ForcesR

That's strange, the DLE 60 twin is 274mm wide, larger than the 272mm ID cowl on the FW-190.

Roger

sparky4lawndart

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The DLE111 and the DLE120 is 255mm from top of head to top of head

dmyers0403

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Plug caps would stick out for sure with the DLE111 but you would have one Helluv a monster "Hang On for the Ride".
EME70 Caps would fit easily and the starter is neat but there is also a starter available for the DLE111. DLE60 or EME70 is a better choice for me. My friend flys a WildHare Hellcat on the 60 with power to spare. Looks like the EME70 has about 1 inch more clearance than the DLE60
CHOICES CHOICE - AIN'T THIS HOBBY FUN

rcguy59

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Go ahead and install it, Sparky. I can't wait to hear how it works out.

jagdpanther9

mike @ mile high rc sad they have a few 70cc twins back in stock. he should be getting his TF FW190 in the next few days so he will fit up a eme 70cc twin when he gets his model........ I have an 85cc sachs dolmar chain saw conversion that is suppose to make over 10hp... I think it will fit.
sparky maybe we could tear it up together =D

rcguy59

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Lets hope the firewall area is up to it. Wow, 10HP? My nipples just got hard.

em925

Hi,

Correct

BJ64

...I think I may have just inadvertently unloaded...

BJ

BearBow

Look back 10-14 pages to how Mirored attached my cowl. 4 screws, easy to access, easy to take on/off and bulletproof. Way better than manual.

BearBow

I actually put the DA 70 in the 190 cowl and I don't think it will fit with caps without a small hole. If just measure max diameters it may appear to fit but the max May not be in the correct location for total clearance. That's all I'm saying. And 1/2 of 3/4" clearance is 3/8", not 7/16".
A DA70 would be cool, just warning it's tight.

BearBow

The HS and LS go out 90deg, so no interference fm the firewall. And I have to agree with others; if you go to the trouble and expense of the Saito 84, don't use the stock exhaust. The difference with the Keleo is stark and we'll worth it.
I'd Also agree in use of the dle111. If that fits, that's a great option. It can't be heavier than the Saito and you need a ton of lead in the nose anyway. Might as we'll be HP vice lead. My Saito install came out with zero extra nose weights at all.

ForcesR

BearBow, the discussion was fitting the EME 70 twin into the FW cowl not the DA70. Yes I did make a mistake in entering the inch measurement of 3/4". It should have read 7/8" which relates 22mm and divided by 2 equals 11mm which is 7/16"

Roger

hpergm

Sorry to break the 2-stroke frenzy; the FG-60 R3 is on without a hitch.

Just 4 holes, no cutting or sawing. The fuz seems to balance just fine - original weight plates still on.

kwik

That is most likely the best engine for this plane.



Just remember to give it enough on the H-needle ! And oil the crankcase before startup.

Lifer

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What prop would you use on this engine?

Also, will you need to cut the cowl for clearance?

hpergm

Thanks Kwik. Engine has already been run, about 3.5lt. Yes, I did put a lot of after-run in the breather before start-up. This one has the Saito gas carb (no Walbro!), so it is the Low needle that plays ball.

More details in the FG-60 R3 thread:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/gas-engines-142/11604077-saito-fg-60r3-2.html#post11930166

Lifer, standard prop for the engine is a 22x10, I use an APC. The motor is not leaned out yet, but it should give out about 6,200-6,400 peak with this prop - about 9 to 11 kg of static thrust (that's 20-24lbs). Since it is smaller in diameter than the FG-84 R3 and even with that one no cowl hacking is required for the FW190, cowl will stay intact!

jagdpanther9

the saito R3 engines are awesome . with the 84cc R3 engine I am sure the nose weights must be removed but is there any tail weight to be added when running the 84cc R3 ? also has anyone here had any experience with the evo 777 radial engine in the Tf190? I found this guy running one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnHBb2MKTog

dasintex

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A lot of posts about different Engine Options for this Plane; the Plane was Built to accomadate the DLE 55, both the Styles. In regards to the 3 Engines that all seem to fit without hacking up the cowl; a comparison of the HP of each engine:

Saito R60 - 4.7HP
DLE 55 - 5.5HP
EME 70 - 7.1HP

It appears theat the Saito may fit the best, but is it enough engine to throw this bird around with authority?

I'm still building my FW190 and havn't got to the Engine, need to see how both the EME70 and Saito R60 fit and Peformance reports; plenty have said the DLE's fly the plane well.

Thanks.

kwik

You forgot the Saito FG-57. Excellent choice too.

jagdpanther9

here's another choice the roto 85cc twin looks like it flys this plane nicely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chTH9x7q9jk

dasintex

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I don't believe this Engine is Available anymore, according to the Horizon Hobby Website.

jagdpanther9

I got an email from mike @ mile high rc. he fit the eme 70cc twin in the cowl and said it looks like it will fit with no problem. later on this week he said he will mount the engine and tell me for sure if it will fit without cutting the cowl.

dasintex

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Any News or Pictures of how well the EME 70 fits in this Plane?

I havn't started the Fuse on my 190, still have time to decide on an Engine, but would like an Engine that can be completly Cowled in without butchering the Cowl.

jagdpanther9

no word. I have sent 3 emails with no response. this is the last response I had,


"Putting the cowl over the uninstalled engine it looks like it will fit just fine. But the sure way tell will be to actually mount it. If the plugs do not clear (I think they will) I will just do an ME8 conversion, that would gain me about 1/2" or 1/4" per side. More to come and feel free to keep on me to mount up this motor"

sooo,
my current project a vintage topflite FW190D9 is nearly complete and I have all but the engine and receiver bought for the TF FW190 so
I too am anxious and really thinking about the eme 60cc with electric start as others have been using it with no problems and great results in the TF FW190. I could get both and if it doesn't fit use the twin in my esm FW190D9 as twins seem to fit with the plug boots being hidden behind the cowl flaps but jeez, one project @ a time and ohh.... the saito 4 strokes... I'm still not sure.

dmyers0403

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Back to re-work on friends Zero with EME70 w/Starter. Cowl is 9-7/8" Diam. as mentioned earlier. Plugs will protrude slightly. Will post pics on cowl cutouts soon but working on top tray and cowl mount brackets now.