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Old 02-11-2010, 09:34 PM
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Paul which screw set did you get?
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I bought the RCScrewz Hellfire RTR kit, Inoticed a few screws missing..maybe Imisplaced them, Iunno, I just sobered up and noticed a few are missing...maybe I put them somewhere. The Grabit bit helped me remove another 3 stripped screws, but one Ijust can't get out, I'll have to dremel it out I guess. Ireplaced the majority of the bottom screws, can't do the top until my shock towers and what not come in, but here's a sneak peak.
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You could also have an air leak somewhere. Check the fuel line for cracks and check the carb to make sure its tight
Is there any easy way to check for air leaks? I have inspected the fuel line and as it is all new, there do not seem to be any probs. The carb appears tight too. I'll richen it massively and see what happens to the temp.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys.

Oh, as a long shot, there is sometimes a guy on ebay who sells bulk lots of hellfire parts but he is adamant that he will not ship to the UK. As the hellfire is discontinued, parts here are few and far between. It is cheaper for me to by parts from US sellers and get them shipped here. If this guy happens to list any more bulk lots, would anyone in the US on here accept delivery for me and then reship to the UK (obviously I'd pay for the shipping)?
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:19 PM
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Ithought you could still order from HPI?Even with thier discontinued models they still make parts for them for a couple years after they are discontinued.
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:49 PM
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You could also have an air leak somewhere. Check the fuel line for cracks and check the carb to make sure its tight
Is there any easy way to check for air leaks? I have inspected the fuel line and as it is all new, there do not seem to be any probs. The carb appears tight too. I'll richen it massively and see what happens to the temp.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys.

Oh, as a long shot, there is sometimes a guy on ebay who sells bulk lots of hellfire parts but he is adamant that he will not ship to the UK. As the hellfire is discontinued, parts here are few and far between. It is cheaper for me to by parts from US sellers and get them shipped here. If this guy happens to list any more bulk lots, would anyone in the US on here accept delivery for me and then reship to the UK (obviously I'd pay for the shipping)?
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I had same issue few years back. Couldnt get parts (and you need them for the RTR HF, lots of them!)in Australia.
I ended up getting a used HF off fleabay and use it for all my spare parts needs. Its so easy to have all the parts on hand.
Since then ive puchased the SS version off ebay and it is soooo much better quality and stronger than the RTR. I have a mountain of parts to maintain mine but the SS doesnt break much.
Try and but SS parts if you can.
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Ithought you could still order from HPI?Even with thier discontinued models they still make parts for them for a couple years after they are discontinued.
The HPI Europe website in the UK has next to no parts anymore. In the UK HPI uses a distributor called Mirage Racing to supply everything.(they run the HPI Europe website). So I guess the distributor don't want to buy in parts for a car that's dicontinued.

As for buying a secondhand SS or RTR for parts off ebay, they hardly ever come up and when they do they're still about US $200+ but I keep looking there becuase I might get a bargin one oneday
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I thought you could still order from HPI? Even with thier discontinued models they still make parts for them for a couple years after they are discontinued.
The HPI Europe website in the UK has next to no parts anymore. In the UK HPI uses a distributor called Mirage Racing to supply everything.(they run the HPI Europe website). So I guess the distributor don't want to buy in parts for a car that's dicontinued.

As for buying a secondhand SS or RTR for parts off ebay, they hardly ever come up and when they do they're still about US $200+ but I keep looking there becuase I might get a bargin one oneday
On EBay, HPI Hellfire gets 880 hits. There are a number of online hobby stores that carry parts. So what's the problem again?

http://stores.ebay.com/HopMeUp__hell...0Q2em14?_pgn=2

http://www.rcplanet.com/SearchResult...h=hpi+hellfire

http://www.amainhobbies.com/advanced...filter_cat=240

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those 4.6HO always run hot if you want to get any real power out of it- if its smokin and running hot you probably have weak compression

what you get for a $100 motor

I have another tip for steering issues - epoxy the bellcrank to the servo saver post- that hex head does not hold tight in the plastic :-P
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:41 PM
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When I have my Hellfire sitting up on a stand or something that keeps the wheels off the ground the wheels can turn left and right quite a bit with out the servo horn even moving, and I dont think it is supposed to do that or am I wrong?
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Is the there enough tension on the spring on the servo saver?
Does the servo horn move too?
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:56 PM
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No the servo horn does not move when it does this because it pretty much just moves freely when i use my hand to turn the tires left and right.
How do I add more tension to the spring on the servo saver?
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:01 AM
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The bottom plate screws up to tighten the spring.
When you move the wheels back and forth what else is moving? Something must be loose
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:34 AM
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Its just the steering plate and the wheels that turn and then it goes to the servo saver and I checked the servo saver and there is little to no tension at all on the spring so I screwed that collar and it tightened and it is a little better but it is now to tight to tighten by hand so what can I use to tighten it more?
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:38 AM
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needle nose pliers should work. You dont want to over tighten it to the point the spring can flex though.
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:40 AM
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OK Thanks for your help. I will take it to the bench and see what I can get done.
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No problem. Let us know how you make out.
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No problem. Let us know how you make out.

Well that problem is fixed! Thanks for all of your help KeithjV, it is greatly appreciated.
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Cool, thats all it was? Glad we got ya going so easily.
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Finally got my Integy HD Shock towers in, I really can't see why people hate Integy so much, they seem like such good parts...even if they were "lacking" in the aluminum they use, their parts have so much MORE that there is no way stock is stronger. I took a pic of the stock aluminum shock tower right next to the Integy HD one, BIG difference.
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Are you comparing a RTR tower to the Integy? Cuz there is no way that Integy is as good as a SS part. Trust the majority of people, Integy is crappola.
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You mean am I compareing a 15$ shock tower to a 45+$ shock tower?No I'm comparing it to the stock one, which Iposted a photo of :P, Integy parts sure do look nice though, and they are def beefy.
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Yeah the RTR shock towers bend very easily. The SS are quite good quality.
The integy surely must be better than the stock.
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SS towers are $39 at AMain or
http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-Hellfire-Bil...item5639adb861
But some people have to learn the hard way. Integy are not better than the RTR towers.
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SS towers are $39 at AMain or
http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-Hellfire-Bil...item5639adb861
But some people have to learn the hard way. Integy are not better than the RTR towers.
How do you know this? Because you, or someone else bashed their Hellfire or raced it, and a Integy tower bent?How does that prove that it is "weaker " than the RTR tower when the Integy HD, is just by the eye, clearly beefier...maybe I'm missing something, but if someone shows me a concrete wall, then a concrete wall twice as thick, and asks which is stronger, I'm going to say the doubled up one. You have to have some pretty impressive stuff to be half as dense and maintain the same strength, and I'm pretty darn sure these flimsy rtr stock towers aren't. If they do bend down the road then I will invest in HPI's expensive shock tower solution.

Finally put the Hellfire back together, and installed all the stainless steel screws, now with the HR aluminum braces and the new shock towers, it's definantly sturdier. Once Iget my piggy-back shocks it'll be complete.

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I dont have any personal experience with Integy shock towers, but I have heard some of their stuff is made with a softer grade of aluminum. So it could be possible for a shock tower to be thicker and still be weaker at the same time. Im not saying this is the case with these shock towers, just in general. And on that same note, more expensive doesnt always equal better quality either.
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