ESM Dornier DO 335
12-19-2010, 07:45 PM
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It’s no real big deal, fellas; just a plane we’re talkin’ ‘bout. Again, I thought of the 180/120 (30cc/20cc) but I’ve learned to go with my gut on “some” things. I can be persuaded here and there, but I know what I know. I know that if I go with anything less, and the same thing happened as it did with my Cessna 337 Skymaster, I will be majorly pissed at ME and walkin’ around sayin’ “I knew it, I freakin’ knew it.” And then when I posted it, you guys would be sayin’, “Ahh, Mr DJ, man, sorry for your loss” and other bla, bla, bla and then continue on with your lives.
Ya’ll know I’m right.
With my 55/30 arrangement, I will at least have a fighting chance if the exact same thing happens; if I crash for other reasons: ol well – no biggy. That’s life in our hobby, and to me, it is only a hobby. But the real reason why I’m stickin’ to it is because I already ordered those expensive a&& Biela props – ya’ll know what I’m talkin’ ‘bout. A 20x10 3-bld for the 55 and a (special order) 16x8 3-bld pusher and 18x10 2-bld pusher for the 30. That's a few hundred $ right there. 
And now for your entertainment pleasure, a dead stick takeoff maiden of a $1000 bird two weeks ago http://vimeo.com/17494940 Surprisingly, no damage...
Mr DJ
12-20-2010, 08:50 AM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
Ty,
I put the math on that bird and the result is about factor 1.6.
Lets assume the bird is balanced with a MAC of 23%, one engine in front. For every pound you add in the rear you have to add 1.6 pounds in the front. This factor goes higher when you mount the counter weight aft the prop shaft (like after the firewall, 3 inches less the factor goes up to 1.8).
What the manual recommendation of the CG location?
I put the math on that bird and the result is about factor 1.6.
Lets assume the bird is balanced with a MAC of 23%, one engine in front. For every pound you add in the rear you have to add 1.6 pounds in the front. This factor goes higher when you mount the counter weight aft the prop shaft (like after the firewall, 3 inches less the factor goes up to 1.8).
What the manual recommendation of the CG location?
12-20-2010, 10:49 AM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
Manual says 151mm....
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12-20-2010, 11:19 AM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
My smaller one balances fine with the batteries rignt behind the firewall.
You might be fine with two Poer 110s if you want you use smaller batteries. I would just use what ever motor you have batteries for to save $.
I am waiting for the P-39 to come out. That's one I must have
Looks great! Can't wait to see how you set it up.
Merry Christmas!
BTW - I didn't have to drill any holes in the back plate of the P-40. It came out perfect on the CG.
Jeff
You might be fine with two Poer 110s if you want you use smaller batteries. I would just use what ever motor you have batteries for to save $.
I am waiting for the P-39 to come out. That's one I must have
Looks great! Can't wait to see how you set it up.
Merry Christmas!
BTW - I didn't have to drill any holes in the back plate of the P-40. It came out perfect on the CG.
Jeff
12-20-2010, 12:05 PM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
Jeff,
I think I have the same; well, at least in the mail. I completely forgot all about it; arriving today according to the tracking number. Will post real photos this evening. Comes complete RTF with transmitter at a mere $90
Mr DJ
I think I have the same; well, at least in the mail. I completely forgot all about it; arriving today according to the tracking number. Will post real photos this evening. Comes complete RTF with transmitter at a mere $90
Mr DJ
12-20-2010, 12:30 PM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
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Manual says 151mm....
Ty
Manual says 151mm....
Ty
Are the measurements in the picture any close to your model? Especially the Wing root
12-20-2010, 12:50 PM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
I think they are saying 151mm from the break of the first fairing ... that would put it further back. that is aboutt 9" back from the root.....
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12-20-2010, 01:00 PM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
Here is a pic of the 160 setup in the rear. I can put the batteries in the fuel tank area that is on the CG. then add the speed control and then all i have is an extra 12" to the 160 wires...
The only weight at the rear will be the 160 prop and spinner....
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The only weight at the rear will be the 160 prop and spinner....
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12-20-2010, 01:03 PM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
There are really nice and deep panel lines in the fuse. In the front which would be the gun hood will be a nice place to add ahatch for the batteries for the front motor....
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12-20-2010, 01:05 PM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
Pic's of CG from manual
12-20-2010, 01:08 PM
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I think they are saying 151mm from the break of the first fairing ... that would put it further back. that is aboutt 9'' back from the root.....
Ty
I think they are saying 151mm from the break of the first fairing ... that would put it further back. that is aboutt 9'' back from the root.....
Ty
Here is a German/German one...the German RC guys keep the speed up at landing
Flying through Diesel explosions - nice smoke rings - buy a lot residue when you pass this cloud. Check out the Mustang on the end of the clip. I thought first, "what a cool weathering job".... [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h2nvQq4RxI[/youtube]
12-20-2010, 01:16 PM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
Mine is a scaled down Al Masters Do-335 (66" wing).
You may have to get the batteries farther forward behind the firewall if you go electric and use the same size motors front and rear. I have two Power 46s on mine. Flies great and sound really interesting in the air.
Lands easy like a jet.
Jeff
You may have to get the batteries farther forward behind the firewall if you go electric and use the same size motors front and rear. I have two Power 46s on mine. Flies great and sound really interesting in the air.
Lands easy like a jet.
Jeff
12-20-2010, 02:16 PM
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Hey Guy's Check out the best do335 ive ever seen www.evoshangar.com Awsome Warbirds The Build is a hybrid half gas - half brushless ... evan quiros builder.. [&:]
Awsome Warbirds The Build is a hybrid half gas - half brushless ... evan quiros builder.. [&:]
12-20-2010, 02:31 PM
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Link doesn't work?
Here's the one I have:
[link=http://www.wingsontheweb.com/do335/index.php]Do-335[/link]
Here's the one I have:
[link=http://www.wingsontheweb.com/do335/index.php]Do-335[/link]
12-20-2010, 02:34 PM
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Hey Guy's Check out the best do335 ive ever seen www.evoshanger.com Awsome Warbirds evan quiros builder..[&:]
Hey Guy's Check out the best do335 ive ever seen www.evoshanger.com
Awsome Warbirds evan quiros builder..[&:]
here is the good one [link=http://evoshangar.homestead.com/home.html]http://evoshangar.homestead.com/home.html[/link]
12-20-2010, 02:34 PM
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It works; it was misspelled: www.evoshangar.com Once there, click the button for the DO.
It is freakin' awsome!!!
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It is freakin' awsome!!!
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12-20-2010, 02:41 PM
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Ty
Check out the wing guns; can you duplicate for our bird?
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Check out the wing guns; can you duplicate for our bird?
Mr DJ
12-20-2010, 02:44 PM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
That request has already been made. Will see what I can do. Each may be a 2 part ABS piece you have to put together...
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12-20-2010, 02:52 PM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
Here is a pic of the Nose gear from Sierra ...
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12-20-2010, 06:36 PM
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Do Jr just arrived...
This thing is nice for $90.
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This thing is nice for $90.
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12-20-2010, 07:24 PM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
Evan's D0-335 was flown at Warbirds over the Rockies late Sept. It was nearly a pile of scrap as he didnt use near enough runway(400ft out of an 800ft runway) to take off. It stalled 3 times just after takeoff to the point it was SOOOO low on the 3rd stall/recovery, you couldnt even see the plane below a slight dip in the ground.
Evan's a pro pilot and never gave up on it and once flying with speed, it was an awesome site to see. It did land a little fast, but i think he was still nervous.
Evan's a pro pilot and never gave up on it and once flying with speed, it was an awesome site to see. It did land a little fast, but i think he was still nervous.
12-20-2010, 11:43 PM
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I would wait until you get it to make your final decision. This plane has alot of wing area.. The 180/120 sound better to me....
ty
I would wait until you get it to make your final decision. This plane has alot of wing area.. The 180/120 sound better to me....
ty
Smells like two RCV 1.20 are good powerplant for that... http://www.rcvengines.com/rcv120sp.htm
Good Luck and congratulations for your model!!!!
12-21-2010, 05:09 AM
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The Model says 83''x 83'' length/wingspan but i measured the wing span and got 84'' and you really won't know the lenght until you get spinners on this thing... The manual shows you can use 2 120 four strokes and they don't cut into the outline too much. . I am sure you can find 2 low profile gas motors for this thing. I think they were suggesting a 50 cc if you were not putting a rear motor on the plane at all....
I got mine from VQ Warbirds. They will carry the plane and all the accessories that will be available. I should be started on the cockpit for this one in about 2 weeks. I have the Val in line first...
DJ, I would really consider returning the Landing Gear and getting the Sierra. This is a really nice plane and I just don't thing the ESM gear will hold up. The Sierra Gear will be more expensive but they will be the best.
Ty
The Model says 83''x 83'' length/wingspan but i measured the wing span and got 84'' and you really won't know the lenght until you get spinners on this thing... The manual shows you can use 2 120 four strokes and they don't cut into the outline too much. . I am sure you can find 2 low profile gas motors for this thing. I think they were suggesting a 50 cc if you were not putting a rear motor on the plane at all....
I got mine from VQ Warbirds. They will carry the plane and all the accessories that will be available. I should be started on the cockpit for this one in about 2 weeks. I have the Val in line first...
DJ, I would really consider returning the Landing Gear and getting the Sierra. This is a really nice plane and I just don't thing the ESM gear will hold up. The Sierra Gear will be more expensive but they will be the best.
Ty
12-21-2010, 06:18 AM
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another good vid-but this of the anteater
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFf4zKtmaMM&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFf4zKtmaMM&feature=player_embedded#!
12-21-2010, 06:25 AM
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RE: ESM Dornier DO 335
Any word from Darrell on the price of the retract set?
