TF FW190 GIANT ARF
03-16-2015, 02:50 PM
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i've not ever used flaps on this fw190 for take off... Once you're on the gas, the tail will come up and you can drive the plane with the rudder... I use full flaps at 60degrees (half flaps at 20degrees on windy days) and 20% (or 10% with half flaps) down elevator mixed in... I retrim on the upwind pass for level flight at 1/4 throttle and make a wheels landing everytime... Make sure you have a smidge or toe-out with the tail high so you don't have ground loops...
If you try to three point this bird its likely to ground loop imo...
If you try to three point this bird its likely to ground loop imo...
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03-17-2015, 01:34 AM
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I'm still stuck on landing gear.
I looked at the price of the Robarts (both air and electric), then the Sierra airs.
Ho-lee moley - they cost about as much as the airframe did (and that was already AU$900).
Is there anyone out there that has some sort of scale plans I could use to make my own?
I have a lathe and a milling machine basically sitting here doing nothing.
I realise I would probably be better off forking out for the actuators, but the struts and scissors etc. I could make myself...
BJ
I looked at the price of the Robarts (both air and electric), then the Sierra airs.
Ho-lee moley - they cost about as much as the airframe did (and that was already AU$900).
Is there anyone out there that has some sort of scale plans I could use to make my own?
I have a lathe and a milling machine basically sitting here doing nothing.
I realise I would probably be better off forking out for the actuators, but the struts and scissors etc. I could make myself...
BJ
03-17-2015, 02:39 AM
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Many thanks for your reply Frank - appreciated.
So, I take it there is a nose-up attitude with deployed flaps or you just trim nose down to be on the safe side (i.e. avoid stalls)?
So, I take it there is a nose-up attitude with deployed flaps or you just trim nose down to be on the safe side (i.e. avoid stalls)?
03-17-2015, 06:08 AM
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03-17-2015, 01:54 PM
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Okay.. here's another... but you got to remember there was snow on the ground and I'm from California so my thumbs weren't working... really gusty winds and then totally calm.. My first Warbirds over the Rockies event... we won Best ARF Bash for this Wulf...
https://youtu.be/7I9VCCu19N0
https://youtu.be/7I9VCCu19N0
03-17-2015, 07:41 PM
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zadeda ... Я летал мой Вульфа в спокойных , без ветра дней и имели большие перелеты и плохие приземления .. Я прилетел Эль-Ниньо ветры над 20mph .. На недавнем мероприятии Аризона GUNSMOKE я полетел в порывистым мертвых боковая (очень сложно ) . Самолет делает хорошо в почти любом состоянии , так что это действительно до ваших навыков ... Я думаю, 7 метров в секунду ( 15MPH ), вероятно,самый ветреный я бы в confortably ... не больше, чем это, и я везу мой самолет домой ... lol
03-18-2015, 12:47 AM
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Well, with the wind clearly, I too fly to a wind no more than 6-7 meters per second. Still I want to specify, whether you do program compensation of an elevator when you release flaps? If yes, that how many?
03-18-2015, 06:04 AM
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I don't use flaps in winds over 10MPH (> 4 or 5 meters per second)... Flaps help me slow the plane down and help with Angle of Attack. With a substantial head wind I can fly the plane to the runway and a mains landing without flaps.
I have 20 degrees down elevator mixed in for FULL flaps (~60 degrees)... 10 degrees down elevator for HALF flaps (~20 degrees)... I always re-trim the plane with flaps down for level flight... I don't want the flaps to generate any lift once the wheels are on the deck.
I have 20 degrees down elevator mixed in for FULL flaps (~60 degrees)... 10 degrees down elevator for HALF flaps (~20 degrees)... I always re-trim the plane with flaps down for level flight... I don't want the flaps to generate any lift once the wheels are on the deck.
03-18-2015, 12:12 PM
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Hi all, Has been a long very cold winter here in the north east!! looking forward to the warmer flying weather!
Here is the only Video I have of my Top flite FW-190.Was taken on 10/4/14. Maybe it will pump you guys up for this coming season! it was not the best one I'v had,but its ok..this is the second time out,3rd flight on all new build!
It was a windy,gusty day! it was the only flight of the day for me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50-E897a7bs
Here is the only Video I have of my Top flite FW-190.Was taken on 10/4/14. Maybe it will pump you guys up for this coming season! it was not the best one I'v had,but its ok..this is the second time out,3rd flight on all new build!
It was a windy,gusty day! it was the only flight of the day for me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50-E897a7bs
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03-18-2015, 01:52 PM
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Hello all. The split type flaps work on best if they are deployed a lot more than the normal ones. They work as brakes as well when deployed. See the pictures of the real http://www.austradesecure.com/radsch...ages/FW190.jpg
The landing trim situation has got to do with the weight and balance which IMHO is linked with the landing speed. In tail heavy planes the trim is always "down". If the split type flaps are fully deployed more than 75% in some cases like the spit is almost 90%, the plane should drop airspeed and nose. If the nose is pointing upwards then the plane is either tail heavy or the flaps don't hold the air to work like airbrakes which is a characteristic of this configuration.
Check the real thing
http://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/...paltklappe.jpg
Check the spit also
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...F_VB_BM597.jpg
http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/me...2d35fa4cac.jpg
Happy flying to you all.
The landing trim situation has got to do with the weight and balance which IMHO is linked with the landing speed. In tail heavy planes the trim is always "down". If the split type flaps are fully deployed more than 75% in some cases like the spit is almost 90%, the plane should drop airspeed and nose. If the nose is pointing upwards then the plane is either tail heavy or the flaps don't hold the air to work like airbrakes which is a characteristic of this configuration.
Check the real thing
http://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/...paltklappe.jpg
Check the spit also
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...F_VB_BM597.jpg
http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/me...2d35fa4cac.jpg
Happy flying to you all.
03-18-2015, 02:07 PM
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The landing trim situation has got to do with the weight and balance which IMHO is linked with the landing speed. In tail heavy planes the trim is always "down". If the split type flaps are fully deployed more than 75% in some cases like the spit is almost 90%, the plane should drop airspeed and nose. If the nose is pointing upwards then the plane is either tail heavy or the flaps don't hold the air to work like airbrakes which is a characteristic of this configuration.
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It is a general mistake! On RC models so it is impossible to do! Your model too easy, it doesn't need strong braking. Additional carrying power is necessary at a small speed! At big corners of release, more than 45 degrees, the plane will aspire will stop and will be filled up on a wing (on the console).
The landing trim situation has got to do with the weight and balance which IMHO is linked with the landing speed. In tail heavy planes the trim is always "down". If the split type flaps are fully deployed more than 75% in some cases like the spit is almost 90%, the plane should drop airspeed and nose. If the nose is pointing upwards then the plane is either tail heavy or the flaps don't hold the air to work like airbrakes which is a characteristic of this configuration.
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It is a general mistake! On RC models so it is impossible to do! Your model too easy, it doesn't need strong braking. Additional carrying power is necessary at a small speed! At big corners of release, more than 45 degrees, the plane will aspire will stop and will be filled up on a wing (on the console).
03-18-2015, 02:25 PM
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Dear Zadeda
Maybe you didn't understand my point. Please read what I wrote and come back again. I have not said that if the plane comes with fully deployed flaps you should let the airspeed lower to stall. Sorry but this is not what I have wrote or meant. I fly also 1:1 planes so I know very well how to fly planes. (Without mistakes otherwise I would have bought the nearest farm dear) lol
I will make it simple for you to understand.
When your plane is ballanced correctly, then you do not need to trim it for landing since you control your descent with your powerplant, your engine. If you deploy your high lift devices e.g flaps, and you have correct inputs, then your landing is smooth not overspeed, since the "kangaroo landings" are inevitable if you are coming overspeed. The downtrim doesn't offer better results if you come overspeed since you are prown to noseover at the end of it. The proper landing speed, the proper weight and ballance and the proper flap deployment is what makes the landing scenario a success.
Cheers
Maybe you didn't understand my point. Please read what I wrote and come back again. I have not said that if the plane comes with fully deployed flaps you should let the airspeed lower to stall. Sorry but this is not what I have wrote or meant. I fly also 1:1 planes so I know very well how to fly planes. (Without mistakes otherwise I would have bought the nearest farm dear) lol
I will make it simple for you to understand.
When your plane is ballanced correctly, then you do not need to trim it for landing since you control your descent with your powerplant, your engine. If you deploy your high lift devices e.g flaps, and you have correct inputs, then your landing is smooth not overspeed, since the "kangaroo landings" are inevitable if you are coming overspeed. The downtrim doesn't offer better results if you come overspeed since you are prown to noseover at the end of it. The proper landing speed, the proper weight and ballance and the proper flap deployment is what makes the landing scenario a success.
Cheers
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03-18-2015, 02:58 PM
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And one clip for you dear Zadeda from some parts of one of my flights and a landing in a flooded model airstrip avoiding in landing the ponds of water from the rain that took place 15 minutes before my flight. The model is a Top Flite Giant P-51 Mustang and the powerplant is a US41. Enjoy!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a9_-Uq***II
If the link doesn't play then go to youtube and type search: evanaero johnnie red's mustang
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a9_-Uq***II
If the link doesn't play then go to youtube and type search: evanaero johnnie red's mustang
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03-19-2015, 07:15 AM
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EME-70 Adventure
the eme 70cc twin fits nicely in the TF FW190. as the eme 70cc description said it shares the same foot print as the dle 55-60 eme 55-60 singles and it does. I simply followed the topflite assembly guide . the 70cc twin used the same bolt pattern as the dle 55cc and the same 5 wooden spacers as well. just some very minor trimming to the fire wall for clearance of one of the starter bolts and two of the spacers had to be notched for clearance of an idler gear bolt. very minor no problem minimal time.
there is indeed spare clearance for the plug boots on both sides of the engine. there is 1/4 inch on the right side and 3/8 on the left side. I pulled the weights out of the fire wall so @ this point I'm not sure where the C/G will end up but I'm sure it will be no problem to balance the model.
I am looking forward to the smooth low idle of the twin and of course power. the electric start will save my back/neck when flip starting as I have severe issues.
we will see what problems come up if any.cooling might be an issue, I will use the temp gun when tuning and deal with it other wise she's looking good
there is indeed spare clearance for the plug boots on both sides of the engine. there is 1/4 inch on the right side and 3/8 on the left side. I pulled the weights out of the fire wall so @ this point I'm not sure where the C/G will end up but I'm sure it will be no problem to balance the model.
I am looking forward to the smooth low idle of the twin and of course power. the electric start will save my back/neck when flip starting as I have severe issues.
we will see what problems come up if any.cooling might be an issue, I will use the temp gun when tuning and deal with it other wise she's looking good
03-19-2015, 09:38 AM
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closer.
I have my ignition sorted and I am mounting the optical kill switch in the instrument panel right now.
the electric start is wired,installed and pretty cool. I am using a 1200mah 3s battery and it seems to have all sorts of power.
the fuel tank is ready to be installed I have a dubro quick fill valve that I am debating about.
I want to make access panels function like zadeda did on his twin this might take a day or two.
otherwise the R6014 HS 14 channel receiver is filling up fast. I will post some pics soon.
I have my ignition sorted and I am mounting the optical kill switch in the instrument panel right now.
the electric start is wired,installed and pretty cool. I am using a 1200mah 3s battery and it seems to have all sorts of power.
the fuel tank is ready to be installed I have a dubro quick fill valve that I am debating about.
I want to make access panels function like zadeda did on his twin this might take a day or two.
otherwise the R6014 HS 14 channel receiver is filling up fast. I will post some pics soon.
03-19-2015, 02:01 PM
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A short video of the FW on ts pre maiden engine run ups, sounds angry with the awsome Saito FG-84 and Keleo Exhaust ring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajHL91OjSWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajHL91OjSWY
03-22-2015, 10:28 PM
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And here is the maiden flight of Totto's Fw 190 with Saito FG-84;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72xi...e_gdata_player
I dont know, but something tells me the combination of TF's 190 and the FG-84 must be one of the best ARF combinations you can get nowadays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72xi...e_gdata_player
I dont know, but something tells me the combination of TF's 190 and the FG-84 must be one of the best ARF combinations you can get nowadays.
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