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Old 10-18-2011, 12:55 PM
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Hi Jack,

You can actually mix sand with your paint (very small grit) and it will come out as non skid. Try it on a test piece of material and see what you think. You can't use an airbrush, but a large paint gun can handle it.
Old 10-18-2011, 01:36 PM
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JPate, great idea.
I guess I will try with microballoons first. Will let you know if they are not too fine a grain.

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Old 10-18-2011, 01:41 PM
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Jack,
The stand you have for the P 47, did you make, or is that a BVM stand, I guess I need a stand for my P 47. Looks great so far Jack!! Joe C!!!
Old 10-18-2011, 01:48 PM
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Hi Joe, thanks again for your friendship and hospitality at BITW. We had a great time.

Regarding the stand, see my post 281 on page 12.


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Old 10-18-2011, 09:57 PM
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Thanks Jack, I new it was a BVM stand, thanks. Joe C!!!
Old 10-19-2011, 01:33 AM
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Looking good Jack! that will look awesome in the air

I'm wondering how your surface detail is looking with paint applied ? do the rivets show through, or has the paint covered them up ? I'm concerned with losing a lot of the finder detail with how shallow it is ...


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Old 10-19-2011, 10:06 AM
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ORIGINAL: Jack Diaz

Some progress.
Still a LOT of work to do.....
HI JACK
Have to say that looks awesome you have done an exelent job on that,have to say I have chosen the same sceam,Looks like your decals came from the same place,I have been doing all my scale details such as sliding canopy/cowl flaps/ landing lights,also slide out for the rx and air gear plus axeces doors has turned out to be a slow job but very satestfing,
well worth the effort,Read in MOKI maintainance, To bend the tube they use sand and sutch ,But an old mate of mine down here used lead,Yes lead bends a real tight radius when done you just melt the lead out works well .
REGARDS
JOHN
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:58 AM
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regarding the nonskid. 3M makes a spray on product that looks pretty good. The last I used was from one of the big home improvement stores.
I have also seen guys that lay a heavy coat of paint, sprinkle salt in the wet paint, then spray one more coat on top to dull the sharp apperance of the crystals.
Old 10-19-2011, 04:51 PM
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I just arrived to the island of Aruba with the family ... they wanted a break from the smell of paint, I guess.
As soon as I arrived to the hotel, the first thing I did was to go to the beach and grab a bag of fine sand !!!!! to do the nonskid.
This r/c fever is incurable !!!

Wojtek: I did not paint color over color (stars and bars were the only exception), and I paint light (grey, green, black and white colors cover very good). The surface details ware not affected at all. In fact, I can see now some rivets and stuff that I didn't realize when silver. So, don't worry about it. Just paint light. I guess the secret is not to try to paint in one single coat. I do a light dust coat first and about 10 minutes later a final coat. BTW, I am very satisfied with the Dynamic Balsa cockpit kit. I did some framing to the fuse to hold the sides and the floor. I can post some pics next week when I get back, if somebody is interested

JeffH, I will try the salt if my Aruba sand doesn't work ....LOL. I heard of salt before to do the paint chips at the leading edges. Thanks for the advise

John: glad you liked it. I really like that scheme. I researched some details and info with the people at Duxford in charge of the restoration of the SNAFU. They were extremely helpful. (They are expecting a picture of mine to post on their web page..... what a challenge that is imposing on my job.... I can't get it wrong.... .
I bent the Moki tube by hand with no problem. Now I don't know if shouldn't have[]

Out to dinner now

Jack
Old 10-20-2011, 01:27 PM
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To all CARF P-47 owners,

I am looking to get Revoc wing and tail bags made for my P-47. Would one of you consider filling out this wing / tall bag form?

Ihave Revoc wing/tails bags for several of my planes and they are great. Once the form filled out, it would be good to have it verified. I have the numbers verified for all the first time bags to make sure they are good for any future purchaser of Revoc since these measurements will end up being the master.

http://www.revoc.eu/

I have attached a PDF of the form.

Thanks,
John
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:08 AM
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Wojtek, I forgot to mention: I didn't sand the plane. I used fine steel wool for paint adhesion.
jack
Old 10-27-2011, 12:02 AM
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ORIGINAL: Jack Diaz

Guys, I am LMAO....
I just arrived to the island of Aruba with the family ... they wanted a break from the smell of paint, I guess.
As soon as I arrived to the hotel, the first thing I did was to go to the beach and grab a bag of fine sand !!!!! to do the nonskid.
This r/c fever is incurable !!!

Wojtek: I did not paint color over color (stars and bars were the only exception), and I paint light (grey, green, black and white colors cover very good). The surface details ware not affected at all. In fact, I can see now some rivets and stuff that I didn't realize when silver. So, don't worry about it. Just paint light. I guess the secret is not to try to paint in one single coat. I do a light dust coat first and about 10 minutes later a final coat. BTW, I am very satisfied with the Dynamic Balsa cockpit kit. I did some framing to the fuse to hold the sides and the floor. I can post some pics next week when I get back, if somebody is interested

JeffH, I will try the salt if my Aruba sand doesn't work ....LOL. I heard of salt before to do the paint chips at the leading edges. Thanks for the advise

John: glad you liked it. I really like that scheme. I researched some details and info with the people at Dufford in charge of the restoration of the SNAFU. They were extremely helpful. (They are expecting a picture of mine to post on their web page..... what a challenge that is imposing on my job.... I can't get it wrong.... .
I bent the Moki tube by hand with no problem. Now I don't know if shouldn't have[]

Out to dinner now

Jack
HI Jack
Well I can see that they gave you some pretty good advice,Had gone through my mind to contact them and can now see why would like some shots of her,Tell my jack if you don,t mind,The green is that close to the colour of SNAFU in the shot in front of the hanger,Some say it needs a bit more brown But I like it the way it looks a bit greener.
REGARDS
JOHN
Old 10-29-2011, 03:03 PM
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More progress.... and still lots to do.

Dento, the green is "RAF Dark Green". The computer screen doesn't reproduce the color accurately. In addition, different angles of the full size show variations of the color.

There are good pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwhitwo...th/5832429554/

Jack
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Nonskid: tried different methods. The best one is black paint with Microballoons . Can be applied with air brush.
Great results.
Attached is a test with more microballoons than needed, but shows results.

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Old 10-29-2011, 10:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: Jack Diaz

More progress.... and still lots to do.

Dento, the green is ''RAF Dark Green''. The computer screen doesn't reproduce the color accurately. In addition, different angles of the full size show variations of the color.

There are good pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwhitwo...th/5832429554/

Jack
G-Day Jack
I think you have to go with what colour your happy with and if it,s close so be it,And thank,s for your help,Not sure what stage your at with hatches and such I cut my switch hatch up the front near the cowl flap,s and hid the latch under the cowl flaps also added a what I call a pop up a spring loaded pin that pops the hatch when you hit the latch very handy have added some shots if you can follow. 1st shot hatch 2nd you may just see the pop up in the middle 3rd hatch sitting on pop up
regards
john
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Hello Jack.
Could you explain us how do you have apply the weathering on the plane?
Do you have a pln for the location of the nomenclature? I have all the nomenclature but I don't know where to put it....
Thanks a lot for your answer.
Best regards.
Philippe
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Hi Excellent paint job Jack, looks real gooood.

Cheers Nudge
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Here is a reference on locations of nonmenclures

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Right and top view
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Here are some pictures of my install. Got to work on canopy, throttle connection, figure out how I will do choke and then prep for paint.

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Old 11-05-2011, 10:58 AM
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Some cockpit details

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Hi Jack,

The P-47 is looking amazing i'll have to have one some time. Is this going to be your next plane for Top Gun?
Old 11-05-2011, 12:21 PM
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Hi Greg, your F-100 is just awesome. The burned Titanium technique couldn't have a more realistic look. Congrats.

I am enjoying the build of the P-47. Great kit, and combined with the Moki 250, is an state of the art toy

Regarding Top Gun, my territory is BVM JETS.

Will see you at Florida Jets?

Jack


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