Evolution 7 cylinder 260cc radial engine - Operation and maintenance
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Evolution 7 cylinder 260cc radial engine - Operation and maintenance
Hi all Evolution engine users.
I am fortunate to have been given the opportunity to test and demo the new Evolution 260cc radial engine on behalf of Horizon Hobby. I hope that you will follow with interest the process I am about to go through and that I will be able to share tips/techniques and learning with you as the "adventure" unfolds! My initial challenge is to have the engine fully installed, tested and ready to go for the 2011 Monster Planes Event in Florida in October.
Although I have a wealth of experience with glow and gas engines and have run other radials in the past(running and repair)this is my first experience of the Evolution 7 .
To date I have installed and bench-run the engine, it creates quite a stir each time we fire her up. The initial test data has been very positive.
Here is a video we did just showing the initial running of the engine. I,m pleased to say that the engine started on the second flick on the very first run and has maintained this characteristic.
Remember this is a review engine and the whole idea is to run it and learn its habits so that all future users can benefit from it
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ0CKf9Wtxg[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZIbBZ7kr04[/youtube]
Steve Thomas
Bob,s Hobby Center - Orlando
Xoarprops.com
Justmodel props.com
Falconpropellers.com
I am fortunate to have been given the opportunity to test and demo the new Evolution 260cc radial engine on behalf of Horizon Hobby. I hope that you will follow with interest the process I am about to go through and that I will be able to share tips/techniques and learning with you as the "adventure" unfolds! My initial challenge is to have the engine fully installed, tested and ready to go for the 2011 Monster Planes Event in Florida in October.
Although I have a wealth of experience with glow and gas engines and have run other radials in the past(running and repair)this is my first experience of the Evolution 7 .
To date I have installed and bench-run the engine, it creates quite a stir each time we fire her up. The initial test data has been very positive.
Here is a video we did just showing the initial running of the engine. I,m pleased to say that the engine started on the second flick on the very first run and has maintained this characteristic.
Remember this is a review engine and the whole idea is to run it and learn its habits so that all future users can benefit from it
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ0CKf9Wtxg[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZIbBZ7kr04[/youtube]
Steve Thomas
Bob,s Hobby Center - Orlando
Xoarprops.com
Justmodel props.com
Falconpropellers.com
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ORIGINAL: Warbird Man
SWEET!!!
I just wish the 35 and 77cc radials were gas instead of glow.
SWEET!!!
I just wish the 35 and 77cc radials were gas instead of glow.
Don't let that deter you from buying one! I've got the 77cc version and it runs off of 100% methanol and then 1 quart of klotz techno-plate per 5 gallons of methanol. I can fly the plane 3 or 4 times for 9-10 minutes at a time, and it only goes through about 12oz of fuel, and I can use ONE paper-towel at the end of the day to clean the plane. They are very clean and efficient engines.
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Steve, thanks for showcasing this for us. What provisions are there for the exhaust? Looks like it could be a challenge in cowls. The Moki collector ring works so nice for directing exhaust out the bottom.
Any idea on the $$$$ on this baby?
Any idea on the $$$$ on this baby?
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RE: Evolution 7 cylinder 260cc radial engine - Operation and maintenance
HI Gary,
Thanks for your interest.
Yes there is a very nice collector ring but for the initial run we decided not too fit it for(We were too excited). I angled the exhaust stacks at the most convenient angle for bench testing.
I,ll post a pic later on today
Thanks
Thanks for your interest.
Yes there is a very nice collector ring but for the initial run we decided not too fit it for(We were too excited). I angled the exhaust stacks at the most convenient angle for bench testing.
I,ll post a pic later on today
Thanks
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Steve, I believe I saw this engine at Toledo.....is it the old seidel converted to gas? I would love to put this in a big Stearman. Take care my friend.
Jeff
Steve, I believe I saw this engine at Toledo.....is it the old seidel converted to gas? I would love to put this in a big Stearman. Take care my friend.
Jeff
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The Evolution engines are the old Seidel's.. But the larger 260cc is dedicated as a gas engine, not a converted glow. HH website shows $3199 for pricing, which is a nice chunk cheaper than the moki 250
ORIGINAL: F4u5
Steve, I believe I saw this engine at Toledo.....is it the old seidel converted to gas? I would love to put this in a big Stearman. Take care my friend.
Jeff
Steve, I believe I saw this engine at Toledo.....is it the old seidel converted to gas? I would love to put this in a big Stearman. Take care my friend.
Jeff
Roger that on pricing. Thx
Jeff
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Steve,
what a beautiful sounding engine!!! Looks as if there will be lots of radials at M/P this year...I'm bringing a Moki 400 in a 40% Waco.
Looking forward to seeing you again.
Cheers,
Dave.
what a beautiful sounding engine!!! Looks as if there will be lots of radials at M/P this year...I'm bringing a Moki 400 in a 40% Waco.
Looking forward to seeing you again.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Here is a picture of the collector ring.
The price of the engine is $3200 - the ring is an option but I do not have the price.
I could see you with one of these Jeff on a big big biplane
Best wishes
steve
The price of the engine is $3200 - the ring is an option but I do not have the price.
I could see you with one of these Jeff on a big big biplane
Best wishes
steve
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Here is a picture of the collector ring.
The price of the engine is $3200 - the ring is an option but I do not have the price.
I could see you with one of these Jeff on a big big biplane
Best wishes
steve
Here is a picture of the collector ring.
The price of the engine is $3200 - the ring is an option but I do not have the price.
I could see you with one of these Jeff on a big big biplane
Best wishes
steve
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RE: Evolution 7 cylinder 260cc radial engine - Operation and maintenance
Hello Steve, few questions, what is a diameter of propeller?
How strong is Evolution, how much HP?
Is that engine MVVS (Evolution for USA) or some other Evolution?
On which model will you put it for Monster Scale?
Regards from Serbia
Mirce
How strong is Evolution, how much HP?
Is that engine MVVS (Evolution for USA) or some other Evolution?
On which model will you put it for Monster Scale?
Regards from Serbia
Mirce
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RE: Evolution 7 cylinder 260cc radial engine - Operation and maintenance
Where are you guys finding these engines? Have they ever been released? There out of stock everywhere for months.
Do they come with a glow driver system or is that extra?
Is there available collector rings for the 35 and77cc?
Do they come with a glow driver system or is that extra?
Is there available collector rings for the 35 and77cc?
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Where are you guys finding these engines? Have they ever been released? There out of stock everywhere for months.
Do they come with a glow driver system or is that extra?
Is there available collector rings for the 35 and77cc?
Where are you guys finding these engines? Have they ever been released? There out of stock everywhere for months.
Do they come with a glow driver system or is that extra?
Is there available collector rings for the 35 and77cc?
A forum posting for the glow versions of this engine can be found here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10...m.htm#10723075
Pete
Below is a shot of the 35cc engine and collector ring installed in my Seagul 120 size AT6.
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RE: Evolution 7 cylinder 260cc radial engine - Operation and maintenance
It looks like it will fit in the cowl of my P47- I guess I found my powerplant
Jeff , I thought you didn't like radials
Roy
Jeff , I thought you didn't like radials
Roy
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RE: Evolution 7 cylinder 260cc radial engine - Operation and maintenance
7 Cyl 260cc 4 Stroke Gas Radial Engine
Specs
Type: 4 stroke
Displacement: 260cc (15.9 cu. in.)
Bore: 35.7mm (1.41 in.)
Stroke: 37.0mm (1.46 in.)
Cylinders: 7
Total Weight: 14.8 lbs (6.7kg)
Crankshaft Threads: 10 x 1 mm
Prop Range: 2 blade 32 x 12, 32 x 14 , 3 blade 30 x 12
RPM Range: 1000 - 5500
Fuel: Gasoline with 32:1 gas/oil mixture
Mounting Dimensions: Diameter 12.6 in., (32cm), Length 10.6 in., (27cm)
Muffler Type: Straight Pipe, collector ring available with separate purchase
HP: 12.8 hp
Cylinder Type: Ringed
Experience Level: Advanced
Specs
Type: 4 stroke
Displacement: 260cc (15.9 cu. in.)
Bore: 35.7mm (1.41 in.)
Stroke: 37.0mm (1.46 in.)
Cylinders: 7
Total Weight: 14.8 lbs (6.7kg)
Crankshaft Threads: 10 x 1 mm
Prop Range: 2 blade 32 x 12, 32 x 14 , 3 blade 30 x 12
RPM Range: 1000 - 5500
Fuel: Gasoline with 32:1 gas/oil mixture
Mounting Dimensions: Diameter 12.6 in., (32cm), Length 10.6 in., (27cm)
Muffler Type: Straight Pipe, collector ring available with separate purchase
HP: 12.8 hp
Cylinder Type: Ringed
Experience Level: Advanced
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RE: Evolution 7 cylinder 260cc radial engine - Operation and maintenance
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In preparation for purchase and installation, can I get the diameter of the big 7 cylinder gas radial...I'll have to figure out how much to enlarge my Stearman plans.
Jeff
In preparation for purchase and installation, can I get the diameter of the big 7 cylinder gas radial...I'll have to figure out how much to enlarge my Stearman plans.
Jeff
You will need 13 inches. It fits with ease in the LA7 cowl
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RE: Evolution 7 cylinder 260cc radial engine - Operation and maintenance
Sorry Guys,
Here are the pics of the engine being trial fitted into the cowl of the 1/3 scale LA 7.
I hope to have this job completed over the weekend
Steve
Here are the pics of the engine being trial fitted into the cowl of the 1/3 scale LA 7.
I hope to have this job completed over the weekend
Steve
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Sorry Guys,
Here are the pics of the engine being trial fitted into the cowl of the 1/3 scale LA 7.
I hope to have this job completed over the weekend
Steve
Sorry Guys,
Here are the pics of the engine being trial fitted into the cowl of the 1/3 scale LA 7.
I hope to have this job completed over the weekend
Steve
Try some Steel Powder to balance that bird?