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Old 01-18-2013, 06:40 AM
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Has anybody had an issue with the black fiberglass exhaust parts having cracks? I recieved 2 planes from Tower and both had cracks. I sent the first one back and recieved my replacement today. The one I got today appears to have been repaired and painted. I am pretty surprised Tower sent me this one. I will call them in the morning so I can return this one. Hopefully the third one will be better. Here are a few pictures of the repair.


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Mine was OK and not cracked.
But I am going to put a strip of fiberglass tape inside as it looks like a weak spot that engine vibration could work on.

Sorry to see that problem you have and too bad Tower didn't at least use a flat or satin black to over paint.
Myself, I would touch it up with my brush with some flat paint or sand that gloss stuff off and use a rattle can of flat to repaint the whole thing myself.
But that's me!
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:38 AM
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:39 PM
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I thought about fixing it but I should not have to fix a $700 plane right out of the box.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:52 PM
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I agree with you..I called Tower about you situation and they stated that; all they're going to do is place the item when shipped back in the scratch and dent depending. I think you have room for negotiations here. Save you and them some money depending on how you work it.

But if it were me, I'd just fix it and walk away as it's not that bad.. Somtime it's not worth the stress and you could do worse with the next...
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:07 PM
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I agree with you..I called Tower about you situation and they stated that; all they're going to do is place the item when shipped back in the scratch and dent depending. I think you have room for negotiations here. Save you and them some money depending on how you work it.

But if it were me, I'd just fix it and walk away as it's not that bad.. Somtime it's not worth the stress and you could do worse with the next...
So, would they sell it as a "scratch & dent" @ a reduced cost.

OP sould be able to get some sort of refund.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:26 PM
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I assumed that " scratch and dent" would be cheaper then a undamaged item. Maybe they can sell it him at that cost and refund the difference if that's what he's willing to do. Something Tony will have to negotiate.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:44 PM
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I agree with you..I called Tower about you situation and they stated that; all they're going to do is place the item when shipped back in the scratch and dent depending. I think you have room for negotiations here. Save you and them some money depending on how you work it.

But if it were me, I'd just fix it and walk away as it's not that bad.. Somtime it's not worth the stress and you could do worse with the next...
O'ya I agree with Tony on a $700 ARF. But, that is what it is....A ARF! Not a complete ready to fly plane where no work is required. Some assembly & I guess repairs required. About six years ago on one of my TF Mustangs the UPS man drove in my driveway and told me we had a problem as he knew I built model airplanes. He drug out this Top Flite box that someone had run a fork lift fork clear through. He waited till I opened the box to look inside before sending it back through the system. Would you believe the fork went under the rear of the fusalage and over the top of the wings and never hurt a thing.
So I guess if I get something through the mail system that I can work with, I keep it rather then take a chance I would get something worse. Most of my stuff comes through Tower and they have treated me very well.
I think most of us on this thread have been in the hobby a long time and have started with the 3"X36" balsa wood to make something that flys so, this ARF stuff is pretty good to deal with fixing.

Sr. Telemaster. Sorry I don't have a retract tail wheel on my 190 but something bothers me more then that and it is those big as- ugly black control horns we screw with wood screws to our ele & Rudder. Some day I will srip the plastic covering off a ARF and bury all that stuff in the surface and THEN I will feel like spending the extra money making her pretty.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:16 PM
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I always considered and 'ARF" to be a plane where the basic physical construction was done and completed for you.. No major gluing or assembly, "repairing" required other then the installation of your electronics, engine and the obvious. Anything needing "repairs" in my opinion would be considered.."defective" or damaged goods. I don't recall seeing anywhere in the instruction where it stated " some assembly or repairing required"...

When we get to that stage.. I'll just stick with kits!!
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:19 PM
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ARF does not equal Repair! Assembly and maybe some sanding to get parts to fit correctly due to tight tolerances, but Repair of a broken, damaged or crappy painted item should be replaced....NO Questions Asked!
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something bothers me more then that and it is those big as- ugly black control horns
I agree about those Big Ugly Black Control Horns, I solved this problem, or at least improved the appearance of control Horns, I use the ones Robart Retracts sells, they are gray, usually match the underside of a lot of warbirds, and if not they can be painted to match the covering, I have done this on all my Warbirds with great results.

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something bothers me more then that and it is those big as- ugly black control horns
I agree about those Big Ugly Black Control Horns, I solved this problem, or at least improved the appearance of control Horns, I use the ones Robart Retracts sells, they are gray, usually match the underside of a lot of warbirds, and if not they can be painted to match the covering, I have done this on all my Warbirds with great results.

Nothing a little paint can't fix..
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Does anyone have a lead on a custom wing bag?
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:21 PM
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I am fine doing work on an ARF but I don't think I should be fixing something that was already fixed poorly. Maybe I will call them tomorrow and see if I can work something out with them. I have been dealing with Tower for 20+ years and they have always been fantastic.

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Does anyone have a lead on a custom wing bag?
I bought a Great Wing Bag from www.hobby-pak.com that is made to fit the Top Flite GS Warbird One Piece Wings, I have 2, one for my TF Giant P-40 and one for my TF Giant P-51; the Model to get is 'WBS04; measures 88" Long X 24" Wide; $79.99 http://www.hobby-pak.com/indexmain.htm

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something bothers me more then that and it is those big as- ugly black control horns
I agree about those Big Ugly Black Control Horns, I solved this problem, or at least improved the appearance of control Horns, I use the ones Robart Retracts sells, they are gray, usually match the underside of a lot of warbirds, and if not they can be painted to match the covering, I have done this on all my Warbirds with great results.

A friend painted the black ones and they look good
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dasintex: Thank you.
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Does any one know where I can get a nice slab of lead around 36 ozs?  I am not going to stick on these tiny 1/4 oz weights one by one!!  Thanks.


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Why not build a box and slap some shotgun buckshot or BB's in it with epoxy? Some simple walmart BB's are what I use. The cool thing about this method is that, no one knows that's a weight and the box becomes usable space.[8D]

Here is a pic of one I did for one of the Doras. Just over the muffler it can be seen.
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Does any one know where I can get a nice slab of lead around 36 ozs? I am not going to stick on these tiny 1/4 oz weights one by one!! Thanks.


If there is someplace near you that does stained glass, you can get the scrap pieces of came.
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30oz for $!0 Harbor Fright http://www.harborfreight.com/1-2-hal...hts-67226.html
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No cracks here
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:14 PM
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Thanks for the great ideas, guys!

Ram, right under the engine - great idea. I have these round 6 oz fishing weights that I can glue into the box.

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Sharam I get weights from our tire store and melt them down as I need them. Some times they give me the old ones even though they can sell them back. Sometimes I just use them the way they are as they come in all weights.
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I go to the local tire store and grab a handful of used tire balancing weights. Make a mold out of aluminum foil, surround it with bricks and then melt the lead into it with a propane torch. I then bolt the mass to the engine box. Cheap, but effective.
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I'm sure you guys already know this but make sure you melt lead outside in a well ventilated space: also, always wash your hands after handling it and, especially, keep children away from lead.
Us old farts are already brain dead, so we're safe!
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