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Old 04-12-2011, 10:18 AM
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Default Rugged P-47

This is a photo Igot today from a friend. I have not seen or read about this one. It's pretty remarkable that it ws able to maintain enough speed to remain airborne.

Any other info on this will be appreciated.

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Old 04-12-2011, 10:29 AM
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Wholy crap! Seems like it wouldn't fly like that. 150 miles is a long way from home too.

WOW...that's one tough plane!


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Old 04-12-2011, 10:36 AM
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there is enough of the blades left, I could see it being able to produce the thrust required to fly. What I cannot beleive especially in my line of work is being able to last 150 miles with that kind of vibration. That kind of vibration is enough to crack shafts and cases.
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:14 AM
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I know it's cliche... but they simply don't build 'em like they used to
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:16 AM
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I bet they had to scrape the hockey out of the pilots seat after he came that close to crashing.
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:59 AM
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I know it's cliche... but they simply don't build 'em like they used to

You not lying about that, most everything made today can`t even hold up to a small mishap much less something that big. I bet if that engine was made today it would have been in pieces 2 seconds after that prop strike.
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Old 04-12-2011, 12:14 PM
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This may sound weird, but if all four prop blades were evenly bent, then there might not have been much vibration to do any extensive damage, the pilot lowered the RPM's and got the Hell back to Base.
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Old 04-12-2011, 01:16 PM
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That photo is insane.

I reckon he had to rev the hell out of it to stay airborne. The outer 25% of a prop does about 90% of the work.
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Old 04-12-2011, 01:18 PM
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Nah, that engine was doing the shakes bad for sure. Just look at that prop, no blade is the same as another plus the hub..yeah I still say they don`t make them like they use to.
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Old 04-12-2011, 01:30 PM
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Not to knock the P-47, but I'm think'n it was bellied in then lifted to swing the the gear down. Looks like damage to the chin also. Curled blades very consistent with a gear up landing. Just my $.02.

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Old 04-12-2011, 02:28 PM
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You can see that the blades are not all evenly bent. I have to believe that everything was vibrating badly, and the engine / prop was very noisy. All his settings for landing would have been irrelevant I would think, as well. Quite a job of pilotage, after a very bad job of ground attack. Although he sure would have gotten the attention of whoever he was attacking.

Can you imagine building that scale prop?
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:46 PM
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almost right. doubt very much it flew at all under its own power. let alone fly 150 miles.
my guess: landed hard, nosed over, then came to a rest. damage to the chin kinda confirms
that for me. though most likely a prop strike. just my opinion/

250+mph strafing run hitting theground like that = not going home anytime soon.

don't get me wrong though... the P-47 was one tuff bird.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:57 PM
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I don't know, I think I believe the caption. An hours flight or less could have been made I think. The R- 2800 and it's mounts were tremendously strong, as was the rest of the Jug. The prop control probably still worked as well. I have seen some very improbable things come out of stories from these battles.

Don't think we can easily dismiss this as exaggerated.
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the 7 ton milk bottle , the toughest fighter EVER built
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the 7 ton milk bottle , the toughest fighter EVER built
Roger That.
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:04 PM
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Wonder if a Mustang could have survived that (Ford vs Chevy)
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:22 PM
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Damage to the chin looks to be from the blades striking it...no dirt or debris in the folds of the metal. Also the blades don't look as bad as most belly-ins under power. the racks under the wings don't have any damage either. No way at least one of them wouldn't have been torn up in a belly in. Neat photo none-the-less.
Weirder things happened in the war.
Saw a photo of a B-17 in the air that had sustained a direct hit from a FW-190 rocket that all but severed the tail near the waist gun windows. Tail was barely still attached by the top spar and a few others. Tail gunner survived and was said to have used one of his .50's as a lever to operate the elevator under instruction from the pilot or some such. Once the plane was back over the channel the crew bailed.
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Wonder if a Mustang could have survived that (Ford vs Chevy)

Mustang pilot would have had the sense to pull up sooner
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What really happened was that all his squadron mates kept say lower, lower ,lower just like they do at the field today....
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:45 PM
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Or he yelled out over the radio " hey ya'll watch this"
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:51 PM
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Hey Gary,
Did you remember to bring the prop home from Toledo? Congrats on the 2nd place finish up there.
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Ok let me weigh in on this one. This dog won't hunt. Here is why.

A plane under power (prop driven) when it has a prop strike the blades bend forward not aft.

This picture is indicitave of a power off belly landing. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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If I am flying at 200+ mph and a blade strikes the ground.. How does it bend forward???
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:23 PM
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I forgot to add. My Dad was over there in Italy during the war with the 8th air force. He worked on propellors and was a B-17 crewmember. Because of him I went into Aviation maintenance. I am an A&P and pilot as well.

I have worked on many prop strikes. This one was not under power guys.

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Old 04-12-2011, 04:26 PM
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If you are flying 200 + or even less than that, if the engine is under power the blaes are pulling the airplane forward. The torque of the engine and the forward thrust of the propellor makes the tips bend forward not aft.

The only time a propellor will bend aft is if it is at idle or power off.

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