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    Quote Originally Posted by ticketec View Post
    Ah, thanks mate, I knew that there must of been something I missed! They look interesting, but the prop on your model looks like the blade are quite "fat" like the real Dora's blades? I didn't see that on their website.

    vario prop do make larger gasser props, just not listed on the site. I know he does a 1/4 scale 190 prop and a 109 shaped prop as well. VERY nice, but around $500

    thanks

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    Dave, he has them up on his site now....listed under 32i

    http://varioprop.de/home_e/varioprop...rioprop_e.html

    Its cheaper than $500.00!

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    If my conversion serves me correctly, the prop hub is 230EUR=316US and the blades are 46EURx3 = 189.87...Is that $505.87US?????

    Purdy but seriously!! I can't wait for my skill to justify these..When I never nose over or break props..

    A friend sent me a link to a adjustable pitch Japanese prop for $190 and I laughed at that.. This is down right hilarious. Come on powerball!!
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    If this can be made by Biela, I wonder why a scale smaller prop couldn't be for the money?

    http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/BP3214-3FW.html

    It would be worth it at that price!
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    Oops thats right....eruo's. I've got both the 3 and 4 blade 16d hubs with 20" blades. They are damn nice!

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    I would love to have a set, flaring would be a lot more purpose driven..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramstein44 View Post
    I would love to have a set, flaring would be a lot more purpose driven..lol
    Haha, sure would! I can honestly say I've never nosed over the Dora yet. Watch, it will happen on the next flight now!!

    Seidel prop's offer an interesting service in that you tell them the size of model, engine, flying speed, and they do the rest for you in terms of pitch and diameter. out comes what should be the perfect prop on the other side! clearly I have found other things to spend $300 on because I don't have one....

    I do have Fw shaped solo prop blades, just no hub! I should do something about that.

    Thanks

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    second flight of my fw 190 d9!

    i thought it would be better to fly it before painting in case a had any building issues.
    everything seems to be ok except that its a little sensitive while landing and it has the tendency to drop a wingtip while touching the ground scratching the tip of the wing underneath.

    generally plane flies like on rails!


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    Congratulations Dimitri!!! I am looking forward to see it painted!!! Very good flight and seems also very easy to land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panioul View Post
    Congratulations Dimitri!!! I am looking forward to see it painted!!! Very good flight and seems also very easy to land.
    thank you very much Panagiotis!, painting is the most difficult part of the project because i have many expectations from that!
    plane flies very well and lands slowly enough.
    i hope you finish your Dora soon, so we could see two of those beatiful planes to fly in Hellas skies!

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    Dgiatr,

    Just took a look at some of the things you are doing..The large 3 blade gives your D9 an edge on most of the other stuff built here. Its impressive.

    What tools to make the exhaust? Is it tig welding?

    Long thread. Did you feature your cowling work here? Page?

    I will be joining in here before too much longer.

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    last flight before painting

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    Quote Originally Posted by corsair183 View Post
    Dgiatr,

    Just took a look at some of the things you are doing..The large 3 blade gives your D9 an edge on most of the other stuff built here. Its impressive.

    What tools to make the exhaust? Is it tig welding?

    Long thread. Did you feature your cowling work here? Page?

    I will be joining in here before too much longer.
    thank you corsair 183! you are absolutely right about the big prop! i really wanted to swing a big prop!!!!
    it was really very hard to put a 75 cc gas engine inside that small cowling but the most difficult part of all was to make the exhaust system of that engine in such a way as to avoid any side cowling cuttings. you are right about the exhaust, its a custom tig welding exhaust system, which i made by cutting in the middle the stock pitts muffler i got with my 3W engine. cowling work isn't something special, i just opened cowl flaps to a permanent open position in order to make some cooling for the exhaust. i will post some pics if you want. Click image for larger version. 

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    Okay, yes that would be great. I was thinking you had made the cowl flaps operational....Still yes, I would like to see the pics... congratulations on fitting the 75 inside the cowl and the very well done landing....

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    Corsair183,
    I was the one earlier in the thread talking about the operational cowl flaps. There are a couple people that have done them. Several different ways to do them ranging from the simple to the more complicated like the Full Size plane.


    Heres a link of my D9 build where I detail how I did mine among many other upgrades such as the split operational gear doors, molding a new gun hood, cutting paint masks etc. enjoy

    You'll have to create an account to view but RCSB is one of the best scale forums on the net. Well worth it. If you like it you can do a membership, but it isn't necessary to view.


    http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21256&PN=0&TPN=
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    By the way Dgiatr, beautiful job on your plane. Nice landing too
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    Dowmer,

    Thanks for the link. I will spend some time looking at your work.

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    In the process of fitting the Sierra gear. With the gear fitted with the Oleo strut facing normally.... toward the wing trailing edge, the main strut was offset to the point that it was almost impossible to fit correctly. Installed the gear with the Oleo Struts facing the leading edge of the wing and the strut was just about on center of the wheel well. Not sure if my gear was assembled backwards?

    Switched the lower gear assembly.....reversed the Oleo struts and everything appears to be good. Has anyone run unto this issue?

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    FS,
    Without a pic I'm having a hard time picturing in my head what you are describing. In my post above #2689 I have a link to my build thread where I have a lot of pics and descriptions on how I installed my Sierras. It might be helpful. Also, Ramstein has tons of experience putting these gear in so he might have some ideas. Be sure you have them oriented correctly with the support link on the backside of the main oleo strut. To get the wheels straight, the body of the gear in the wing will have quite an angle to them and you will have to cut the rails to get them to fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dowmer View Post
    FS,
    Without a pic I'm having a hard time picturing in my head what you are describing. In my post above #2689 I have a link to my build thread where I have a lot of pics and descriptions on how I installed my Sierras. It might be helpful. Also, Ramstein has tons of experience putting these gear in so he might have some ideas. Be sure you have them oriented correctly with the support link on the backside of the main oleo strut. To get the wheels straight, the body of the gear in the wing will have quite an angle to them and you will have to cut the rails to get them to fit.

    +1

    pic's please

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    Hi Guys
    Looking for acceptable rattle can colors

    Haven't settled on a scheme yet, but all the ones I like have the light/medium green, the dark green or grayish/green, blue/gray base, and maybe a yellow rudder, and stripes (easier to see).

    From what I have been able to find, thinking those colors are RLM 76, 81,82,83. Also finding that the German colors varied a lot like the US colors did, with RLM76 being anything from a baby blueish color, to gray, with a touch of blue.
    The Kryon camo 4293 and 4396 look like they might work for the medium and dark greens, yellow, black and white shouldn't be a problem, but the gray......

    What have you all found for acceptable rattle can colors?

    Ram, what paint did you use on yours? That is still one of my favorites....if it only have a yellow rudder!

    This thing has been sitting in the corner for far too long. Getting some other projects wrapped up, and I really want to get this one in the air this summer
    Thanks

    http://www.cybermodeler.com/color/rlm_matrix.shtml

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    Anyone?
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    Ragtop,
    that's a classic clip....awesome. You also have chosen some nice profiles above. I personally like the yellow cowls and tails as well.

    As far as rattle can paint, Im not sure how many people use it because it is difficult to find the right colors to look right. Then you have to find flat or Satin finish and the fumes....etc.

    I use a cheap air gun from harbor freight and use latex from Home Depot and Lowes. Exact color matches, cheap in little pint sized cans and it works great. I do use rattle can Rustoleum primer which seems to work well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dowmer View Post
    Ragtop,
    that's a classic clip....awesome. You also have chosen some nice profiles above. I personally like the yellow cowls and tails as well.

    As far as rattle can paint, Im not sure how many people use it because it is difficult to find the right colors to look right. Then you have to find flat or Satin finish and the fumes....etc.

    I use a cheap air gun from harbor freight and use latex from Home Depot and Lowes. Exact color matches, cheap in little pint sized cans and it works great. I do use rattle can Rustoleum primer which seems to work well.
    Same here.But I buy the primary colors by the gallon....
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    Thanks guys

    I'm OK spraying it, I just don't have colors to have HD, or Lowes match. Do you have them match a picture, or spray samples and have them match that? I sprayed samples, what did you uses for the samples. Seems to be a lot a variations in shades within a RLM#. Outright different colors on a bunch
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    Rag, I take in the actual color chip set from the Merrick Luftwaffe Camo Vol II in to them and they match to it right there in the store. monogram is another chip sample set if you have it. If you can, try to get one of these references and you'll never need another reference for Luftwaffe camo and insignia placement.
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