them [just show us how you did it!] but they need use caution when firing them just like any other weapon that is capable of firing at that velocity. We are all big kids here [ask the wife, she keeps telling me that] and I doubt that the next terrorist attack is going to come in the form of a Heng Long tank.

brockettman

TBird,

Get your permit and support the NRA. The USA could very easily go the way of Austrailia.... Sooner than you think.

Wozwasnt

In the UK a girl recently died after being shot in the eye with a broken old airgun.



Thats the problem, some individuals just aren't very responsible. They think it's fun to shoot at people and "whats the worst that can happen?"

grim_marmazet

I'm with you wozwasnt, guns need to be controlled, period. Restricting childrens toys does take it a bit far. In the UK we have the UKARA license witch is given to people who are careful and serious airsofters to own replica weapons.

I just dont think everyone should own a gun, its not needed in modern society.

phatbob02

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[:-] You weren't suppose to mention "our Government!
Now we're going to get another law to protect us from our selves.

googlydoogly

There's a case here in the US where an Iraqi father ran over his 20 year-old daughter because he thinks she's too westernized. I guess that's an excuse for the government to demand their citizens to turn in all of their vehicles and rely on public transportation?

There's also a case where a guy went nuts and stabbed a guy to death with a knife. Does that mean the government should demand their citizens to turn in all of their kitchen knives, and rely on the goverment to cut our food for us?

Mmmm...hand-fed by the govermnent...[:-]

Perry S.

Your right, these can be a dangerous in the wrong hands. You know what else can be? A car. A knife. A stick. A baseball. A screwdriver. A piece of plastic. Can you believe how incredibly dangerous a lawn mower is? In the US a child actually died when he fell on his pencil. We should definitely outlaw those. You shouldn't change an entire society to account for the lowest common denominator.

Perry

grim_marmazet

You are correct that these things are dangerous, but the difference between those and guns is; gun were made to do nothing but kill, all those other things have other uses. Now a gun is dangerous in anyones hands. Its been proven over and over that prohibiting gun ownership, lowers gun crime, isn't that a good thing?

googlydoogly

And a car or a knife isn't a dangerous in anyone's hands?

It's yet to be proven that prohibiting gun ownership lowers gun crime. Because funny enough, while law-abiding citizens might grudgingly turn in their firearms because they want to follow the law, as much as they dislike it...

Do you really think criminals would turn theirs in?

And if for some reason total gun control lowers *gun* crime....I bet bludgeoning and stabbing crime would shot through the roof. [X(]

Perry S.

I would argue that guns are not made only to kill. That's a narrow vision for sure. They were made for hunting, for target shooting sport and yes, to kill. They have target shooting in the Olympics don't they. They don't get the gold for killing their opponents.
One can easily take the view then that a car is a deadly weapon in anyone's hands as you put it. How many people die per year in a car vs. being shot? Adding the liturgy of people that drink and drive and exhibit brazenly poor judgment to the mix only reinforces the argument.

I'm not sure if your speaking about the UK or the world in general but here in the US the cities with the strictest gun control have the highest violent crime rates. Chicago for instance. Make the guns illegal and the only people left with them are the people that ignore the laws. The criminals.

Perry

foodstick

I just can't believe common sense has been made unconstitutional ? We had a 13-14 year old girl that was suspended for bringing a empty shotgun round to school to show a science teacher....



A good friend of mine used to say "You can't make life fool proof, because fools are genius's at screwing up..."