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Old 12-02-2012, 06:16 AM
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Starting a humble little GWS Spit tonight.
When you get airborne let me know and we can fly some formation. [8D]
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My son and i recently bought the Top Flite kits. We were planning to use the Tower suggested retracts. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXES04&P=M
Is this a bad idea? Thanks.
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As usual , it,s up to you . Sometimes a , " not so good lands " need something a little more robust .

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If we are each going to buy a set we may as well get the ones that will hold up the best under all conditions. I would like to say that both of us land perfectly every time but......
What do we need to do to join the Brotherhood? I have watched this thread for a long time but this is both of us first time at building Spitfires.
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If we are each going to buy a set we may as well get the ones that will hold up the best under all conditions. I would like to say that both of us land perfectly every time but......
What do we need to do to join the Brotherhood? I have watched this thread for a long time but this is both of us first time at building Spitfires.
OldScaleGuy;
You just ask in your last post. #1 will be giving you a number very soon. Let me be the first to welcome you to the Brotherhood!!
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Here is my World Models Spitfire. Not exactly best scale but a great flyer. Power 60, 6S 5000, Turnigy Plush 60, 8.25lb AUW. Flies on a 14x14 APC Pattern prop.
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Here is my World Models Spitfire. Not exactly best scale but a great flyer. Power 60, 6S 5000, Turnigy Plush 60, 8.25lb AUW.
I've been looking over that World Models spit...for me, doesn't have to be "very scale", mainly wondering about the Power 60...is that something like a 63-54-250 or more like 63-74-210 ? Is battery access from underneath? Or is canopy the hatch?

Great low pass shot, BTW. Just needs a pilot
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Brotherhood Update, we now have 146 in our squadron.

Welcome all!

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Current Date: 12-04-2012
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If you would like to join the Spitfire Brotherhood please send me a PM, e-mail right here from RCU, or just make your request on this thread. I will track and assign you a number.

Never can tell when you may run into another Spitfire Brother somewhere, so join now.

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OldScaleGuy, Please list your son's RCU User name for the roster.

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I would love to be part of youre brotherhood Spit-Fire group ,..................

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I to could be interested in this electric World Models Spitfire.

Not sure which 60 and battery system is being discussed, but recently I have been testing some 60 and 90 e-Flight’s with e-Flight 80 Amp ESC’s, and e-Flight 6S 5000 mah LiPo battery’s.

Here are the readings from my bench test:

Power 60:
15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 6920 RPM at 36Amps at 22.2 volts
15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 7700 RPM at 45Amps at 25.0 volts
14x9 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 7540 RPM at 43Amps at 23.0 volts

Power 90:
16x8 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 5950 RPM at 40Amps at 23.0 volts
16x10 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 5920 RPM at 37Amps at 23.0 volts

As a comparison, these are pushing the numbers I was getting with a DLE-20 gas.

My first flight was with a TF P-47 ARF at around 9 pounds with the Power 60 with the 15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop. Flight was clean with a scale speed, not overpowered, but not underpowered. The 14x9 should add some speed, but no flights with it yet.

We did decide to move up to the 90 combination for the TF 1/7 P-40 kit built which will be in the 12 pound range. Not airworthy yet, but getting closer.

Bob, Good to hear from you.

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I would love to be part of youre brotherhood Spit-Fire group ,..................

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Hi

Thanks #1 ,....................... it,s always nice to be part of something , and to fly a Spit ,............... is to fly elegance . Nothing flys like a Spit-Fire
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Thanks fella's. My son goes by C.O. (he is a Corrections Officer). I will contact him tomorrow. Got to love the Spitfires!

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Thanks fella's. My son goes by C.O. (he is a Corrections Officer). I will contact him tomorrow. Got to love the Spitfires!

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If anyone is interested, we had shirts made for the brotherhood. I had some extras made, but there are only Short Sleeve Collar in Large and 2XL remaining. I will say, if you wear an XL and would like a loose fit with some extra room the 2XL works fine.

Each shirt is $15.00

One shirt + shipped anywhere in the USA is $21.00
Two + shipping anywhere in the USA is $42.00 because of the larger USPS Flat Rate box.

I was able to ship to Canada for around $8.00, and Australia for $16.00

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Here is my World Models Spitfire. Not exactly best scale but a great flyer. Power 60, 6S 5000, Turnigy Plush 60, 8.25lb AUW.
I've been looking over that World Models spit...for me, doesn't have to be "very scale", mainly wondering about the Power 60...is that something like a 63-54-250 or more like 63-74-210 ? Is battery access from underneath? Or is canopy the hatch?

Great low pass shot, BTW. Just needs a pilot
Thanks Bob - does need a pilot. The motor I refer to is an Eflite Power 60, which falls in the 50-63 classification. A 63-XX is way too much motor for this size plane. This ARF in particular is a true .60 airframe - they warn not to use a bigger engine / motor size. This plane is perfect for a 6S / Power 60 combo. Mine built out at 8.25lb AUW ready to fly.

There is some bashing needed, but not that much. I'll post pics. I cut out a battery hatch, just behind the cowl. As with all Spits, you have to get as much weight up front as possible. The 6S packsits vertically, right behind the firewall. This is one of the rare ARFs where the included mechanical retracts actually work well and are durable. Gear looks a little canted forward, but ground handling is good as a result - pretty hard to nose this one over.
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I to could be interested in this electric World Models Spitfire.

Not sure which 60 and battery system is being discussed, but recently I have been testing some 60 and 90 e-Flight’s with e-Flight 80 Amp ESC’s, and e-Flight 6S 5000 mah LiPo battery’s.

Here are the readings from my bench test:

Power 60:
15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 6920 RPM at 36Amps at 22.2 volts
15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 7700 RPM at 45Amps at 25.0 volts
14x9 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 7540 RPM at 43Amps at 23.0 volts

I'd say you're leaving quite a bit of power on the table there. I am indeed referring to the Eflite Power 60, which I run on 6S in mySpitty. But I have a 14x14 APC pattern prop and itflies this airplane incredibly well.Level speed is 90+ and vertical is unlimited. I havenever been impressed withthe performance of the MAprops with electric. Try those APC patterns - you'll love-em.You can neverhave enoughpitch as far as I am concerned.
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Here's a question for you about the elevator trim on a Parkzone Spitfire IX full size model. I recently purchased on of these and assembled her and proceeded to trim her out. While looking at the elevator, I mechanically set the control rods so that the elevator and the rear stab were perfectly aligned with one another. All other surfaces were also set to align perfectly with their respective surfaces as well, the rudder with vert. stabalizer and ailerons with the main wing. Everything looked perfect. On the maiden, I could only get her up in the air giving full UP elevator. Whenever I let the elevator go to neutral (I thought) the plane would dive, necessitating constant use of UP elevator to keep her in the air. Is there something about a Spitfire and the horizontal stabalizer and elevator that necessitates the rear edge of the elevator be level with the leading edge of the horizontal stabalizer to get the plane to fly without diving? As it looks, if the elevator is flush with the h stab, it is actually in a "DOWN" elevator state.

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I to could be interested in this electric World Models Spitfire.

Not sure which 60 and battery system is being discussed, but recently I have been testing some 60 and 90 e-Flight’s with e-Flight 80 Amp ESC’s, and e-Flight 6S 5000 mah LiPo battery’s.

Here are the readings from my bench test:

Power 60:
15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 6920 RPM at 36Amps at 22.2 volts
15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 7700 RPM at 45Amps at 25.0 volts
14x9 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 7540 RPM at 43Amps at 23.0 volts

I'd say you're leaving quite a bit of power on the table there. I am indeed referring to the Eflite Power 60, which I run on 6S in my Spitty. But I have a 14x14 APC pattern prop and it flies this airplane incredibly well. Level speed is 90+ and vertical is unlimited. I have never been impressed with the performance of the MA props with electric. Try those APC patterns - you'll love-em. You can never have enough pitch as far as I am concerned.
What's the flight time on your setup? All out wouldn't be long, but what about mixed flying? Or do you fly that slow?
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I to could be interested in this electric World Models Spitfire.

Not sure which 60 and battery system is being discussed, but recently I have been testing some 60 and 90 e-Flight’s with e-Flight 80 Amp ESC’s, and e-Flight 6S 5000 mah LiPo battery’s.

Here are the readings from my bench test:

Power 60:
15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 6920 RPM at 36Amps at 22.2 volts
15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 7700 RPM at 45Amps at 25.0 volts
14x9 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 7540 RPM at 43Amps at 23.0 volts

Power 90:
16x8 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 5950 RPM at 40Amps at 23.0 volts
16x10 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 5920 RPM at 37Amps at 23.0 volts

As a comparison, these are pushing the numbers I was getting with a DLE-20 gas.

My first flight was with a TF P-47 ARF at around 9 pounds with the Power 60 with the 15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop. Flight was clean with a scale speed, not overpowered, but not underpowered. The 14x9 should add some speed, but no flights with it yet.

We did decide to move up to the 90 combination for the TF 1/7 P-40 kit built which will be in the 12 pound range. Not airworthy yet, but getting closer.

Bob, Good to hear from you.

How have the flight tests gone with the 60? The last TF P-47 I saw at my field with the recommended setup didn't fair well when it came to vertical.
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What's the flight time on your setup? All out wouldn't be long, but what about mixed flying? Or do you fly that slow?
Timer is set at 8 minutes and the batteries come down about 20% reserve. I fly a mixture of full throttle low passes and slower flying when it is further out on the circuit.The plane is really fast,so Ineed toback off the throttle to keep up with it... full throttle static with this prop is 55A, sobelow what the motor's rating(65A).
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Brothers,
One of my club member use one of these on all his "E" birds, ( see link below ), and he love it I did use this when I was heavy into "E" helicopters!!
http://www.eagletreesystems.com/MicroPower/micro.htm If you take your lab-top to the field, you can down-load the info and see how the system is doing!!
Check it out and see what you think!!
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Thanks for adding me to the list, as my Dad (oldscaleguy) said we both just got Spits and are really excited about building them this winter.
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I to could be interested in this electric World Models Spitfire.

Not sure which 60 and battery system is being discussed, but recently I have been testing some 60 and 90 e-Flight’s with e-Flight 80 Amp ESC’s, and e-Flight 6S 5000 mah LiPo battery’s.

Here are the readings from my bench test:

Power 60:
15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 6920 RPM at 36Amps at 22.2 volts
15x7 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 7700 RPM at 45Amps at 25.0 volts
14x9 3 blade Master Airscrew prop 7540 RPM at 43Amps at 23.0 volts

I'd say you're leaving quite a bit of power on the table there. I am indeed referring to the Eflite Power 60, which I run on 6S in my Spitty. But I have a 14x14 APC pattern prop and it flies this airplane incredibly well. Level speed is 90+ and vertical is unlimited. I have never been impressed with the performance of the MA props with electric. Try those APC patterns - you'll love-em. You can never have enough pitch as far as I am concerned.
You are correct, I ran APC’s on my Pattern ships on the 60 2 Strokes and my YS 4 Strokes, but I sure like the scale look of the MA prop over the APC on Warbirds. I get ribbed all the time about it. I also am running about 10 Amps below max on the speed controls due to the prop selection.

Secondly, the aircraft owner wanted 3 blade props, so I went with the MA’s.

I will test some APC’s on them while I am benching them. It will add to my knowledge because I see some of these in my future too.
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Here's a question for you about the elevator trim on a Parkzone Spitfire IX full size model.
I would suspect a motor thrust issue. I would suspect incidence first, but don't see how that could the the case on a foamie PNP like this one. Other possibility is that the stab is warped. Scale warbirds usually need down elevator as speed goes up, not the other way around.

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