n8622t

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I agree...as long as yer not nose heavy

ablesrc

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LBJ
Cap10b is right on. I built mine slightly nose heavy and used recomended elevator throw as high rate and about 10 numbers less for low rate. I very seldom used high rate elevator. The Wild Hare F6F is a great flying war bird.

I really like your color scheme. Good luck. Hope to see you at Warbirds over Texas.

RLA

n8622t

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Thanks LBJ....it will be a Hellcat invasion

LBJ

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From the manual. Just want to make sure the elevator throw below is for standard flight. It seems to say these are for 3D flying.

Control Throws

We set the control throws as follows on planes in test. Please keep in mind the high rates specified here are for 3d. The elevator in particular at these rates will cause instant stalling, tumbling, and all sorts of other things that can only be done at low speeds. Do not use the 3d settings until you are thoroughly familiar with the plane on low rates.

Ailerons 1 inch each way with –30% expo (+30% on JR or Spektrum)

Elevators 3/4� each way with –35-40% expo

Ruder low rate 3/4�, high rate move as far as possible, -30-40% expo

Fly the plane on low rates at first. You will probably want to use high rate rudder taxiing on the ground but don’t forget to switch to low rate before takeoff.

cap10b

I have the settings stored in my transmitter at home I will post what I have for low and high rate.

JDS

rctom

I specified a high and a low rate for a reason.

After the plane has been flown a few times and you are used to it you might want to experiment with a high rate to see what it does. Be warned that it will be an adventure, have plenty of altitude when you try it the first time.

But you should always have a low rate fallback. I have personally had planes I built set up with too much throw and once in the air it proved unflyable. I once had an Extra with way too much aileron throw and no low rate (this was years ago when I was less wise than I am now). I got the plane in the air and when I went to make the first turn I found the plane inverted because it rolled so fast. I did manage to get it upright and kept it going for a minute or two, but eventually it proved to be beyond my ability to fly it.

Now I always have a very low rate available on all surfaces, just in case.

TF

LBJ

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Tom, good points. But, if you say 3D elevator is 3/4" each way, and is sufficient to snap/stall it, then what would be a good setting for standard rates? 3/8" each way? See my point? How much is plenty? What is the minimum setting? You don't show a low rate setting in inches for the elevator or ailerons. 3/4" is all that's there. No use programming 3/4" each way if that's gonna snap on top of a loop or on take off or landing. No need to even have that in the radio for my purposes since I fly pretty much scale. Never flown 3D. I routinely fly with HI/LOW rates set in. Low rate is typically 80 percent of the Hi rate. I also fly with +40 expo on my Spektrum 2.4.

splais

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I just talked to Tom about something else. I purchased his test model F6F and am getting it all spruced up. The 3/4" throw is the low rate. He suggested putting the elevator on a three-way switch intially so you could program a high-low(3/4")-even lower rate, just in case.

cap10b

Oh so you got the second proto type, good deal. I didnt fly that plane much infact Tom hogged all the testing on it for him self. Don't blame him.

Got lots of photos and some videos of that plane with David flying it and Tom.

JDS

splais

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Yes, it's a great plane. I've had 2 or 3 giant scale warbirds and this WH F6F is a peach of a plane. Too bad won't be anymore around.

Has anyone figured out a matching spray paint color for that grey on the underside of the plane/cowl? thanks.

PS: I'll post some pics when I get a little further along; new graphics, pilot, guns, antenna, prop, etc

Capt G

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See my post # 100 ref the paint.

LBJ

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"Yes, it's a great plane. I've had 2 or 3 giant scale warbirds and this WH F6F is a peach of a plane. Too bad won't be anymore around. "


Tom, what's the next Wild Hare Warbird gonna be? Any plans? Believe it or not, there's a gap in the giant scale P-51 market in the 100 inch range as far as being affordable. Comp ARF has one but it's at least $4K finished out. Beyond the $$$ of most of the guys here. A giant P-51 built-up like the F6F would be great to have and fun to fly.

cap10b

Think 30cc Spitfire.

tms261

what do you mean there wont be any more around? Tom's not getting any more? Lucky I was on the list very early. Its been very hard to find time to work on mine. Almost finished. All you fellas have done fantastic jobs on yours. Mine will look pretty much standard. Thats ok, I just wanna FLY the thing!

I hope Tom does bring out a Spit or two. 20 or 30cc as Tom hinted last year.

LBJ

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ESM already has both a 30cc and a 50cc Spitfire. Not much use competing with those.

Another bird that has a "gap" is a 50cc size FW-190A series. Wow, make a great flyer if built like the Hellcat.

My favorite piston engine fighter of all time.

Lifer

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There's a lot to be said for the sellers reputation. Tom, how many people need to commit to your Spitfire for you to go ahead with the order? You have a good name in the industry and I would be willing to commit with a deposit.

tms261

+1

Capt G

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What there is a real shortage in the market of is 90" + warbirds.

splais

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If the economy ever pics up and the F6F becomes available again I really hope it comes with a clear canopy that will retrofit the current model. This plane just cries out to be scaled up.

LBJ

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I'd really like to know what philosophy/thought/research goes into creating the next ARF, for any corp, big or small. Funny thing, all that creative energy generally ends up building yet another P-51! hahaha

bladebender

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Tom will you be getting any more of these F6F

bladebender

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Tom will you be getting any more of these F6F

cap10b

All,
For F6F availability I was told "Maybe" after the economy turns around. The creative energy expended is proprietary I was told, I wanted a book to be written about it and it was not a good idea. At this time there is no newer version of the F6F, any updates will depend on the Chinese builder, its possible to make a $600 plane cost $1000 without retracts but thats not what WildHare wanted to do.
I have had this discussion about EMS with managment and WH is not concerned with them. The customer base for Wildhare is different from Troybuilt. From what I have been told WH is not LOOKING to fill a gap or shortage in the hobby, WH builds planes they like to fly. The goal of the F6F was to supply an ARF with two piece wing, easy to transport, easy to own and opperate, not a WHITE Knuckler, meaning easy to fly above all. I think the the plane is a success in all aspects.

Guys we just need to hang on till the money starts to flow again. Wildhare will continue to support us on spares and parts but as of right now there is nothing in the pipeline from China. That does not mean the show it over. China wants to sell stuff to us in the worst way and they will do ANYTHING to make that happen.

splais

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did anyone open up the cowl ring in the area of the side moulded-in cowl flaps to allow for a little more engine cooling? If so, did it work out without weakening the cowl? I think I read someplace that it was not recommended to cut the ring if possible.

LBJ

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Pluggin away. Got the retract system pretty much done and pressure tested. It works. Got to tuck away the lines neatly and clean things up a bit. The air tank and retract servo/valve are mounted on plywood and using the nut plates from the factory jig and to make them removable in the future if I need to get to the rudder servo area. Next is to test the main gear and then on to the engine and fuel tank mounting. Won't be long now!