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Old 11-27-2013, 08:12 AM
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Sounds like my Ki-45. Done since August, but no time to get it up before the cold set in.

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Originally Posted by samparfitt
comparf F4U.

Drool. I finally got my CARF Extra 330L ready for its maiden, but again, no time. I did do a taxi test, found that castering the tail wheel on grass is a no-no, and busted my nice big prop on a hidden object in the ground in the process. Found some springs to tie the tail wheel to the rudder, but haven't finished balancing the replacement prop.
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Originally Posted by F4u5
Sounds like my Ki-45. Done since August, but no time to get it up before the cold set in.

JQ
It looks like, that time is the biggest enemy of many modellers.
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Originally Posted by Prekin
It looks like, that time is the biggest enemy of many modellers.
Indeed.....
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Sam-

Here's an FYI. Just saw these posted on You Tube.

http://youtu.be/M9_kJVKHqr4
Old 12-07-2013, 01:42 AM
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Tevans,
For anyone building this plane, it's good to know that century jet also has gear since the robart set is not always easy to get.
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Sam,

first of all congratulations to your project and your great documentations. I just got in together with my father. He's gonna build it and I'm responsible for all the equipment.... So funny enough that Bruce Sanders' youtube video made it to your thread. It's the gear he built for me. I insisted to get the electric retract so he built the controller incl. door sequencer. I can't wait to get the plane into the sky. Still haven't decided about the engine...

Have you already had some flights with the DLE55s? How is your experience with that engine? Is it reliable and powerful enough for this bird?

Regards from Germany

Peter

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Old 12-12-2013, 02:34 PM
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Sam,

can you tell me what's your final weight with the DLE55's?

Thx
Peter
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Peter,
These DLE55's are my first experience with this manufacturer. I bought them because 1) over the last few years, I have talked to other pilots that think they are great and 2) they came out with rear exhaust engines. Since the plans only call for G-38's, the engines should be more than enough power. One nice thing with overpowering is able to use more scale props.
As for weight, I never weigh them: I can't remove the weight after they are built, so I don't worry about it. Although, I would guess around upper 40's lbs, mainly due to all the extra 'stuff' that I added to the plane: ie, clam shell doors, bomb drop, rotating turret, full cockpit detail, etc.
I haven't flown the plane yet: too busy wanting to get lots of flights on my corsair.

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Hi Sam,

Great build. Thanks for taking the time to document it. Curious if you had the B-26 up yet in 2014.

Bill
Old 05-07-2014, 11:51 AM
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Thanks, Bill.
Not likely to get flown this year. Want to get my 110" P-47 finished and flying. It's ready but no time. Maybe next year. It's not going anywhere so, eventually, it'll get flown!
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PM:
I put some Frank Bowman rings in my DLE-55's, rear exhaust. I also got a new gasket set. The ring was easy to replace while the engine was still on the plane. The cylinder head was removed, the new ring added and the cylinder head re-attached, with a new gasket, using the four bolts. If the ring is tight, hard to insert cylinder head or hard to turn over the prop, some 320 grit sand paper slipped once or twice where the ring ends meet should take care of it (Frank's suggestion, not any expertise on my part).
I replaced the left engine ring awhile ago and ran both engines last week: I can't remember the exact RPM difference but it was at least 300 more RPM's with the new ring. After replacing the ring on the right engine, the engine was going to idle when the throttle was advanced. This occurred about three times before the engine finally throttled up. I don't claim to be an engine expert but I was surprised at how fast the new rings made a difference as the right engine was now running at about the same RPM's as the left engine.
The engines are producing around 5800 rpm's on the 20X10 4-blade biela props: not the usual 6600 rpm's that I like but I find the combined power of two engines on a twin exceeds the individual power needed for a single engine plane, plus this plane will only fly in circles with no aerobatics involved.
She's ready for her maiden. Depending on if I get the 110" P-47 ready plus storage room in the trailer, I maybe able to take her south next month to Mac's rally of the eagles and Frank's 12 O'clock high.
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Old 09-15-2014, 04:05 AM
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Sam after a few gallons go through the carb, I bet your going to be real happy with the new rings. Good stuff. Happy landings. Are you going to Fall Classic or Elkhart?
Old 09-15-2014, 05:38 AM
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Doug,
I've got friends at both places so the decision was difficult. I told Chuck that I was at Elkhart last year but will go to Lexington's flyin this year. My Moki may be coming back from TBM, soon, and I'll probably have to sign for it so not sure on what days that I'll be at Lexington.
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Cool we are here already. Come on down when you get down
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Sam, how does your things go on?

I want to buy fibreglass cowls and glazing set for J.B. 1/8 scale B-26. Do you know where to buy these parts?
Old 02-18-2016, 10:24 AM
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Prekin,
If you're speaking about the cowls, screws hold them on from the cowl mounts as seen in the above pictures in post #412.

Should be able to get parts from Jerry at:

http://www.jbplans.com/
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Thanks Sam.

Marauder is a great project and nice bomber. But I´m not sure, if the landig gear is challenge or big complication.
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Prekin,
I think Robart had some extra's about a year ago. I find Robart's large gear sets to be very sturdy and reliable.
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I know this Robart kit, but I prefer the electric servoless retracts. So one of the possibility I´m thinking about is not scale retract. Probably B-25 system.
Any flight experience with 106" B-26?
I see you use DLE-55. Friends with multi engines planes say, that better are less powerful engines, because of asymmetrical thrust during flight with only one engine. For example static thrust of ROTO 35 Vi is 9.5 kg. So the plane up to 19 kg will fly. I think that should be engough for one go around and landing (no climbing).
I know about 118" Ziroli B-25 (19.6 kg) with two ROTO 35. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH-KV_ltyAI
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Prekin,
The B-26 retracts almost go vertically straight up versus the B-25 that go backward so that will have to be compensated for if B-26 retracts are not used.

Nice looking B-25 in the video.

Here's my thread on the building the B-25.
Should be some videos in there.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-w...tchell-22.html
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I know, that B-26 retracts almost go vertically straight up. This is the reasion why I talked about not scale retracts.
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Well after only 4 years, I'm finally going to fly the B-26 at Dino's memorial flyin in Georgia, next week!
I had some 4 blade 19X10 props but only getting 5800 rpm;s on the DLE-55's so I switched to some Xoar 3 blade 20X10's getting 6600 rpm's, which I'm more comfortable with. After a few flights, if there seems to be enough power, I'll switch back to the 4 bladers.

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Old 10-30-2016, 05:56 AM
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Thats a beauty, Maybe I will see it up at the Owatonna fly next year
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What a beautiful plane. Well done. Blue skies.


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