RC Warbirds and Warplanes Discuss rc warbirds and warplanes in this forum.

Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Reply
Old 09-29-2012, 06:27 PM
  #326
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Adding to my previous post, my four favorites at the show were the He-111, B-26 Marauder, the FW-109 and the three large Stearmens.

Unfortunately I didn't got a chance to take good photo of the FW-190, and only posted here a photo of one of the Stearmens.

There was a nice Me-109 as well, but it didn't fly while I was there (Centre of last photo)
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Hf99802.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	386.2 KB
ID:	1806188   Click image for larger version

Name:	Gc91205.jpg
Views:	31
Size:	365.3 KB
ID:	1806189   Click image for larger version

Name:	Hm24554.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	366.6 KB
ID:	1806190   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ib83123.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	383.9 KB
ID:	1806191   Click image for larger version

Name:	Zk69681.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	455.1 KB
ID:	1806192   Click image for larger version

Name:	Fw27625.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	431.5 KB
ID:	1806193   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ay73706.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	348.6 KB
ID:	1806194  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2012, 09:07 PM
  #327
JGrc
 
JGrc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,457
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Good to hear that you made it Erans. I will make it next year.

JG
JGrc is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2012, 04:59 AM
  #328
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Today I was working on mating the wing with the fuselage.
First Imade some cuts to the fuselage to accept the wing flaps/slats servos, and clearance for the other servo leads.
Ifound out that the back of the wing is few millimetres too narrow, probably due to the increased dihedral, so I sanded the fuselage to accept the wing

Now the wing sits where it should, I just have to relocate few servo leads which I have exiting next to the flaps/slats servo and will cause problem when I will add the fibreglass part on the "top" side of the wing that help it blend with the fuselage. (this is what can be seen in the picture showing servo lead squeezed between the wing and the fuselage)

Eran
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Ay74966.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	98.4 KB
ID:	1812966   Click image for larger version

Name:	Je98702.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	87.5 KB
ID:	1812967   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ns44059.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	78.6 KB
ID:	1812968   Click image for larger version

Name:	Mf96143.jpg
Views:	16
Size:	77.7 KB
ID:	1812969   Click image for larger version

Name:	Co80556.jpg
Views:	21
Size:	59.1 KB
ID:	1812970   Click image for larger version

Name:	Hy35564.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	58.2 KB
ID:	1812971   Click image for larger version

Name:	Zc61760.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	130.3 KB
ID:	1812972   Click image for larger version

Name:	Mk37145.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	101.1 KB
ID:	1812973  

erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2012, 05:17 AM
  #329
glazier808
 
glazier808's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Honolulu , HI
Posts: 3,985
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Erans

You can cut away more of the fuse where it meets the wing if you need more room as well. It's looking like an airplane now!

Casey
glazier808 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2012, 05:32 AM
  #330
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Casey

I was not sure how far I can cut before I harm the strength of the fuselage. I may need to clear a bit more just to make life easier when assembling at the airfield.
Iwas quite upbeat looking at it with the wing on. Then, reality sank on the amount of work still to be done...
On personal note, I am very excited to see you back building the Me-109.

Ihave just ordered my first airbrush and compressor. Imay have time during Christmas to learn how to use it.
This will allow me to progress with the cockpit when I do not feel like building.

Eran
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2012, 01:04 PM
  #331
JGrc
 
JGrc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,457
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Erans,

everythng is easier from this point on, you have an airplane already!



JG
JGrc is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 05:30 AM
  #332
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Jose - You should know by now that nothing is easy with my build
Everything I touch I manage to ruin or just make it difficult.
One question I had for you if you don't mind, did you glued the fibreglass shape holding the wing LE in the fuselage grooves, to the wing? (in the photos below you can see the part I am talking about between the wing and the fuselage)

Today I got the wing dowels fitted and cut the holes to hold the wing in place.
This should have been 10 minutes job once the dowels glued in place, but took me 1.5 hours to complete
Ihave a bit of a gap between the fairing and the wing (the photo taken with the aeroplane inverted). I am not sure it bothers me too much.
Ialso enlarged the cut in the bottom of the fuselage, which helps with managing the servo leads.

Eran

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Sp45131.jpg
Views:	17
Size:	122.8 KB
ID:	1814119   Click image for larger version

Name:	Gc91037.jpg
Views:	17
Size:	58.9 KB
ID:	1814120   Click image for larger version

Name:	In26382.jpg
Views:	15
Size:	91.5 KB
ID:	1814121   Click image for larger version

Name:	Fy72643.jpg
Views:	17
Size:	61.4 KB
ID:	1814122   Click image for larger version

Name:	Mx22200.jpg
Views:	14
Size:	67.4 KB
ID:	1814123   Click image for larger version

Name:	Qh65891.jpg
Views:	12
Size:	85.9 KB
ID:	1814124   Click image for larger version

Name:	Wy48801.jpg
Views:	18
Size:	104.9 KB
ID:	1814125   Click image for larger version

Name:	Fe14436.jpg
Views:	12
Size:	102.6 KB
ID:	1814126  

erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 12:18 PM
  #333
JGrc
 
JGrc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,457
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Yes Eran, the front wing fairing is glued to the wing.
JG
JGrc is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 05:36 AM
  #334
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Thank you Jose, as per your comment I glued the front wing fairing to the wing today.
Ihad to sand the back of the "teeth" to be able to fit *** in place when the radiator (engine cover) is in place.
After a bit of trial and error I think I got it just right.

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Us54903.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	79.9 KB
ID:	1814901   Click image for larger version

Name:	Xs58314.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	124.0 KB
ID:	1814902  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 08:03 PM
  #335
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Some progress this morning.
Imade a bracket for the wing mounting by laminating plywood and with the wing joining almost complete, I got my attention back to the fuselage.
I was trying to come up with some sort of shock absorbing idea for the tail wheel.
A long time ago Jose mentioned using rubber for it.
Igot some bicycle tube and cut couple of pieces to be inserted between the wood bracket and the landing gear.

Jose - Is this what you had in mind?

Eran
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Bz79020.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	127.4 KB
ID:	1815135   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ni22882.jpg
Views:	30
Size:	105.7 KB
ID:	1815136   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ot48904.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	59.6 KB
ID:	1815137   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sm27898.jpg
Views:	21
Size:	73.8 KB
ID:	1815138   Click image for larger version

Name:	Jv14456.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	114.5 KB
ID:	1815139   Click image for larger version

Name:	Bs14597.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	81.8 KB
ID:	1815140  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 10:00 PM
  #336
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

The wing mounting bracket reinforced with epoxy mixed with fibreglass.
Ialso added a photo of the front wing fairing after removing the masking tapes
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Us53655.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	68.3 KB
ID:	1815170   Click image for larger version

Name:	Yt60943.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	100.3 KB
ID:	1815171  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 10:28 PM
  #337
JGrc
 
JGrc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,457
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Yes, I use small rubber grommets but your system is as good. I only use two bolts though, the bottom ones, since the top two don't really do anything and they are hard to reach when you need remove the system to fix something in the tail retract.

JG
JGrc is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2012, 03:44 AM
  #338
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Iassembled the tail wheel this afternoon.
I took Jose's advice and used only the bottom screws.
The rubber is doing better job then I expected.

Eran
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Ay75461.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	82.3 KB
ID:	1816405   Click image for larger version

Name:	Zu64371.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	73.0 KB
ID:	1816406   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ty65023.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	51.6 KB
ID:	1816407   Click image for larger version

Name:	Mg97166.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	38.1 KB
ID:	1816408   Click image for larger version

Name:	Gr93060.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	62.8 KB
ID:	1816409   Click image for larger version

Name:	Fv25634.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	56.0 KB
ID:	1816410  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 03:48 AM
  #339
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

On Friday I received my airbrushing equipment. Now Ineed someone to show me where Ican buy talent to use it.
The other thing that happened on Friday was that my daughter tripped and fell over the Me-109 wing that was laying on the living room floor (Iam running out of space).
Testimony to its strength, nothing seems to be broken.

Yesterday I installed the elevators. To insert the c-pin into place I used the method you see in the photo, it worked quite well.

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Xv63867.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	168.1 KB
ID:	1817471   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ni23728.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	80.4 KB
ID:	1817472   Click image for larger version

Name:	Af89189.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	76.8 KB
ID:	1817473   Click image for larger version

Name:	Wq42285.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	103.4 KB
ID:	1817474  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 06:09 AM
  #340
glazier808
 
glazier808's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Honolulu , HI
Posts: 3,985
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Looking good erans. Yep that wing is strong for sure. Fliteskin makes it light and strong...I can't say enough about how nice it is to work with and how nice your project looks after using it.

Casey


I'm hoping to get paint on mine by next week....
glazier808 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2012, 05:30 AM
  #341
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Not much to show at the moment. Since I glued my elevator I was looking for Carbon Fibre pushrod ends for the elevator pushrod (need 4-40 thread).
So far no much success... Ifound these (see picture) on one online shop, but the shipment was unreasonably high for $15 product (pack of 10) as they will not ship "standard" airmail.

In the mean time, Isanded the fuselage a bit where the moulds mated, and had first look where formers F2 and F4 should be glued.
My problem is that Iwould like to have access to the servos behind the cockpit (rudder and elevator), so I try to find a way to have the cockpit removable.
Didn't figure it out yet...

Ialso made from Fliteskin the "back of cockpit" widening (photo will follow in my next post) to 40mm from the back, but the more I looked into it I may make it from balsa instead.

Eran
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Pn37752.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	58.8 KB
ID:	1818793  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2012, 02:58 AM
  #342
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

I finally bought pushrod ends for CF rods, just to find out that the local hobby shop didn't have any with the correct internal diameter.
Eventually I bought the rods online and Iam back in business.

Below Iposted the photo of the back of the cockpit filled to 40mm from the back, now done in balsa.

Ialso show the CF rod link setup.
I am yet to do the servo side, because I need to know where the servo will be located to cut to the correct length.

Before Ican do that, I have to fit the rudder servo (which have to be in the centre for the pull-pull).
Being behind the cockpit, Ineeded to mount it in a way which will allow me to remove it for servicing.
Access with a screw-driver will not be an option, so I am looking at 2/56 socket head screw and lock-nut setup which I will be able to access with Allen L-wrench (in the photos still with standard servo screws)
Ialso fabricated mounting bracket which will have large surface area with the fuselage and the spruce beams.
Iam not sure yet that this is the final configuration, but this was the only idea I could come with today.

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Zx70574.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	78.9 KB
ID:	1821130   Click image for larger version

Name:	Bw72139.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	103.4 KB
ID:	1821131   Click image for larger version

Name:	Zf87964.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	88.1 KB
ID:	1821132   Click image for larger version

Name:	Pj18625.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	130.8 KB
ID:	1821133   Click image for larger version

Name:	Pb35635.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	127.3 KB
ID:	1821134   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ul80381.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	96.8 KB
ID:	1821135   Click image for larger version

Name:	Uw43756.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	41.8 KB
ID:	1821136   Click image for larger version

Name:	Xv75490.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	107.3 KB
ID:	1821137  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Vt28232.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	89.7 KB
ID:	1821138  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 05:02 AM
  #343
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

My latest take on the rudder servo - now mounted using 2-56 socket head cap screws and matching blind nuts.
Ialso replaced the "fancy" servo arm with one I got originally with my Great Planes SU-31.
I didn't have the metric screws required for the swivel ball link, and could not be bothered with the wait to get them.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Qo38864.jpg
Views:	18
Size:	103.6 KB
ID:	1822945   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sn42275.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	114.6 KB
ID:	1822946  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 09:24 AM
  #344
JGrc
 
JGrc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,457
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Erans,

thanks for the updates. Qustion: why a servo arm so large?

JG
JGrc is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 03:21 PM
  #345
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Jose - Thank you for not giving up following this build. Due to work and other interruptions Idon't get to build in any meaningful pace.

The servo arm is what Ihad, no particular reason...
The other heavy duty arms Ihad looked too short, but maybe when actually installed I will find that they are sufficient.
I may connect the tail wheel to the outer points to have better ground handling, and have the rudder on the inside holes.

At the moment, my main problem is the fact that ideally both rudder and elevator servos will be at the centre.
To achieve this I consider mounting them one above the other.
This will, unfortunately, going to make the pull pull set-up (adjusting the tension for tail wheel steering) challenging.

Eran


erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 03:58 PM
  #346
Brad330l
 
Brad330l's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Port Hedland WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 2,198
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Quote:
ORIGINAL: erans

Jose - Thank you for not giving up following this build. Due to work and other interruptions I don't get to build in any meaningful pace.

The servo arm is what I had, no particular reason...
The other heavy duty arms I had looked too short, but maybe when actually installed I will find that they are sufficient.
I may connect the tail wheel to the outer points to have better ground handling, and have the rudder on the inside holes.

At the moment, my main problem is the fact that ideally both rudder and elevator servos will be at the centre.
To achieve this I consider mounting them one above the other.
This will, unfortunately, going to make the pull pull set-up (adjusting the tension for tail wheel steering) challenging.

Eran


Eran, just remember for perfect tension of the pull- pull lines during deflection of the rudder the distance between the lines should be equal on both the servo arm and the rudder control horns. If one set is further out like on a long servo arm and you have a scale (small) rudder arm the non deflecting side of the lines will become slack and could lead to flutter or similar during flight.
Good work mate. I am watching too.

Brad
Brad330l is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 07:34 PM
  #347
JGrc
 
JGrc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,457
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Erans,
The elevator servo does not have to be in the dead center, save yourself some grief. It's important to get easy access to the servos.

I'll keep on watching the build...

JG
JGrc is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 04:58 AM
  #348
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Brad3301, Jose, thank you for the kind advice. I found smaller arm and may try it first.
Ialso re-consider the location (again) and looking at placing it under the cockpit (above the wing). This will provide much better access.

To take my mind from the frustration of dealing with the rudder servo, and since I will probably need to complete the cockpit before I install the servo in the new location anyway, Idecided to assemble the instrument panel.
This is an amazing piece of kit (provided as an extra for this aeroplane), top notch. It does take time to put it together, but it will really dress up the cockpit.

Eran


Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Zx69982.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	73.5 KB
ID:	1824064   Click image for larger version

Name:	Lg15989.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	116.7 KB
ID:	1824065   Click image for larger version

Name:	Va72727.jpg
Views:	21
Size:	96.7 KB
ID:	1824066  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 05:41 AM
  #349
glazier808
 
glazier808's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Honolulu , HI
Posts: 3,985
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Looking good erans....I'm stuck waiting for good weather to paint mine. If all else fails I will use a heater in the shop.

I put my rudder servo just behind the cockpit area.

Casey
glazier808 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2012, 01:34 AM
  #350
erans
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Perth WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 560
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Another Fliteskin ME 109 build thread

Casey - how do you access the rudder servo in this location? Any chance of good quality photo/s showing this arrangement?
Ithink Iwill be able to get away with the servo under the cockpit (which will be the easiest solution), but first I have to finish the cockpit...

So, this is what Iam working on. I finished the front instrument panel, which is stunning (to my standards anyway).
Now Istart planning for the full cockpit. Imade a "floor" 20cmX16cm, and started trimming the parts that came in the cockpit "kit".

If anyone have some measurements as to how far from the front (or the back) of the seat the front instrument panel should be, it will be highly appreciated.
I think, from the back of the seat it is ~18cm, so any confirmation will be great.
Also, how wide is the cockpit at the bottom (side wall to side wall)? I think it is around 15.5cm, but would like to confirm.

Eran

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	By76634.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	86.0 KB
ID:	1825451   Click image for larger version

Name:	Cx74808.jpg
Views:	21
Size:	91.2 KB
ID:	1825452   Click image for larger version

Name:	Lq37290.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	83.1 KB
ID:	1825453   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ey71422.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	49.3 KB
ID:	1825454   Click image for larger version

Name:	Lw21015.jpg
Views:	18
Size:	91.6 KB
ID:	1825455  
erans is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:05 AM.