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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Shows up good on the model....nice
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Thanks, it took about ten minutes to make. Since I've heard nothing on the fuse gun blisters, I'm debating on if it would be worth me making my own. I've seen a really nice method of doing so on a meister-scale build and I've already figured the tail for making the later "k" version. It would be nice to not have to make these if possible I've yet to decide if I'll even go that route but the plane I favor second to this scheme is a "K" and I'd like to present something other than the stock kit at the field knowing how popular these will be. Maybe the next 109 will be a "k".. I did get two sets of exaust.. and I'm enjoying this thus far.
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Ram E-mail sent...

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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Ram,

    I could be wrong, but I believe alot of the early G models used it too(G2) It was used until the wing blister on the G 6 came out(blister was due to bigger tires)


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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Hum.. Your right, the G-2 and G-3 shows them on an illustration in my aerodetail. But thats it. They also didn't have the fuse bulges so these would be eliminated when building. The G-4 is when the later wheels were used.

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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Actually the G 4 used then too...I have several pics of G4's with the spoked rim...but nothing past the G4 has em...it might offer some more options for subjects tho, as you say, it would eliminate the need for the bulges on the wings.

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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    I actually need to correct what I stated earier. If you did a G2, you wouldn't need the bulges on either the wings, or the upper cowl. The G2 used spoke rims only, with a (650 x 150) tire. The early G4 used a spoked rim, but saw the change over to a larger tire(660mm x 160mm), thus the wing bulge. The G6 switched the machine guns from the MG 17s to the MG 131, thus the upper cowl bulge. The G6 never had spoked rims at all.

    I should also add that the G2 still had a retractable tailwheel, whereas the later G4, and on had the fixed tail.
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    ORIGINAL: n8622t

    you guys are really getting to me...am I going to have to order a set of Glennis wheels[:@] how much would you like for the flite skins galzier and what size is the axle they are make for?
    since you're doing the "Erla" hood, it means that your plane will be a late model G6(or later) the spoked rims wont work for your plane
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Hey Ram how big of tail wheel do we need? Just sitting down to watch Tys cockpit install.....hope to make some cockpit progress
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Not sure just yet. I've been working on my tail modification for the "k" variant. I'll probably enlarge the wheel just a tad from the stock one or what looks good per the size of the plane.
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    I think I was the first to post a video of the ESM Fw-190 Dora that was released after this 109 came out. It took me nearly 4-5 months from when the was released to get it flying and I'm not in any way, shape or form tied/close to any of the distributors...

    The same problem happened on the Fw-190 thread where people expect the average guy at home to fill their needs to see the model fly NOW, but people were being quite a bit ruder about it... the model will fly as soon as the guy who put the money down on this models is ready for it to fly. You want to see it fly sooner? then put the money down yourself and fly it, or harrass the manufacture who released the model. It's not the responsibility of the guys building here to fill ''YOUR'' needs to see it flying or make a sale for someone else. They are sold as ARF's but there is actually an amazing, time consuming amount of work still left to do on these models to get them flying. When you think ARF and low wing 4 channel sports model, you think, should only be a couple of nights work, right? these larger more complex models and require far more work to get done.

    Keep at it guy's. I'm also watching in the background and waiting to see how it goes.

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    Just interested to see how it flies before I consider purchasing one. It's a good marketing tool. Top Flite, Hangar 9 post flying video's after they release there ARFs. Didn't mean to make a mountain out of mole hill or ruffle any feathers. If I came off rude as Dave believes, I apologize.

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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Can I make this a high tail and keep my scheme...PLEASE!! No seriously, just to give you an idea. Found outthe version of choice is actually a G14. when I can afford to buy more parts, I'll get back on this. Still much to do!
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Hey Ram, In case you did'nt know, some late G6's had both the "Erla" hood and the tall tail too, if you're still looking for schemes.(you could use the kit blisters for this)what ever you choose I'm sure it will be a beauty!

    G14s are nice!
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Yeah, I seen that. The problem is finding one that I like Maybe this one. It would save me a few bucks and a lot of headach!
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109


    ORIGINAL: Ramstein44

    Can I make this a high tail and keep my scheme...PLEASE!! No seriously, just to give you an idea. Found outthe version of choice is actually a G14. when I can afford to buy more parts, I'll get back on this. Still much to do!
    AAAAAAAAAH...so thats what you meant by a hi tail[&:] Coool Ram, definitely will be one of a kind I started on the cockpit...basic outline of the canopy is trimmed to fit and going over Tys cockpit install and have measured the opening for the cockpit box. Time to cut and start trimming the kit....here we go
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Let the fun begin!
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Last one. I found this swedish version which has red and white strioes onthe wings that seem pretty interesting.. I wonder how planes which schemes like this lasted?? And my other choice.
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Ram do you have the Squadron Signal #43 "Messerschmitt BF 109G"? It has a few pics of "tall tail's" with the Erla hood, and some profiles in the back that would work also. Let me know if you don"t, and I'll try to scan them and post here for you.

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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    No, I don't, and pictures would be greatly appreciated! I know my rudder looks a little off but from the references I have, there were several versions. The one instarted with was fatter or wider and depending on the one I go with, I can always trim this to the correct version.
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Ram, those are Swiss markings not Swedish and Switzerland maintained its' nuetrality throughout WWII and did have a formidable air force. The 109s were purchased and or traded for the release of pilots or other sensitive aircraft that happened to go down over Swiss borders. Pretty good hi vis though.
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Give me a moment and I'll scan and post what I have...I have some info on the Swiss 109's as well
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    Here ya go Ram, I've tried to include anything that you might find usefull.

    these are from "MESSERSCHMITT BF 109 F, G, AND K" by Jochen Prien and Peter Rodeike
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    sorry RCU is acting up on me....
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109


    ORIGINAL: MANFRED

    Ram, those are Swiss markings not Swedish and Switzerland maintained its' nuetrality throughout WWII and did have a formidable air force. The 109s were purchased and or traded for the release of pilots or other sensitive aircraft that happened to go down over Swiss borders. Pretty good hi vis though.
    Awesome, keep it coming.
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    RE: ESM 50cc ME-109

    These are from the squadron signals #43 "BF 109G" walkaround...

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