RC Warbirds and Warplanes Discuss rc warbirds and warplanes in this forum.

Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Reply
Old 12-11-2012, 04:44 AM
  #1501
OldScaleGuy
 
OldScaleGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Seymour, IN
Posts: 2,791
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Fella's, i am considering a O.S. 1.08 for the TF Spitfire. It is way too much power but it looks like a decent fit. Jtec is helping with a muffler. We shall see how this works out.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Vs55882.jpg
Views:	34
Size:	205.5 KB
ID:	1828824  
OldScaleGuy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 04:47 AM
  #1502
aerofalcon
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: , VA
Posts: 82
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)


Quote:
ORIGINAL: jet22b

Hey Pert;
I love your ground crews!!!
And the plane too!!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
Thanks, Sonny. My Spitfire and it's "crew" usually draws attention at fly-ins. Sometimes the jeep gets more attention than the plane!
aerofalcon is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 06:19 AM
  #1503
facia
 
facia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, AB, CANADA
Posts: 232
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Sonny,
your Cessna is looking good. Nice build.
Looking forward to some more pictures of your Spitfire build.

OldScaleGuy,
OS 1.08 is a very good engine.
My philosophy = if you have the engine already and the weight and fit is ok for the
plane, then use it.
Too powerfull? Hm...You can always fly at 3/4 throttle
Not enough power? You can't increase 1/4 more throttle
I think it will work very well in your Spitfire.

flyntruk,
thanks for the encouragement.
My son picked up a book about Canadians and Spitfires at the library for me. That has some
real nice drawings of Spits in it. One is a MKII with panel lines and rivet placement.
I will be using it as a guide and update when it's done.

Andreas
facia is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 06:36 AM
  #1504
Warbirdguy
 
Warbirdguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wartrace, TN
Posts: 601
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)


Quote:
ORIGINAL: OldScaleGuy

Fella's, i am considering a O.S. 1.08 for the TF Spitfire. It is way too much power but it looks like a decent fit. Jtec is helping with a muffler. We shall see how this works out.
I go by fit more than horsepower You can always pull back on the throttle!!!!!!

If it fits, you must equipt!

WBG
Warbirdguy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 07:53 AM
  #1505
vasek
 
vasek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Prague, CZECH REPUBLIC
Posts: 4,082
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)


[/quote]


If it fits, you must equipt!

WBG
[/quote]

R U a lawyer by any chance? [X(]
vasek is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 08:07 AM
  #1506
jet22b
 
jet22b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 2,009
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)


Quote:
ORIGINAL: Warbirdguy


Quote:
ORIGINAL: OldScaleGuy

Fella's, i am considering a O.S. 1.08 for the TF Spitfire. It is way too much power but it looks like a decent fit. Jtec is helping with a muffler. We shall see how this works out.
I go by fit more than horsepower You can always pull back on the throttle!!!!!!

If it fits, you must equipt!

WBG
+1!!!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
jet22b is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 08:47 AM
  #1507
jet22b
 
jet22b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 2,009
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

#1;
Here are the pictures wheel well liners that T was talking about in my last post.
You can see the good fit when the gears are up!! I also made covers to go over the gear box. That makes a clean look to the wings and cut down on drag!! I may not go with the wheels paints because I can not get them flush with the wings!![>:] Looking to put an on-board glow system in the bird, but I have to find a place to put it!! For one thing, the fuse is tight on space. I move the main battery pack to the top of the engine box. I will post pictures to show how tight the fuse is. Must be use to all the space that ARF has in the fuse!!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Qo38702.jpg
Views:	30
Size:	71.6 KB
ID:	1828872   Click image for larger version

Name:	Vq52276.jpg
Views:	31
Size:	92.0 KB
ID:	1828873   Click image for larger version

Name:	Uw42636.jpg
Views:	32
Size:	82.5 KB
ID:	1828874   Click image for larger version

Name:	Cb93255.jpg
Views:	30
Size:	75.3 KB
ID:	1828875  
jet22b is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 09:39 AM
  #1508
WARBIRDRCER
Thread Starter
 
WARBIRDRCER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Oklahoma OK
Posts: 1,501
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Facia,

The rivet idea looks great. I may have to try that one day too. I wonder if it would work if a screw was put in the end of a soldering iron.

Brad,

I am happy to hear they made it. I see your wife and mine think alike.

Jet22b,

I see you know your Cessna aircraft. A friend had that plane and I kept calling it a 336 also.

Thanks for the tip on the wheel wells; RPRC and I were discussing the wheel well situation a couple of days ago.

Your build looks like it is coming along fine too. I will post more on ours later.

OldScaleGuy,

The 1.08 looks like a good fit.

Aerofalcon,

I like the ground crew also. A few years ago I and a couple others were going to set up some crews and my wife was laughing at me bidding on GI Joe’s and Joe equipment on e-bay.
WARBIRDRCER is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 10:07 AM
  #1509
OldScaleGuy
 
OldScaleGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Seymour, IN
Posts: 2,791
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Thanks fella's. That left stick is for the throttle too.
As a follow up, Jtec has a muffler that will work. I have one on order and will follow up with how it fits inside the cowl when we get in to the build. C.O. and i are both wanting to get started but being patient at the same time to finish our current projects.
OldScaleGuy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 10:45 AM
  #1510
facia
 
facia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, AB, CANADA
Posts: 232
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Warbirdrcer,

not really. Soldering irons get too hot and will very likely burn through the monokote/covering film.
Only solution to this would be a variostat hooked up to the soldering iron to keep the temp down.

This is what it looks like.
Rather expensive, but I work for a bumper recycling company and we had some of these.
Never use them, as we use hot air to fuse the plastic. Way better hold and faster.

Andreas

Quote:
ORIGINAL: WARBIRDRCER

Facia,

The rivet idea looks great. I may have to try that one day too. I wonder if it would work if a screw was put in the end of a soldering iron.

Brad,

I am happy to hear they made it. I see your wife and mine think alike.

Jet22b,

I see you know your Cessna aircraft. A friend had that plane and I kept calling it a 336 also.

Thanks for the tip on the wheel wells; RPRC and I were discussing the wheel well situation a couple of days ago.

Your build looks like it is coming along fine too. I will post more on ours later.

OldScaleGuy,

The 1.08 looks like a good fit.

Aerofalcon,

I like the ground crew also. A few years ago I and a couple others were going to set up some crews and my wife was laughing at me bidding on GI Joe’s and Joe equipment on e-bay.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Us53847.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	14.6 KB
ID:	1828891  
facia is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 01:16 PM
  #1511
jet22b
 
jet22b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 2,009
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Hi Brothers;
Here are some more pictures of my Top Flite Spitfire build. As I post before, inside the fuse is tight for space. I move the tray that hold the air vale and its servo to just below air tank. The plans call for this tray to go over the main tray. I did not like that set-up. Before anyone say, I put the wings hold down blind nuts on the top block, they are on both side of the block. Don't ask why, I just did!!! Also you can see I have start to work on the cockpit. The radio mast that you see on top of the fuse will be use to run the receiver wire back to the tail!! I know its old school, but, I still love my 72 meg system!!! On the cowl, the two holes are h/s needle, and the fuel dot. The main build is done, but the fun is just starting. Sanding, filling, glass, and paint!!! I have been looking at the Yellow Aircraft Spitfire kit and to tell you the truth, I love it!!!! Anyone want to drop this under my tree??? lol
As the work go on, I will update!!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Us53918.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	87.6 KB
ID:	1828919   Click image for larger version

Name:	Xs57857.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	102.1 KB
ID:	1828920   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ua70732.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	65.7 KB
ID:	1828921   Click image for larger version

Name:	Oi14456.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	57.7 KB
ID:	1828922   Click image for larger version

Name:	Eg78056.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	94.8 KB
ID:	1828923   Click image for larger version

Name:	Om43805.jpg
Views:	30
Size:	85.5 KB
ID:	1828924   Click image for larger version

Name:	Vu30198.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	59.6 KB
ID:	1828925  
jet22b is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 03:20 PM
  #1512
vasek
 
vasek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Prague, CZECH REPUBLIC
Posts: 4,082
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Looks tight in there, good job!
vasek is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 03:53 PM
  #1513
facia
 
facia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, AB, CANADA
Posts: 232
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Hi Sonny,
thanks for the update pictures.
Your were not kidding when you said tight.
That's like a sardine can.

I can see you are making a go of it though. Looking good.

Andreas
facia is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 01:47 PM
  #1514
Mikel-t
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 408
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

I just took possesion of a CMP Spitfire 50. Frankly Im impressed with the fit and finish. My plan is to drop in a Saito 65 which should supply enough low end tork to pull it around in a scale like manor. I would greatly appreciate hearing from others that own this entry level spitty.
Mikel-t is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 02:05 PM
  #1515
TTRotary
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Claremont, CA
Posts: 188
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

There is a big thread on it on the other forum under Glow to Electric Conversions. Consensus is that it flies nicely but builds heavy and lands super-hot. I'd recommend bashing flaps in there. I built the CMP Mustang 50 "53 and had a good outcome, but mine was heavily modded with flaps, more wingspan (built a new center section, and lots of work to reinforce the fuse, which is of uneven build quality. I did a 4S power setup in a bid to keep weight down, and making CG was a real challenge. Once I got it sorted out, it flew well but again was a lead sled. The retract rails will likely need a good bit of work to make them durable.
TTRotary is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 04:00 PM
  #1516
FireBee
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Chesapeake , VA
Posts: 897
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Brad,
I just got off the phone with Paul at Monforton Press about the Spitfire drawings.

His equipment is rather old so the drawings only have indeed been discontinued. They we printed at the same size and scale.

However, all the drawings are in the spitfire book. It is just that they are not all at the same size.
But you could take the book drawings and make the same size. He said his book is very much focused on R/C modelers for all the details.

I asked about shipping to Australia, about $ 40 Canadian for surface and closer to $100 for air. That is just shipping costs.

To order the website has details an he now uses only Paypal. No credit cards.
Hope this helps


,
FireBee is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 04:15 PM
  #1517
FireBee
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Chesapeake , VA
Posts: 897
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Facia,
Looking at the rivets idea you did on the mustang sample, I have two concerns.

1. Appears they are rather large for that size of airplane. I'm sure will figure that part out. The spit had various sizes throughout its fuse and wing.

2. Will the rivets still be visible during hot summer days when the covering has a chance to kinda shrink back?
I had done something similar but not as deep as I used cold screwdriver heads for Phillips and flat screw heads. After a while, the just sorta disappeared. Hopefully you method is more permanent.

R, Mike
FireBee is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 04:37 PM
  #1518
FireBee
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Chesapeake , VA
Posts: 897
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

I'll echo what Phat had on the external stringers from volume 35 "Merlin Powered Spitfires."

http://www.amazon.com/Warbird-Tech-M.../RU5W765CNTL4P
Has the series.

From volume 35, page 35. Under the chapter on Mark V spits:

"Further problems arose with distortion of the upper mainplane skin above the wheel wells. The answer was to fit external strengthening stringers, the work being carried out at a local level for minor distortions whilst transfer to a depot was required for more major repairs. Over stressing for various reasons was also causing some concern.
In some cases, maneuvering caused failure of the starboard tail plane whilst firing of the cannon was causing problems with the oxygen system, which either failed completely or became uncontrollable. In either case it caused problems for the pilot who either became incapacitated or was forced to reduce altitude rapidly"

FireBee is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 04:40 PM
  #1519
FireBee
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Chesapeake , VA
Posts: 897
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Couple shots from this great book.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Jh15475.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	263.3 KB
ID:	1829341   Click image for larger version

Name:	Vq50015.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	262.9 KB
ID:	1829342  
FireBee is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 05:49 PM
  #1520
facia
 
facia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, AB, CANADA
Posts: 232
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Hi Firebee,

thank you for your input.
They do look a bit large. 2.50-3mm diameter at 1/7 scale = 17.5-21mm original diameter. I am wondering what the original diameter on the aircraft was.
I have a few smaller screw heads to try yet, but I would like them to be visable. It's trial and error on my donor fuselage before I go all gung ho.
I have not seen anybody do this on monokote/film yet.

I'll take the old fuslage to work and try a heat lamp in our heat room on it for a while. Let's see what the heat will do to the covering.
I am using heat to press the screw head in, albeit very lightly, so it should not contract too much I hope.
When this is all done the plane will be sprayed with topflite's matt clear finish. That might help as well to keep the shape.

I really appreciate your thoughts on this, as it gives me some ideas to ponder.


Happy flying and building.

Andreas
facia is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 04:07 AM
  #1521
Brad330l
 
Brad330l's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Port Hedland WA, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 2,198
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)


Quote:
ORIGINAL: WARBIRDRCER


Brad,

I am happy to hear they made it. I see your wife and mine think alike.

d Joe equipment on e-bay.
Funny about the wives aren't they gorgeous??
Yes love the shirts, wear them when I'm nice and clean and wearing my 'house shorts'. That really gets her laughing.

Thanks for the info on the drawings and book Mike and getting the price to Australia. It is such a shame that these beautiful drawing are no longer available.

Cheers guys,

Brad
Brad330l is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 03:26 PM
  #1522
Phat Reliant
 
Phat Reliant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
Posts: 192
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

I think that Santa is staging his deliveries, came via Tower Hobbies

Can't wait to tear off the wrapping on Christmas day[8D]

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Ge94561.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	64.2 KB
ID:	1829705  
Phat Reliant is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 04:56 PM
  #1523
jet22b
 
jet22b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 2,009
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Phat,
You are better than me!!! Don't wait, open the box!!! I will not tell your wife. Just say you found it on the top shelf of your work shop and you had to look!!! Or you could open and take a look and tape it back!!! They will never know it was open!!!![>:][>:]
Merry Xmas Brother!!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
jet22b is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 05:01 PM
  #1524
albsurfer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Reseda, CA
Posts: 344
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Phat, I'm jealous!

But then again, I have an Aurora 9 TX coming in the mail ("pre-owned")and two receivers just arrived today! Now I will be able to rig up some accessories and add funtionality!
albsurfer is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 05:28 PM
  #1525
Phat Reliant
 
Phat Reliant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
Posts: 192
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)

Sonny, I tried already and barely escaped the laser beam look.....

albsurfer, now you can add some drop tanks, bombs, and beer barrel bombs for the basin runway target group[X(]

I may, when my wife is at work, open to inspect

John.
Phat Reliant is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:58 AM.