TF FW190 GIANT ARF
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Hi, add my penny's worth . . Did not relish butchering the vertical stabilizer. Looked at it from a different angle 🙄
Having thoughts on 2 ply skids either side of the tail wheel cylinder. Add side support . . ?? Avoid bent pneumatic shaft? Anyone had any ideas on how to not bend the tail gear?
how do I post photos from my gallery?
Having thoughts on 2 ply skids either side of the tail wheel cylinder. Add side support . . ?? Avoid bent pneumatic shaft? Anyone had any ideas on how to not bend the tail gear?
how do I post photos from my gallery?
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To attach photos use "Post Reply" not "Quick Reply" Manage attachments to import photos.
I was able to get the Sierra installed through the bottom without cutting into the vertical stab. Here's a couple photos showing what I did, sorry they're not more detailed, it's what I had. Not sure you'd have any lock stopping the bending by adding support. Just dropping the tail down from any height can bend it. It helped once I put a regulator in the line that only allows 60psi to the tail wheel. Then it compresses instead of bends.
I was able to get the Sierra installed through the bottom without cutting into the vertical stab. Here's a couple photos showing what I did, sorry they're not more detailed, it's what I had. Not sure you'd have any lock stopping the bending by adding support. Just dropping the tail down from any height can bend it. It helped once I put a regulator in the line that only allows 60psi to the tail wheel. Then it compresses instead of bends.
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Thanks Hot Rod Todd, will try to see if I can obtain one locally. Had me thinking . . spring load the mount for tail wheel pneumatic cylinder? Just a weight issue . . .
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Got in a couple flights yesterday.
A friend at the field volunteered to use my video camera and catch some shots of the 190 in the air.
Thanks Clark!
You'll see that I have many less than perfect landings, but none of them are at "ludicrous" speed. No damage to gear or airframe.
A friend at the field volunteered to use my video camera and catch some shots of the 190 in the air.
Thanks Clark!
You'll see that I have many less than perfect landings, but none of them are at "ludicrous" speed. No damage to gear or airframe.
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Hey Tony,
Robart Electric Gear with the mods I mentioned a looong time ago back on pages 74 or 75 of this thread.
I got rid of the stock wheels recently and went to appropriate sized robart wheels.
Also, as a rule, I run a slight bit of toe OUT on all my tail draggers.
If you think about the effect of weight transfer when the plane swerves from one side to the other, toe OUT will tend to be a force that helps to correct and arrest the swerve.
In the case of the 190, which has the mains already angled inboard, it also helps to prevent them from trying to tuck inboard even further under the weight transfer.
The MAIN thing I was trying to show with this video sequence, is that you can have less than perfect landings. BUT if your plane is properly balanced, you can fly it in at lower speeds with FULL control authority. The lower speeds at touchdown will prevent the higher energy transfer that happens when you drive it in at higher speeds.
Also, the plane flies MUCH better, when properly balanced. Not just balanced "nose heavy".
Hey BobH!,
I see we were on the same schedule. I couldn't have done it without you and Clark!
Robart Electric Gear with the mods I mentioned a looong time ago back on pages 74 or 75 of this thread.
I got rid of the stock wheels recently and went to appropriate sized robart wheels.
Also, as a rule, I run a slight bit of toe OUT on all my tail draggers.
If you think about the effect of weight transfer when the plane swerves from one side to the other, toe OUT will tend to be a force that helps to correct and arrest the swerve.
In the case of the 190, which has the mains already angled inboard, it also helps to prevent them from trying to tuck inboard even further under the weight transfer.
The MAIN thing I was trying to show with this video sequence, is that you can have less than perfect landings. BUT if your plane is properly balanced, you can fly it in at lower speeds with FULL control authority. The lower speeds at touchdown will prevent the higher energy transfer that happens when you drive it in at higher speeds.
Also, the plane flies MUCH better, when properly balanced. Not just balanced "nose heavy".
Hey BobH!,
I see we were on the same schedule. I couldn't have done it without you and Clark!
Last edited by Tommy_Gun; 10-23-2017 at 02:14 PM.
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I should have posted these photos a while ago for those who were wondering how difficult it would be changing the wing dihedral to 5 degrees. I found it quite easy to do and I'm very satisfied with the end result. The first photos show the two forward dowel holes re-drilled to their new location. The white paint shows where the original dowel holes were drilled for the stock 2 degrees dihedral. The FW-190 looks much better with the 5 degrees dihedral as is shown in the front view. I have Sierra retracts installed, using the Skyshark LG mounts, that was an easy installation too. As you can see in the two side view photos, the wing sits nicely in the saddle. I also opened up the side dummy exhaust outlets to allow hot air to be expelled from the engine bay to better cool the FG90R3. I also added the three louvers to make it look more realistic.
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that looks much better than the stock dihedrial . here is my FW with the stock wing with sierras. i used the sky shark inserts and i added some hard wood blocks as well to make them bullet proof. i do not have any photos but i expect to tear out the wing section before the mounts will fail. i really like these sierras. they go up and lock and come down and lock EVERY time. why this photo came out upside down is beyond me i tried to invert it but no dice so it is what it is.
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How much weight has anyone added to the nose of the FW-190 to get it to balance ?. I bought one from a friend and have 4 flights on it . it fly's great and is rock solid on landings , but last time i landed it when i picked it up the pin had bent in the lock. I read somewhere that Robart had a problem with that steel pin in earlier models . Mine has lead completely around the eng . box . I' will balance it and make sure it is not to nose heavy .It feels like a ton when I pick it up from the front. . appreciate any answers !
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How much weight has anyone added to the nose of the FW-190 to get it to balance ?. I bought one from a friend and have 4 flights on it . it fly's great and is rock solid on landings , but last time i landed it when i picked it up the pin had bent in the lock. I read somewhere that Robart had a problem with that steel pin in earlier models . Mine has lead completely around the eng . box . I' will balance it and make sure it is not to nose heavy .It feels like a ton when I pick it up from the front. . appreciate any answers !
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How much weight has anyone added to the nose of the FW-190 to get it to balance ?. I bought one from a friend and have 4 flights on it . it fly's great and is rock solid on landings , but last time i landed it when i picked it up the pin had bent in the lock. I read somewhere that Robart had a problem with that steel pin in earlier models . Mine has lead completely around the eng . box . I' will balance it and make sure it is not to nose heavy .It feels like a ton when I pick it up from the front. . appreciate any answers !
See my video above for how mine performs.
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A lot of sound advice and building tips. Still building my FW190 . . . Started the Sierra install and wondering should I plug the wing for correct gear angle or not? Hot Rod has numerous landings and the Sierra retracts hold. Plug, correct digedral and gear angle . . . decisions
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A lot of sound advice and building tips. Still building my FW190 . . . Started the Sierra install and wondering should I plug the wing for correct gear angle or not? Hot Rod has numerous landings and the Sierra retracts hold. Plug, correct digedral and gear angle . . . decisions ����
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That depends if you are willing to accept the TF FW-190 incorrect wing dihedral as is. In my opinion, if one spends the money on Sierra LG, one might as well correct the wing dihedral to match the LG angle. The FW-190 looks much better with the correct dihedral, especially when in a banking turn coming towards you. All the TF aircraft I have owned, I have changed the wing dihedral to what it should be IAW the full size aircraft. It maybe just my way of thinking but I have never ever regretted changing the wing dihedral, especially when fellow club members comment on how much better the model looks.
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#4523
The TF giant Mustang ARF has approximately 2 degrees dihedral. The TF giant Mustang kit has 3 degrees dihedral as shown in the build manual page 16, step 18. The TF giant Mustang wing needs to be at 5 degrees dihedral to be correct.
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Roger