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Old 10-06-2010, 02:46 PM
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Default ZIROLI 94" P-40 WARHAWK BUILD

I just picked up a Ziroli P-40 kit which has:
FG fuse
complete wood kit
cowl
canopy
gear
exhaust (cast resin)
FG strut fairings
FG belly pan
spinner
dbalsa cockpit

The plans show a one piece wing but I'd like to make it a 3 piece.
Any feedback on this would be appreciated.

I was going to put my Brison 95cc in her but a DA-85 may be better.
I'll probably do the flying tigers scheme.
Not sure when I'll start on the P-40 as I will probably, first, do the SBD dauntless.

If you got pictures or suggestions from your build, please post.
thanks

pic 1:
cowl, canopy, gear, exhaust, strut fairings, belly pan, spinner, dbalsa cockpit.

pic 2/3:
The seam on the bottom of the FG fuse got damaged in the shipping box.
Shouldn't be bad to fix.

pic 4:
wing ribs and plans.

pic 5:
wing parts, stab and elevator and plans.

pic 6:
not sure what these spar parts are for!

pic 7:
plans for the wood fuse: only need the fin/rudder detail.

pic 8:
FG fuse formers and plans.
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Old 10-06-2010, 03:20 PM
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Hey Sam, built it in flying tigers colors, it will look good flying with mine,Chuck is finishing his p40 in tiger colors also,maybe we can do a flying tigers salute! Rich
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Old 10-06-2010, 03:49 PM
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Yo Rich,
Sounds like a 'plan' to me!
I kind of like the striped blue rudder.
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Old 10-06-2010, 07:37 PM
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Three piece wing:
My buddy came over and we started brainstorming.
With the folding retracts, a wing tube is unlikely but it looks like an aluminum spar that's sistered to the main spar should work. The outer wing can be held on using the aluminum flat C clamp with bolts as used on yellow's texan.
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three piece wing.

pic 1:
this should work.
main spar using a yellow texan C clamp and a smaller byron F6F C clamp towards the rear of the wing.
The main gear is pretty close to the fuse so the outer wings removed will make the rest of the plane pretty narrow. I can double up the rib just past the retracts (rib W-5). Each outer wing will be 33": that makes the center wing only 28".
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Hey Sam,

What do you plan to power this bird with?

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Old 10-06-2010, 09:45 PM
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I'm thinking a DA-85.
She will probably be like my P-47: around 38 lbs, which has a 3W-75.
Will be an operational canopy, main/tail doors.
Only cowl flaps on the bottom so I probably won't add functional cowl flaps.
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Old 10-06-2010, 09:49 PM
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I'm in for watching this one....and glad for it since I am building the exact same kit setup right now.. Am up to mating the wing to fuse and installing fuse components with stab already mounted on mine. Still unsure of scheme. Interested to see your choice. Hopefully can squeeze in a fly in next summer with the P40 Midwest contingency above.
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Hello Sam, good to see you have a crack at a P-40, Its has been a fav of mine for a long time. A guy in Australia took a mould of a Ziroli years ago and kitted it as his own with foam cores and basic glass parts. I have been building one for about a year and modified it to be a P-40f of sorts, but it has been a joy to build Mine will end up around 32-34 pounds and will be motivated by a DLE55. There are not a lot of things to do before finishing.Here are some pics, happy building.Cheers Trent
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thanks for the pics.

Trent,
Looks good.
post some videos when she's in the air.

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three piece wing.

pic 1:
Lowes had some 1" and 1 1/4" X 1/8" thick aluminum stock that should work.
I'll use my P-61 plans for guidance.

pic 2:
All the parts have been individually bagged and marked by major part (wing, fuse, stab, etc) and put on the 'P-40' shelf for when I start the build: sometime this winter.
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Are you going to split the flaps at the wing joint or make one long flap that plugs into drive sockets ala Byrons P-40?
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good point: I haven't thought about that.
I'll probably do like my C-45 is designed: the flap will be cut even with the end of the wings and use a pin to move the non-servo side: put some rivets along each side of the split to look like a panel line joining two sheets of surface covering.
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Hello Sam,I have a Ziroli p-40 with a Quadra 75 engine in it. It finally took to the air this year but unknown to me there was a twist in the wing and made flying it a handfull. I have the parts for a new wing so will build it this winter. I did not build the plane. but the rest of the plane FG fuselage is in great shape. Also done in the Flying Tigers colors. A 3 pc wing sounds great as it's like a surfboard when it's one piece. And it can suffer more hanger rash than you could possibly imagine.
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In reference to post #1, picture #6: The single part with the rounded top, is the drop-out from Figerglass Fuselage Former #FG-5 (where the Tail Retract mounts).

In reference to post #1, picture #6: The four (4) slight curved pieces are parts: #W-3B (2 ea.) and #W-4B (2 ea.) (they give skin support at W-3A AND W-4A. They are shown on Sheet #2 and on Retract Installation drawing (small sheet).

Not sure of the four rectangle pieces marked: "SMD", may be servo mount support brackets.

The part marked: "PM" (or DM), if it is the Rudder Control Horn Plate (there should be 2 of them, one each side).
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Thanks, Hogrider.
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Oh boy Sammy!!!

I am starting on my P-40 as well! This will be fun next year!!
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Sam,

Did you follow my P-40 build thread. I had a ton of pictures on it. I built the fuse but thats the only difference.

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Sam,

You are a MACHINE !!!!!!
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Old 10-11-2010, 02:54 PM
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Yo Barry,
Yep, I always check others threads before doing my builds.
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Well forget the Dauntless and get this P-40 going. Or build them at the same time like I'm doing with the P-40 and 2 Corsairs!

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Yo PJ,
You've got the FG or wood fuse (I'm assuming a Ziroli!)?
You go to the Monster flyin?
Looks like a cool event.
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