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Old 01-08-2012, 10:17 AM
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Glazier, great information. What about color schemes?
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:25 AM
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Here's one last one of G2's, this is all that I have that might interest you, I think...I'll check some more books that I have and see what I can come across, but most of them are either about JG54(GREENHEARTS), or the 109F though I believe.
I'm glad to be of help!.

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Old 01-08-2012, 11:03 AM
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I have found a couple of color period photo's of a G6 and a G14 both with "erla" hood and "tall" tail. I'll post those in a bit as I have to run an errand for the wife.

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Old 01-08-2012, 02:08 PM
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here ya go...(just the lower picture)I'm afraid that may be the extent of what I have on the "tall" tail and "erla" hood 109G's

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my guess is that the last pic is a G6 due to the tail wheel(not a "tall tail"), but I could be incorrect.

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started on Tys cockpit and hatch mounts
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Started on the fuselage,4"swb bellcrank tied to  a swb 3 1/2" double horn with
4-40 turn buckles and ball links. JR 8411 servo 6 volt. Kevlar pull pull and
aeroworks 1 1/4 horns all for rudder only. Found an issue if I may share
with the rudder and elevator system
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Slide both aluminum tubes thru fuse,then invert the plane and strap the main
wing tube to a set of saw horses with the main tube level,I used an incedence
meter.Prop the tail up between the cockpit and rudder so the thrust line is level,
basically will look like inverted level flight.
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Check the elevator wing tube for level,again an incedence meter.Mine was off
2 1/2 degrees. I can move my whole rudder by pulling up and down on the
elevator tube with ease, at least 3-4 degrees either way. While doing this I
payed attention to inside the tail wheel hatch area and noticed the fiberglass
flexing where there should be a rudder post and also on the whole bottom
section of the elevators
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I removed what i would call F7,tailwheel former.Needle nose pliers and
really no effort.Incedence went to 3 degrees.Will fab a new F7,and add
cloth and resin to strenghthen whole rear end.
    sorry so lengthy on this,maybe save flutter or tail gear issues

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Out of curiosity, I placed mine all together all to find out that the diameter of the horizontal stabilizers dowl hole is much larger then the metal dowl. Placement should be interesting. Wouldn't it be nice if these parts were somehow checked for quality prior to packaging! I gues these kits are like a box of chocolate...
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Hey Ram my esm tigercat stabs were the same way.....I wrapped the tubes with masking tape to center the fit and ca the tape....not saying this to be the fix but it worked
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God stuff. I'll give it a go.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:53 AM
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I'm almost to the point of fastening the horizontal stabilizers to the fuse. The alignment dowel holes are drilled and the dowels epoxied into to both stabilizers. What would be the correct incedence position for the stab?




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The manual doesn't mention any so I would assume other then doing it per the manual to just make sure there the same and straight. Worked for me on my Dora. I wouldn't complicate this anymore then I'd have to here.
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Ram I'm ready to start cutting the canopy frames ....what woods and sizes do I need
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Sorry for the delay, I thought I'd have more time with your p40 progression. I used 3/32 for the top portion of the frame that curves. I used .030 styrene to overlap all parts. Light ply, 3/32 is used to reinforce the front of the canopy. The clear plastic is .030. On top and .040 on the sides for strenght. It's rock solid when completed. I have the parts sitting here which do you no good but ready to ship out later today. The temps are traced so cut along the inside
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Sending the specs to your email.
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              Correct incedence would be  0  degrees with the thrust
               line at zero.Just like your other planes,I checked your
               dossier and you have very nice planes. The issue I have 
               with mine is a=a on the main wing tube  but b does not =b on the stab
               and the tailwheel former is not 90 degrees with the thrust line.further
               inspection  found  thin glass moulding allowing to much flexing as well.
               just a heads up for anyone that actually measures  this arf
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Sorry for the delay, I thought I'd have more time with your p40 progression. I used 3/32 for the top portion of the frame that curves. I used .030 styrene to overlap all parts. Light ply, 3/32 is used to reinforce the front of the canopy. The clear plastic is .030. On top and .040 on the sides for strenght. It's rock solid when completed. I have the parts sitting here which do you no good but ready to ship out later today. The temps are traced so cut along the inside
Thanks Ram...Im just waiting for Robart to send the replacement parts for the gear...brand new gear by the way, but she is all ready for the maiden.
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Sweet! I'm considering the ESM version after I get the raiden!but I still want the dornier for my fleet to be complete.
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Thanks Tim,

I'll double check the incedence of the tail feathers and be sure its correct before epoxying them to the airframe.

My assembly progress so far:
The assembly of the cockpit kit is moving along and about ready to paint. Will make a small servo tray for the elevator and rudder servos set low in the fuse so the cockpit floor will clear.
Decided to go with Shinden retracts instead of Sierra (because Lenny had a set ready to go), and they have been shipped and on their way to Texas.
Still no freakin spinner available from ESM here in the states. Grrr
Went to test fit the engine mount cylinder. It took a lot of sanding to get that baby into the fuse.

Still plugging away....

Good luck with your build!


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Sweet! I'm considering the ESM version after I get the raiden!but I still want the dornier for my fleet to be complete.
Yeah Ram that would be a great thread to follow Got some wood rails glued in so maybe get hinges in tomorrow
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