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Old 07-12-2012, 07:28 PM
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Spitfire Mk IX (Spitfire in action #39 squadron/signal)

In 1942 a FW-190A-3 was test flown in England and this test showed the British they were going to need a fighter better than the Mk V. Because it would take to long to put a completely new variant of a Spitfire into production the answer to this need was to modify the earlier Mk Vb Spitfire airframes. These modifications took place at Supermarine at Castle Bromwich as supplies became available.

The first produced was the F model Mk IX and became operational in July of 1942. Initially they used the ( b ) and ( c ) type wings, but later the new ( e ) or “Universal” wing with 4 x 20mm Hispano cannons or 2 cannons and 2 Browning 0.5 inch machine guns which were fitted to later aircraft.

Early production Mk IX Spitfires retained the rounded vertical stabilizer and rudder of the Mk V aircraft.
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Hal,

Could you post some photos of the install for the keleo exhaust?

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Chad,

Thanks for providing me with the detail below. This along with your other combined information is greatly assisting me in my build decision.

I will be posting my thoughts on my build soon, so you and others please comment as needed to help keep me as close to a full scale counterpart subject as possible.

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“4. The CARF airplane is also supplied with the early style elevator counterbalances which, again, were features for the Mk.I, II, V, and XII. All but the earliest of Mk.IX Spitfires had a revised counterbalance as seen on the right in the picture below.”
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Aww ya gotta tell us you have video or going to make some of this monster in the air??!! ) inlines have a sound all there own! I have the ZDZ inline 100 in a P-40. Havent flown it. Yet but OMG what a sound she makes… made a sweet mandrel bent two into one header for it and it has a F-1 indy car sound to it WoW
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The Mk. IX I modeled was MK 732 which still flys and is owned by the RNAF. This is one of the early Mk IX using the earlier wings and stab. There are good photos of this particular Spitfire (as well as a lot of others) in the book Spitfire Flying Legend.

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Here are some update pictures of the Top Flite Spitfire Mk IX build. As you can see I still have lots of work to do. Sitting the left and right wing to the center section. The link that I gave you has been a big help on the wing build. I am going with Robart retract in the wing, but, if you are going with C.J. gear, take a look at his setup. Will sheet the center section tomorrow if I have time. It is so good building again. This is the part of the hobby I love!!
Stay tune for more build update!!
Brotherhood #12 back to the hangar!!!

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brothers,
a few shots of my Carf spitfire....DA-85,keleo exhaust,Down and Locked converted sierra retracts,Flightline graphics
has not had maiden...picture 5 and 7 is the real JH*C BM597 ..notice later stab..
walkarounds available on internet

I had decided there was no way I could build a completely scale MKV so I used features and colors I prefered
and tried to replicate the plane I liked..there were probably MKV's with 6 port exhaust[img][/img]

Nigel Wagstaff of Flightline Graphics scaled all the paint masks and nomenclature to 1.433

Paint is a combination of flat krylon spray,acrylic latex and flat Krylon clear over all.....

teflon tape wrapped around exhaust tubes per Kelvin and auto heat shields

1/4 scale Premier british pilot and 1/4 scale dbalsa cockpit

handmade antenna, Hobby king guns,Robart wheels

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Explane the converted sierra retracts

Hobby king guns?

How is the Dbalsa cockpit interior fit and function?

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David,

Can you explain this photo and provide some installed photos after it was completed?

I am taking notes on cooling and carb air ducting ideas for my DA-85 install.

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Scott,

Thank for the lead on Spitfire Flying Legend.
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Brotherhood Update, we now have 108 in our squadron.

Welcome all!

Spitfire Brotherhood
Start Date: 12-28-2011
Current Date: 07-13-2012
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If you would like to join the Spitfire Brotherhood please send me an e-mail at flightleader@warbirdsoverok.org, send me a PM, e-mail right here from RCU, or just make your request on this thread. I will track and assign you a number. Who knows, maybe in the future we can have some squadron shirts and/or hats made.

Never can tell when you may run into another Spitfire Brother somewhere, so join now.
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ASanders,

How are things going on your Spitfire and how much time in service do you have on it now?
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A while ago I started to build a 1/6 scale spitfire which I intended to finish like the prototype K 5054. To accomplish this I have an almost complete set of Vickers-Supermarine plans of an actual Mk I spitfire. I have been somewhat discouraged however by people who have told me that a Mk I model will not fly well because of its short nose and small tailplane (horizontal stab) area. It has been suggested that I lengthen the nose and increase the tailplane area, but then of course its not scale any more. Does anyone have any input (solution) on this?
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Flyingchef,

Can you give me some guidance on where, or how to fabricate the cannon fairings as you did?

Flyingchef's aircraft below:

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David,

I am merely shooting in the dark here, but I have seen and flown many aircraft that have had short to no nose and small to no tails at all and they flew just fine. I like the idea you have and even thought of it too with the one I have until I discovered the differences. I say build on and prove the others it can be done.

Keep us posted on the progress,

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WARBIRDRCER;
Here are some update pictures of the Top Flite Spitfire Mk IX build. As you can see I still have lots of work to do. Sitting the left and right wing to the center section. The link that I gave you has been a big help on the wing build. I am going with Robart retract in the wing, but, if you are going with C.J. gear, take a look at his setup. Will sheet the center section tomorrow if I have time. It is so good building again. This is the part of the hobby I love!!
Stay tune for more build update!!
Brotherhood #12 back to the hangar!!!

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Sonny,

How is your build coming along?
The build is going great!! The wings are almost done, ( I will post picture later ). The sheeting on the center secton is so thin and very easy to break. Ask me how I know!!! The 1/6 ply flaps skins that came with the kit was so bad out of shape, I had to cut new skins. I am thinking of going with a retract tail wheel, but I can't find info on if the MK IX had them. Like I said, I will post build update pictures.
One quick question, is the Spit you are working on, is a ARF or Kit??? Thanks for the info.
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I just got a Pica 1/5 Spit all built, painted, retracts installed, and even a few servos! Tried to put a ST 4500 in it but settled on a 50cc instead.I'll send some pics. Please sign me up! Thanks!
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A while ago I started to build a 1/6 scale spitfire which I intended to finish like the prototype K 5054. To accomplish this I have an almost complete set of Vickers-Supermarine plans of an actual Mk I spitfire. I have been somewhat discouraged however by people who have told me that a Mk I model will not fly well because of its short nose and small tailplane (horizontal stab) area. It has been suggested that I lengthen the nose and increase the tailplane area, but then of course its not scale any more. Does anyone have any input (solution) on this?
David,

Lots of 1/6 scale models of the Spitfire have flown just fine with scale size tail feathers. The Mick Reeves kit comes immediately to mind as well as the various offerings from Brian Taylor that are just slightly under 1/6 scale. The tail surfaces of a Mk.I Spitfire are no smaller than those of any other Spitfire with the exception of the very late models. The trick with an airplane like the Spitfire which has relatively small tail surfaces and a long tail moment is generally to keep the CG a bit more forward. As for the short nose, it certainly makes things a bit more difficult but is not insurmountable by any means. Once again I will point to the many models of the Mk.I/II Spitfire which have been built and flown from the 69 inch span Brian Taylor plan. It pays to be very dilligent about keeping the tail light and getting as much weight forward as possible. Will a Mk.I Spitfire be more challenging than some other types? Probably. Can it be done and fly well? Absolutely.
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That's one tasty lookin' Spitfire, Flyingchef!

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Flyingchef,

Can you give me some guidance on where, or how to fabricate the cannon fairings as you did?

Flyingchef's aircraft below:

I purchased the hardest dowel at home depot then cut two pieces slightly longer than what I needed for the two canons shrouds. I cut as well two other pieces for the base where the shroud screwed in. The dowel pieces were turned down to the proper diameter and the center hole drilled on my metal lathe(a big mess to clean after words).
I shortened the canon dowel sections to the proper length on the lathe as well to obtain the flattest section so it fits tightly on the base to eliminate any gap possible. Once I was happy with the fit of the base and the canon shroud I went on tapering and finishing the canon shrouds. Some wood sealer, primer were applied then installed on the plane for finishing and painting. the canon ends are turned of aluminum, painted with flat black then glued on the shrouds.
Hope this help!
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Hello Spitfire Brotherhood Just want to say what a great thread. I'm suffering Spitfire info overload. I plan on building the Top Flite Gold edition Mk 9
and plan on making it electric. with electric retracts. Still plotting out which equipment to use. So sign me up. John T.
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hobby king 1/5 spitfire guns....$13 ea...need 2 sets

sierra retracts converted to electric by Down and Locked ....Mitch Stott

I think dbalsa cockpit kit is gonna be ok....using top of wing as cockpit floor....real plane had no floor or wing top in cockpit

spent about two weeks building it

Ziroli spitfire accessories..inner gear doors,rear view mirror,etc.

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WARBIRDRCER;
Here are some update pictures of the Top Flite Spitfire Mk IX build. As you can see I still have lots of work to do. Sitting the left and right wing to the center section. The link that I gave you has been a big help on the wing build. I am going with Robart retract in the wing, but, if you are going with C.J. gear, take a look at his setup. Will sheet the center section tomorrow if I have time. It is so good building again. This is the part of the hobby I love!!
Stay tune for more build update!!
Brotherhood #12 back to the hangar!!!

Sonny
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Sonny,

How is your build coming along?
Here you go, WARBIRDRCER,
As you can see things are moving along. The radiators almost look like the ones in your kit!! Still have to build the bottom flaps and ailerons and add the tips. One thing I am going to be is to mix some 30 min epoxy and thin it with alcohol and paint the center section with it. Like I said before, the sheeting is very thin!! Oh well, taking the weekend to do some flying!!
HAve a great weekend brotherhood!!! I will be back with more build updates!!
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Hello Spitfire Brotherhood Just want to say what a great thread. I'm suffering Spitfire info overload. I plan on building the Top Flite Gold edition Mk 9
and plan on making it electric. with electric retracts. Still plotting out which equipment to use. So sign me up. John T.
John T,
Welcome to the Brotherhood. I am build the Top Flite Spitfire Mk IX right now and its a joy to build.
Again, welcome to the hood!!!
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Just acquired a NIB Kyosho Supermarine Spitfire 50 GP which will go together later this summer. Put me down as a provisional member!

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Larry,

Good to hear from you and welcome. Welcome to the others too.

When in the OKC area be sure to contact me, or just come up and visit one weekend and fly with me at our new field.

Are you still writing for Flying Models?

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